Welcome to the Quilting Board!

Already a member? Login above
loginabove
OR
To post questions, help other quilters and reduce advertising (like the one on your left), join our quilting community. It's free!

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 41

Thread: Mitered corners in binding

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Kansas City, Missouri
    Posts
    946
    Blog Entries
    1
    I am having trouble getting a nice mitered corner in the binding. Every time I always get a little dip in the end of the corner of the miter instead of a nice square corner. What am I doing wrong. I have watched videos and do just like they say but I still get this dip in the corner instead of a nice flat square.

  2. #2
    MTS
    MTS is offline
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    4,301
    Did you watch Sharon Schamber's video's - because, really, they're the ones that count. Here's part 1 of 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PE0Yq9iGlc


    Well, without seeing a picture...

    Was the quilt corner square before you put on the binding?

    Did you stop at a point, as you approached the corner, that was the same measurement as the width of your finished binding? iow, if your binding is going to finish at 1/4", then you need to stop 1/4". If it's going to be 1/2" binding, then 1/2" before.

    Is the fabric for the binding perfectly folded in half?

    Again, without seeing a pic, that's all can suggest about why you've got pagoda corners.

    My guess it's probably got to do with where you stopped before the corner, but I can't say for sure.

  3. #3
    Moderator QuiltnNan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    western NY formerly MN, FL, NC, SC
    Posts
    44,320
    Blog Entries
    45
    IMHO, the binding is too narrow, or just that the binding is being pulled too tightly. The binding has to be wide enough to enclose the bulk at the corner as well. Sometimes I try to reduce the bulk at the corner by trimming away a little bit.

  4. #4
    MTS
    MTS is offline
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    4,301
    And my point is, if it's being done correctly, there should be no need to any "trimming" or "tugging" or "adjusting" of the binding/batting/quilt top.

    So trimming here isn't going to solve the problem on her next quilt - or even her next corner.

    Doing it right isn't any harder than doing it wrong. And that has nothing to do with the quilt police.

    We just need to figure out where the op is having a problem - perhaps is not aware of a technique or method - and advise her accordingly.

  5. #5
    Super Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    1,100
    Not sure what you mean by 'dip'. I didn't have nice corners either. Then discovered that when I folded the fabric after I turned the corner, I was leaving the fold extend just slightly over the edge. That's not a clear description I'm sure, but just make sure everything is lined up perfectly.

  6. #6
    Moderator kathy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    on the Texas Coast
    Posts
    4,050
    if you are using a 3/8" seam to put the binding on, then stop 3/8" before you get to the corner, take the quilt out and turn it around like you're going to sew the next seam when you flip the binding up make sure you have a good SHARP angle, the outside of the binding should be a straight line with the edge of the quilt, when you lay the binding back down on top of the quilt make sure your folded edge is exactly even with the top edge of the quilt, it's better to be 2-3 threads shorter than longer here, put a pin in it to hold it just like you have then sew her down. when you turn it to the back for the final stitching the folds will open opposite each other

  7. #7
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    DeLand, F
    Posts
    237
    Make sure you stop 1/4 " before the end of the side, make a nice triangle , take it out of the machine, make a nice fold over the triangle that is perfectly square with the quilt edge, & don't trim too much of the batting from the corner , leave enough to make it nicely stuffed. Hope that helps!

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Kansas City, Missouri
    Posts
    946
    Blog Entries
    1
    Quote Originally Posted by MTS
    Did you watch Sharon Schamber's video's - because, really, they're the ones that count. Here's part 1 of 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PE0Yq9iGlc


    Well, without seeing a picture...

    Was the quilt corner square before you put on the binding?

    Did you stop at a point, as you approached the corner, that was the same measurement as the width of your finished binding? iow, if your binding is going to finish at 1/4", then you need to stop 1/4". If it's going to be 1/2" binding, then 1/2" before.

    Is the fabric for the binding perfectly folded in half?

    Again, without seeing a pic, that's all can suggest about why you've got pagoda corners.

    My guess it's probably got to do with where you stopped before the corner, but I can't say for sure.
    I have never added pictures so I hope these come through. Here is my problem
    Attached Images Attached Images


  9. #9
    Moderator kathy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    on the Texas Coast
    Posts
    4,050
    it looks like you're pulling too far down when you fold it back to the edged of the quilt

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Alberta, Canada
    Posts
    579
    When you flip the binding up to make the fold , is there a true 45 degree angle? If I get careless, and don't make the fold a true 45 degrees, I get what you get. Also the fold along the top edge needs to be flush with the quilt. I sometimes make sure that the top fold is even a few threads above, which gives a really sharp corner.

