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Valerie Ann 08-16-2012 10:31 AM

Best Way to Applique and Why?
 
I am at a crossroads and need opinions and reasons. I need to learn to applique and their are so many methods. Raw edge, turn under, disappearing stitches....and on and on. Help! I need to choose one method as I have never done it before. Which and Why? By the way, I wash my quilts. I appreciate your help.

Peckish 08-16-2012 10:42 AM

It's a personal choice. What one person likes, another person will find tedious. I started out doing machine applique because I found it easier and wanted fast results, but lately I've grown to love sitting quietly with my husband in the evenings and doing applique by hand. The process has become more important than the result.

You might want to try each technique individually to see which one suits you. Make some appliqued pillow covers or wall hangings - they don't need to be huge projects.

Peckish 08-16-2012 10:44 AM

Oops - I forgot to add:

Each method has a certain look. If you like the buttonhole stitch look, you can do that both by machine and hand. If you prefer not being able to see the stitches, you will probably like hand applique better than machine.

kristakz 08-16-2012 10:49 AM

I agree with Peckish. It is all personal preference. I've done needle turn and raw edge applique. And note that with raw edge there are a myriad of ways to actually stitch the edges (straight stitch near the edge, buttonhole, zigzag, i'm sure there's more). Personally, I decided after doing one that I don't like raw edge applique at all. And I don't trust it to survive washings - but I have no personal experience there, so don't take my word for it. I prefer the look of well-done needle-turn applique, but not the effort :) So I don't do applique.

bearisgray 08-16-2012 11:08 AM

What - and how - you do it will also depend on who/what the project is for.

I like the look of needleturn applique. The little bit I did of it was enjoyable, even if it took me quite a while to do it. I do recommend going to a class for it - it's easier to understand if it's being demonstrated than by trying to learn from a book.

Applique designs can be very simple and largish (easy to do) - to very complex and tiny (harder to do) - no matter what the method.

Prism99 08-16-2012 11:19 AM

Maybe start with the look you like. My admiration has always been for needle-turn applique.

I took classes in doing needle-turn applique by hand, but discovered my hands are not well-suited to the technique. My needle hand cramps up very quickly because I have an unusually short thumb. It doesn't help that I am developing arthritis in my hands, either!

So, I turned to invisible machine applique. Got Harriet Hargrave's original book on that subject and taught myself. Freezer paper applique is my favorite way to do applique now. It gives the needle-turn look, but my hands don't cramp up. I have even developed some streamlined ways to cut the shapes from freezer paper, and also a streamlined technique for removing the paper from the top. Also figured out how to avoid using stabilizer underneath the background fabric (by heavily starching). Have thought about starting a thread about tips for doing freezer paper applique. Maybe others could start threads about other approaches to applique?

I experimented with fusible applique but did not like the stiffness that most fusibles add. Purchased some Misty Fuse, which does not add stiffness to the fabric, and plan to experiment with it. My biggest problem currently is trying to figure out what machine stitch I want to use with it. Also do not know how the edges will hold up with washings. Satin stitching the edges is not my favorite approach, again because it adds some stiffness to the applique edges. I have seen photos of raw edge applique, but have not actually seen it in person so don't know if I would like the look or not for the home-use quilts I like to make.

Jan in VA 08-16-2012 11:22 AM

There is an older book called "Applique 12 Easy Ways" by Elly Sienkiewicz that covers this subject wonderfully. And you can get it used for less and a dollar here!
http://www.amazon.com/Applique-12-Ea...ys+by+Elly+Sie

Jan in VA

TanyaL 08-16-2012 12:01 PM

Totally what you like the look of. I prefer the look of machine applique with satin stitch or fancy embroidery stitches along the edge of the fabric - the fancier the better. I like to embroider the fabric before it is appliqued and then to use embroidery stitches to apply it. It is attached like iron and could stay if it were applied to a professional football uniform! Simplicity is not the look that I am trying to achieve.

hopetoquilt 08-16-2012 01:52 PM

I love needle turn. Very easy to undo mistakes. Relaxing to do handwork and I thought it was very easy to learn unlike some other aspects of quilting. There are some awesome Internet videos. I also always use silk thread matching the piece that is being sewn down.

