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Thread: OK ListenUp, I We need to KNOW HOW to get the wrinkles OUT of the Backing???

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    :cry: OK, Me and others who haven't joined yet but may soon always seem to have the Problem on rumples on the back, I with Machine quilting and others too aND WITH hand quilting. I have a Longarm Quilting System and have used reg. Machine quilting as well others are using a hoop or frame to hand quilt and even when watching with an Eagle eye it still rumples on the Back, we were wondering if we were to use that spray on adhesive glue stuff on front and back to stick to the batting would it help??? Also does the sticky stick to your needle,Anybody know about this stuff?? :?: :? :!:

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    I have used the spray stuff several times hand quilting and plan on using it again! It holds well, is repositionable in case you missed a wrinkle. I didn't have trouble with my needle getting gunky or with it being harder to go through the layers. The first time I used it was the first time I made a quilt with out wrinkles on the back and believe me, I tried hard to avoid them, always to no avail before this magic stuff in a can. I would give it 5 stars, but I don't have that option, so :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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    I have had no problem with the temp. spray adhesive, although I would caution against using with a longarm. Are you saying that you still get pleats sewn into your backs on your longarm system? Is it a three rail system? Maybe you are not snugging your back enough. You must make sure that each rail is slightly taught. If you are getting pleats towards the side of your quiltback, maybe you need to get something to put tension on the sides. We have spring clamps connected to a velcro strip at the shop. These are clamped on the sides, after the rollers are tightened.

    If you are talking about a wrinkled back prior to quilting, and you don't want to take the time to iron, we put a few drops of fabric softener in a spritz bottle along with mostly water. After we pin the back to the rollers, we give it a spray and smooth it out. It is cheaper than the store bought wrinkle releaser on the market.

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    I use the spray when quilting on my regular machine. I love it. It really holds well and doesn't 'gunk up my needle.

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    Gee I thought those wrinkles on the back were just mine so I kept them quiet and never took a picture of the back. I have never used the spray. what if you put a quilt together and it set for months? Only thing I have used is a spot glue and that gets stiff after a while.

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    I have never let it sit for that long, but it is repositionable. I imagine, since it is temp. that it might not stay stuck together for months, but it works for several weeks at least. I use it all the time. Some brands are better than others and I like Sullivans the best, out of the ones I have used.

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    Vicki, do you prefer Sullivan's over Sulky?

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    You aren't supposed to have wrinkles on the back???? Who knew!

    Your framing tension is the key. I do love the spray adhesive, I've used it also for hand and machine quilting. But the "tightest' quilts I've ever made by hand or machine were hand basted and or pinned very tightly and quilted with a frame.

    The other key is to not be in a hurry and check your quilting frequently. Machine quilting has to be done with an even feed foot. (sorry, I meant walking foot) For me anyway, I just can't keep the layers together any other way!

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    I have used the spray often and it does last months with on problems. you do have to smooth it a little from being rolled up.
    Sometimes it gums the needle but I think I spray to heavly. You must use a light hand and spray evenly. I taped my down on the hard floor, if your knees and back can take it. Or you just have to use a billion quilting pins.
    On longarms ,I thought it smoothed out on its own.

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    :?: Why can't you use this stuff in a can with a Longarm system,? The Machine?? or the Rollers??

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    The long arm system depends on rolling the back and top seperately, with the batting floating between the two. Obviously, if they are stuck together or sprayed with a temp. adhesive, this would not be possible.

    When quilting on my home sewing machine, I prepare my quilt sandwich by first clamping the backing with a slight amount of tension, to my cutting table. Usually, the back is wider than my cutting table, so I start in the middle by centering the fabric. After spraying the center of the back, I then center the relaxed batting gently spreading it out flat. I spray again and repeat with the quilt top. At this point, I will remove the binder clamps and move the entire sandwich to one side, where the basted side is clamped and then only the backing part clamped on the open side. Again with slight tension. This does not mean pulling, as when the quilt is unclamped it will attempt to return to original relaxed state. This will create distortion, and trust me you don't want distortion in a basted quilt. I repeat the process for the other unfinished side as well as the ends that were not covered on the first process.

    When hand quilting, I use a thread baste method, because I do not use a hoop or frame. This method allows better control of the layers thru' all the manipulation required with this hand quilt process.

    I share this information as lessons learned through trial and error. They are not meant as rules, as my experience has taught me that in quilting there really are no rules. What works for some doesn't work for others. I was sure I would never be able to hand quilt because I just couldn't get working on a frame or hoop. Out of desperation I took a class in hand quilting in hopes of discovering why I found it so darn hard! You can imagine my surprise at finding the quilting teacher teach without a hoop! For me it was an epiphany. Purely by accident, I found what works for me. Bottom line, try the methods recommended by lots of quilters, until you find what gives YOU the most success. Enjoy yourself, and fondle fabric every chance you get. :D

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    :-) Try this ,I put my Back & Batting on one roller which can be sprayed together then the Top on another. Hey, It works!!

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    :? I'd try the Spray,I got almost stabbed to death with all the pins in mine, Believe me I am gonna try the spray!OhYea'

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    So, if you use the spray you still have to baste or pin, right? I've never tried the spray before.

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    I love Sullivans basting spray! And I hate to admit that I have had a project sitting for almost 2 years :oops: and it is still fine, just the edges seem to have lost their 'stick' but the rest is still holding.

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    :? Ok I do the Longarming but with rolling it in on both sides, ya can do somewhat the same thing, and the spray would hold it down flat temporarily til you got the stitching in there you wanted. :wink:

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    :roll: O, I am wondering can you use the craft spray that says it's for fabrics?? :?

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    :( :?: Ok The spray might work don't really know, But hope it will on the smaller projects but will it work on everything??

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