    Scroll down to where Holly is talking about the corners and you will see.

    http://fingerlakesart.blogspot.com/2...-tutorial.html

    Good luck

  11. #11
    Super Member Connie in CO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Canon City, Colorado
    Posts
    2,438
    Blog Entries
    2
    I don't see what the big deal is.Take the corner and pinch it in your fingers.Connie in CO

  12. #12
    Senior Member qbquilts's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    800
    What helps me, is when I get to the 1/4" point (assuming a 1/4" seam) where I stop sewing, instead of just stopping, I sew a diagonal line to the corner. Then I lift up my foot and adjust the binding for the next side. Since I've been doing that, it has made all the difference in my corners.

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Alberta, Canada
    Posts
    579
    Quote Originally Posted by Connie in CO
    I don't see what the big deal is.Take the corner and pinch it in your fingers.Connie in CO
    The big deal is that Blackberry's mitred corners are not working the way she would like and she is asking for help in getting them to look the way she wants.

    If the binding is not sewn on a certain way, you can pinch the corners all day long and they won't mitre properly.

    People shouldn't be made to feel like they are making a big deal when they ask for help. :)

  14. #14
    Senior Member barbrdunn's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Brentwood, CA
    Posts
    336
    It looks like you are having trouble with the machine sewing on the top side. Perhaps you are attaching the binding to the back correctly but having trouble turning the corner on the top side. I just posted these pictures on another post, but maybe they will be helpful.

    First I cut my binding 2 1/4 inches and press in half with lots of starch. Wetting with starch before I fold helps the fabric stick to it self before pressing and I can get a good press and a stiff binding. After attaching the binding to the back, then fold the binding to the front and place the edge right on the stitching line. I then use my "stitch in the ditch" foot and move my needle from the center position to the right slightly. That way when I run the guide on the stitching line, it catches both the front and the back of the binding equal distance from the edge. The following pictures show how I turn the corner. Hope this helps.

    After sewing binding to back, fold to front and pin each corner on the stitch line to hold in place
    Name:  Attachment-183929.jpe
Views: 102
Size:  49.0 KB

    I do not pin as I sew the sides, just use fingers to hold the binding on top of the stitch line. When approaching the corner, I then use a stilletto to make a crisp miter as shown
    Name:  Attachment-183933.jpe
Views: 97
Size:  30.3 KB

    When completed, the visible stitch line should be equal from the edge on both sides and the mitered corners should be flat
    Name:  Attachment-183936.jpe
Views: 110
Size:  34.6 KB

    Use the stilletto to hold the corner down as you slowly take your stitching to the fold, then stop with needle down
    Name:  Attachment-183938.jpe
Views: 94
Size:  29.4 KB

    After turning the corner and taking a couple stitches, remove the pin and continue to the next corner
    Name:  Attachment-183944.jpe
Views: 98
Size:  34.9 KB

  15. #15
    Super Member M.I.Late's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Spring, Texas
    Posts
    2,355
    Quote Originally Posted by qbquilts
    What helps me, is when I get to the 1/4" point (assuming a 1/4" seam) where I stop sewing, instead of just stopping, I sew a diagonal line to the corner. Then I lift up my foot and adjust the binding for the next side. Since I've been doing that, it has made all the difference in my corners.
    That's exactly what I do. I don't stop, I veer off into the corner and off of the quilt entirely. When I do my fold, for the miter, I put it all the way up, bring it down (hold a pin where the fold will be and check it for completely square before I start to sew again. I start to sew again 1/4" from the top. You can feel where the needle should start there should be no bulk underneath - if there is, you're too high. Also, looking at your miters, you can see it's trying to round itself out. you're pulling that binding down too far. That's why I use the pin at the edge when I bring it back down. Hope that helps.

    I don't machine stitch the second time around. I put my binding on the front and hand stitch the back down with a blind stitch. But the poster above did a nice job on the machine stitching for the binding. I'm just not that accurate and would probably miss some of the back...

  16. #16
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Sturbridge, Ma
    Posts
    4,014
    it is possible that your seam allowance is not consistent in width as you approach the end of the side. This will cause distorted mitres.
    Also.....as you are approaching the corner, stop about 2 stitches before you get to your 1/4", 1/2" or 3/8" or whatever your width of seam. This will allow for the fold just as the scant 1/4" will allow for fold in piecing.

  17. #17
    Senior Member qbquilts's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    800
    Quote Originally Posted by stewyscrewy
    the professionals also make claims to take a few blind stitches to hold the fabrics tight in the miter when the do the whip stitching on the backs. I did it on my show quilts, and it helps the miter look nice tight and flat on both sides. Use threads that match your bindigs perfectly.
    I always blind stitch the miter on the back. I thought everyone did it, which was why I didn't mention that along with my other suggestion (to sew diagonally to the corner). Thanks for mentioning this tip.