MadQuilter 08-16-2012 03:34 PM

I don't think there is a "best" way to applique. I think it is nice to understand and be able to use different methods. Just try different ones and see what works best for you. I like the steam-a-seam iron-on interfacing with a decorative machine stitch for some, and I like needle-turn for others.

patchsamkim 08-16-2012 04:56 PM

There are so many ways to applique...first you will want to decide if you want to applique by machine or by hand. You can find methods for both that have visible stitches or not. Machine applique had many variables, and a lot may be determined by the sewing machine that you have. When I bought my machine 20 years ago, I knew I wanted a machine that does the blanket stitch, and I do most of my applique with that. It is a fusible applique, but I use the fusible just around the outer 1/4" edge, the center stays soft that way, not stiff from the fusible. I also like doing the "mock-hand applique" which I do using freezer paper, and a very narrow blind hem stitch with invisible thread. Satin stitch if done well looks great, but it takes more time, more thread, and you really need to use a stabilizer for it to look good.
Maybe make some samples of different kinds of applique and see which you prefer.

LivelyLady 08-16-2012 05:05 PM

I think it's different strokes for different folks. I tried every hand applique technique and found that needle turn was for me. I don't have to do extra steps as required by other techniques so it's a great carry along project. I also tried the different machine appliques and my preference by far is raw edge with buttonhole or decorative stitching. I would try out the different techniques and you'll find the ones that are just right for you.

Jackie Spencer 08-16-2012 06:03 PM

I like the freezer paper method, no raw edgeds to unravel!!

earthwalker 08-16-2012 06:51 PM

I have done both...and as the others have mentioned, depends on the look you are seeking and the project. I still go back to what I learned first.... edges turned under and small invisible (well as invisible as possible:)) stitching. I use a card template and iron the edges under rather than needleturn. I have done the raw edge with zigzagging using my machine....wasn't sure how it would work out with washing etc. I did some on a pot mitt as a test, and so far it's still looking good.

Becky Crafts 08-17-2012 05:12 AM

I haven't heard of any right or wrong way to applique. For me, I like to sew 2 pcs together face to face all around, then snip the back to turn the piece & stitch close to the edge to sew it on my project. Like the others have told you, it's personal preference & the look you're going for. My quilts get washed a lot so my way has to stand up well for that purpose. Good luck, hope we get to see your project!

Rose Marie 08-17-2012 05:17 AM

As a beginner I like the method I saw El Burns do. She sewed fusible web to the fabric, dont iron. Cut out shape then make a slit in fusible and turn to right side, this way no raw edges. Then you iron onto fabric and sew edges.
Of course this is for simple shapes for beginners.

Prism99 08-17-2012 10:57 AM

Just want to mention about the Eleanor Burns technique -- sewing a fusible to the piece, making a slit in the fusible, then turning inside out -- that it does not work well for small pieces and pieces with a lot of detail. This method works best for larger shapes with fairly smooth curves, such as medium or larger flowers, or large flower petals. I tried this method on a typical size Sunbonnet Sue block and found it didn't work well for small pieces.

mary quilting 08-17-2012 12:25 PM

Freezer paper applique is my favorite also I like the clean look of it

Jeanette Frantz 08-17-2012 01:15 PM

I have done some Sunbonnet Sue applique -- a 45X60 crib quilt. The Sunbonnet Sue patterns available are fabulous -- a LOT of work, but fabulous. I recently appliqued some large lettering for a quilt-top (baby), but the stabilizer I used just didn't agree with my sewing machine. I messed up so many times I wore a hole in the quilt top. SO, then I had to go to the "commercially-made" appliques to cover up the hole. No one but me will ever know where the hole is/was, though, so that's cool. By using the fusible and then the buttonhole stitck along the edges (using invisible thread), I was able to turn out a block that was really special.

I think it's a matter of your own preference, and being a rank amateur, I'm still learning!

Jeanette Frantz

#1piecemaker 08-17-2012 01:55 PM

I have done a few different methods. I think it depends on the project as to which method to use.

Pieces2 08-18-2012 04:31 AM

There are many ways to applique. Each person usually finds what she likes the best.
I do not applique, too slow a process for me. So if I make a Sunbonnnet Sue, I use fusible web.
Its easy, and a faster method than needle turn. Try several methods to see what you like
before starting a big project.

Sunflower Girl 08-18-2012 05:22 AM

I recently took a two classes at my LQS; one on needle turn and one on machine applique. I think it would depend on the project. If you are looking at doing a project that will be laundered several times over the years, I think needle turn is the answer, and it can be relaxing (at least to me). If it is a wall hanging or a table runner, go for machine applique. It's quicker and will be okay for a few washings. I would suggest taking classes, if you can, or find a good book on the methods. JMHO.

Steady Stiching 08-18-2012 05:25 AM

Learn all that you can and then choose your method by the project you are making and how that item will be used.

Mkotch 08-18-2012 05:41 AM

why not do a sampler with different techniques and see which you like best? I find I use them all for different projects, though. My favorite is freezer paper underneath. One good book on the subject is Applique! Applique! Applique!