  18. #18
    Senior Member janeknapp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Marion, IA
    Posts
    460
    I press my binding three times. First, press in half before sewing. Next, after sewing warm the seam and then press the binding toward the edge. Last, fold the binding over the edge and press again from the back side.

    I cut the binding two inches wide and can still stitch-in-the-ditch from the front side and catch the binding on the back if so desired. I usually finish the binding by hand stitching, but I stitch-in-the-ditch from the front side for charity quilts.

  19. #19
    Member PattyJean's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    MO
    Posts
    96
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackberry
    I am having trouble getting a nice mitered corner in the binding. Every time I always get a little dip in the end of the corner of the miter instead of a nice square corner. What am I doing wrong. I have watched videos and do just like they say but I still get this dip in the corner instead of a nice flat square.
    I took at binding class at my local quilt shop and she showed us how to use a little tool called a perfect binding miter by Glenna. You can find one at most quilt shops for $5.00. I don't mind mitering binding any more at all, infact enjoy it. Also website www.quiltsnstuff.net

  20. #20
    Marion Jean's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Leland, NC
    Posts
    302
    Quote Originally Posted by qbquilts
    What helps me, is when I get to the 1/4" point (assuming a 1/4" seam) where I stop sewing, instead of just stopping, I sew a diagonal line to the corner. Then I lift up my foot and adjust the binding for the next side. Since I've been doing that, it has made all the difference in my corners.
    This is a great tip - I'm going to try it on my next quilt. Thanks :)

  21. #21
    Super Member moreland's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Manhattan, Kansas
    Posts
    2,167
    Quote Originally Posted by kathy
    if you are using a 3/8" seam to put the binding on, then stop 3/8" before you get to the corner, take the quilt out and turn it around like you're going to sew the next seam when you flip the binding up make sure you have a good SHARP angle, the outside of the binding should be a straight line with the edge of the quilt, when you lay the binding back down on top of the quilt make sure your folded edge is exactly even with the top edge of the quilt, it's better to be 2-3 threads shorter than longer here, put a pin in it to hold it just like you have then sew her down. when you turn it to the back for the final stitching the folds will open opposite each other
    Excellent explanation and when done this way the corners simply "fall" into place.

  22. #22
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    SOUTH LOUISIANA
    Posts
    79
    watch sharon schambers video on you tube If we all use her technique we will be masters!!!

  23. #23
    Junior Member rebeccalr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Watertown, TN
    Posts
    229
    Great pics barbrdunn. I think you aren't sewing far enough to the end and maybe pulling to hard when you make the corner?? Good luck. I think the binding just 'makes' the quilt, so I can understand your frustration. Hang in there. I am sure you will get it!!

  24. #24
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Liberty Hill - Central TEXAS Hill Country
    Posts
    1,056
    Quote Originally Posted by MTS
    Did you watch Sharon Schamber's video's - because, really, they're the ones that count. Here's part 1 of 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PE0Yq9iGlc


    Well, without seeing a picture...

    Was the quilt corner square before you put on the binding?

    Did you stop at a point, as you approached the corner, that was the same measurement as the width of your finished binding? iow, if your binding is going to finish at 1/4", then you need to stop 1/4". If it's going to be 1/2" binding, then 1/2" before.

    Is the fabric for the binding perfectly folded in half?

    Again, without seeing a pic, that's all can suggest about why you've got pagoda corners.

    My guess it's probably got to do with where you stopped before the corner, but I can't say for sure.
    Thanks for sharing that YTube link - haven't watched all of it, but it looks like it will be a great help. Takes you to #2 & 3, as well as other tutorials of hers.

    I bookmarked it in my tutorials - MY FIND OF THE DAY - thanks so much :lol: :thumbup: :lol:

  25. #25
    Rexene's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Richland, MI
    Posts
    256
    Quote Originally Posted by MTS
    Did you watch Sharon Schamber's video's - because, really, they're the ones that count. Here's part 1 of 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PE0Yq9iGlc


    Well, without seeing a picture...

    Was the quilt corner square before you put on the binding?

    Did you stop at a point, as you approached the corner, that was the same measurement as the width of your finished binding? iow, if your binding is going to finish at 1/4", then you need to stop 1/4". If it's going to be 1/2" binding, then 1/2" before.

    Is the fabric for the binding perfectly folded in half?

    Again, without seeing a pic, that's all can suggest about why you've got pagoda corners.

    My guess it's probably got to do with where you stopped before the corner, but I can't say for sure.
    Thank you for providing the link for binding, 1-3 videos. The best I've ever seen!!

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.