Chay 08-18-2012 05:45 AM

I just finished a Dear Jane - lots of applique and boy, could I see an improvement in my skills as I went along. It was all done by hand and I used freezer paper and ironed the edges over the freezer paper then appliqued by hand. I searched the internet to try to find tutorials to get sharp points, find out how to do inner points, etc. There are good tutorials, but what would have really helped me is to sit down with someone and watch them and be able to ask questions. If you could find someone who's already adept at applique see if you can pick their brain about tips and techniques. Good luck!

weezie 08-18-2012 06:26 AM

I have ideas of doing machine applique some day, but haven't yet. I also have some really cute machine embroidery applique designs that I haven't tried yet. Currently I am doing the Little Brown Bird blocks and it is chock full of tiny pieces; for these blocks, I'm doing a 'cheater' version of needle turn. I tried the iron-the-edges-over-a-template method (tried both template plastic & freezer paper) and I just loathe it, so here's what I do. I cut the template out of freezer paper, press it onto the fabric and use a cheap mechanical pencil to draw around the template, including enough fabric all around to turn under. Once the pieces are cut (numbered to correspond with the numbered pieces in the outline) I pin some onto the background fabric, turning under and smoothing the edges as I go. I usually pin a few pieces at night and sew them on the next day. This way, I can remove the pins and the edges stay folded under. I have no problems with unwanted lumps, bumps, or creases. At that point, without having to do much actual needle turn, I can sew something on very quickly and very precisely, removing the few remaining pins as I go. I also have a felt covered styrofoam board that figures large in this method. With straight pins, I keep my block outline and all the little block pieces there, organized and easily accessed.

carolynjo 08-18-2012 09:23 AM

I have learned to applique all the ways but I prefer needle turn because once you do it, you are through; no cutting freezer paper templates, no using glue to turn the fabric, no stiffness from iron-on fusibles. It is tedious to learn, but once you do master it, it goes very quickly.

IAmCatOwned 08-18-2012 09:42 AM

There is no best way. I PREFER turn under and hand stitched. If you machine wash your quilts, I think you are best off with a machine applique of some kind - whether you do turn under or use a fusible of some kind doesn't really matter. My very first machine applique were some bears (Quiltmaker). They weren't very good. I didn't know about putting something underneath and got a lot of tunneling. but eventually, I got over it, matched them with some plain squares, made a baby quilt and gave it away. The 'baby' still has it and loves it despite its imperfections.

terri bb 08-18-2012 10:01 AM

what a wonderful thread! i enjoyed getting all of your opinions! i machine sew during the day but every nite i hand sew or hand quilt. i have started on a double irish chain by hand but the 6.5 inch centers i have done fusible and made flowers and leaves for each one. i am using a pretty sturdy blanket stitch (the biggest one my machine will do) and im finding it looks very 'country'. i am not liking the stiffness of the pellon underneath, but i am hoping after it is washed several times it will become softer. the rest of the quilt is going to be done by hand and then hand quilted. i find hand sewing is so relaxing at the end of the day! i would love to learn to do hand turn on more complicated projects. the flowers in the center are very simple because the recipient of this is a very simple country down to earth girl and i think it fits. i think that learning in person to do this would be better than a book or a youtube. i have watched some and just shake my head. ill post pics as i go for fun and please keep your fingers crossed im pretty new at hand sewing and i find i pull my stitches out and start over if they start to look not quite right!

terri bb 08-18-2012 10:01 AM

congrats on the apple core top being done!! i am 2 rows from my second being finished. congrats!! :))))))

Originally Posted by IAmCatOwned (Post 5449326)
There is no best way. I PREFER turn under and hand stitched. If you machine wash your quilts, I think you are best off with a machine applique of some kind - whether you do turn under or use a fusible of some kind doesn't really matter. My very first machine applique were some bears (Quiltmaker). They weren't very good. I didn't know about putting something underneath and got a lot of tunneling. but eventually, I got over it, matched them with some plain squares, made a baby quilt and gave it away. The 'baby' still has it and loves it despite its imperfections.


irishrose 08-18-2012 11:08 AM

I find a satin stitch done on the machine incredibly washable, but have some concerns about the blanket stitch done recently. I'll have to keep an eye on my daughter's quilt. I would like to learn the needle turn method of hand applique. I do like a pretty satin done on a machine even if it's a little out of style.

Suz 08-18-2012 05:36 PM

I taught myself needle turn many many years ago. Applique is my very favorite method of piecing/quilting. Recently I learned a new method which has become my favorite: back basting applique. I know there is a YouTube video out there but I do it differently. I'll do my best to explain the method to you here:

1. Using a light box or window, trace your complete pattern to the wrong side of your background. Use a light pencil line or the new FriXion pen by Pilot (mine is navy).

2. Determine which piece needs to be appliqued first (one that another piece will overlap). Cut a piece of fabric approximately the size required.

3. From the wrong side of the background, stick pins at 3 or 4 places thru to the right side. Make sure your applique fabric covers the pins right side up. Hold up to the light and make sure your shape is covered.

4. Move the pins to the right side and then baste from the wrong side all the way around your shape. Use 1/4" stitches being sure to have a stitch at a point (as in a leaf). Leave thread tails (do not use any knots because you will be removing these as you stitch).

5. Using either the Pilot pen, the white Clover pen, make a dotted line between the stitches on the right side of the applique piece.

6. Very carefully, trim the applique piece to 1/8" along the dotted line. (Scarey, but if wider, you will have trouble turning a nice curve.)

7. On a straighter edge, begin to turn the edge and start stitching, pulling out 3-4 basting stitch ahead as you go.

8. Take an extra stitch at the point of a leaf to secure before starting down the second side.

NOTE: The Pilot pen and Clover pen inks will disappear with the touch of a iron. The Pilot is available at a stationery store although I purchased mine at the LQS.

Also, where you can see there will be an overlap, you need not needle turn. Just baste is in place with your applique thread to keep it flat.

Also, be aware of a negative/positive pattern. If you need to reverse the direction of a pattern, trace it first on tracing paper, turn over and continue.

Needle turn applique makes you very portable. I also find that I no longer struggle to place my pieces exactly where the pattern says they should be.

Hope this is clear. Ask, if not.

cabbagepatchkid 08-18-2012 06:52 PM

I've used the freezer paper method to applique but I've been thinking about trying the "back basting" method. Here is a short tutorial about it:

http://www.allaboutapplique.net/2008...hand-applique/

It looks pretty easy.

ETA: Here's another: http://sentimentalstitches.net/instr...hand-applique/

Silver Needle 08-18-2012 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by cabbagepatchkid (Post 5450489)
I've used the freezer paper method to applique but I've been thinking about trying the "back basting" method. Here is a short tutorial about it:

http://www.allaboutapplique.net/2008...hand-applique/

It looks pretty easy.

ETA: Here's another: http://sentimentalstitches.net/instr...hand-applique/

Will the back basting method work on really small pieces, or just larger ones?

Treasureit 08-18-2012 07:11 PM

I have done several different methods of applique and for quilts that will see some use and washing I have discovered that the satin stitch or the blanket stitch with fusible wonder under (or similar) seems to last the longest. I sometimes incorporated several methods in one quilt if it seems appropriate for a better look. I have made 10 or so applique quilts for my grandchildren and most have been surviving quite well. I think they all use them on their beds. When I can I also use the Eleanor Burns method on larger pieces, but not on small ones.

Trial and error were my teachers...each time I make one I do something a little different.

Suz 08-18-2012 07:34 PM

Regarding really small pieces, i.e., a small circle. I have tried to use the back basting to make them and was not satisfied with the results. For these, I will use the template, yoyo, starch approach. It works for some other small shapes but a circle needs to look like a circle.

Cabbagepatch, thank you for the tutes. I had not seen these two. Their illustrations are very good and should work better than the lengthy explanation I tried above. The one I had seen had basted on all of her pieces which to me was too confusing. I would rather work with one or two pieces at a time.

DOTTYMO 08-18-2012 10:15 PM

Used many methods of doing appliqué. The. One methods I did not like was using an invisible thread to machine down. It was the machining and the finished result. Also I felt this thread would not be suitable for a baby quilt/rug. I was also not sure about how long it would last with frequent washing. I usually hand turn but at present due to a wrist operation I have to machine or Elenor Burns method.

appliquequiltdesigns 08-18-2012 10:16 PM

I make a lot of applique baby quilts and I hand applique. My favorite method is using fusible web. It turns your raw edges under so you don't need to do needle turn applique. If you want to know how - just send me a pm.

janedee 08-18-2012 10:32 PM

I am an obsessed needle-turn appliquer very relaxing to do and haven't had any problems with repeated washing only thing I will comment on if you want to wash any quilt with applique on don't use the fusible method whichever way you do it - enjoy

mojo11 08-19-2012 11:11 AM

I do needle turn applique. I fell in love with all the gorgeous quilts that were appliqued, so I got some books and videos and taught myself. So relaxing. Have not tried machine applique.


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