probably should start a new topic but here goes: :0) As far as using fabric softeners: I now use a tennis ball, it softens and often eliminates the static cling.
quote=katykwilt]Very well said! BTW, Did you know that using fabric softeners increases the flammibility? And who doesn't use that for all our sleepwear -- and the rest of our laundry.

Glad I was raised before we knew all these things that HAD to be regulated by someone besides ourselves. It might be we knew the time of Freedom with Responsiblity.[/quote]

What happened to using "common sense" and being held responsible for your own actions???? As someone said before---sue happy :thumbdown:
Also as somebody mentioned before...it is a wonder I got to be 57 YOA (my age) without all the warnings. My warnings came from parents/family and the neighbors. :thumbup:

Some of it has to do with the CPSIA laws...it's just how the law works...

I seriously thought there was a different kind of "Child Approved" flannel, and I just couldn't find it. My little babies are four legged, and I am not letting them sleep next to any open flames, either, but would not be in a hurry to put them in anything that I would have to worry about bursting into flames on its own. So it didn't make much sense that all these cute flannels were not meant to be used for kids.

I agree, some of the warnings seem like you would have to be brain dead to even try what they warn you against. Why, for instance, would you want to use a hair dryer IN the shower? Seems a little self defeating.

Now that I know it's safe to use the flannel fabrics I already have on hand, I plan to make some new pillow shams for the dog's beds. Taffy especially, loves climbing inside them, and just sticking her head out. Have I mentioned that they are the best cure for not laughing enough? And I have a ggson that might enjoy a new blanket.

I've often thought I would rather keep my kids away from flames than expose them to the chemicals required to flame-proof their clothing.

I beg to differ. We live in a society where the GOVERNMENT feels we have to be told not to put a plastic bag over our head.

Whilst I agree with most of the comments here...I also have to say with regards to children you have to be really careful what fabrics you use for clothing.
For my daughters textile exam she had to fire test a load of fabrics.....We spent an evening in the garden over a tub of cold water and set fire to them. I was absolutely shocked at the speed at which some fabrics burnt, literally seconds and they were up in horrendous flames....a child standing too close to a fire where a spark could spit and cause the garment to burn would not stand a chance in some fabrics........If I remember right this was why the warning was bought in in the first place because such incidents happened.
So common sense is a must....making garments for children where there may be flammables in the house, not just open fires but gas cookers, candles and cigarettes....you need to think carefully, because some of the cottons and flannels burn unbelievably quick.
In a quilt you would have time hopefully to throw it away from your body but getting a child out of pjyamas wouldn't be nearly so easy.
I may sound dramatic...but as a nurse I have seen horrific things and severe burns come top of the list.

Well, I usually agree that these things are just stupid and the people should use common sense. However, I know a lawyer who had some dealings with the case. McD's had been warned several times and sued several times over injuries from their scalding coffee. They chose to ignore the warnings. The woman who finally won had third degree burns. Her flesh was literally falling off. There is hot coffee and then there is boiling coffee.

K3N has the perfect answer, who puts their child near an open flame? Carol J. posed a perfect point, how in the world did I live to be 70 years old and drink out of the garden hose, eat hamburgers cooked over charcoal, raise a beautiful young man without endangering him one wit. We live in a most litigious society and the manufacturers are just CYA as fast as they can. I have used flannel all my life and no one has ever been injured and I will continue to use it as long as my fingers will work.

Common sense seems in short supply today or am I just getting old and cranky?

when you make them to sell they are called lounge sets not
pj's at least on ebay they do

This world is crazy. Everybody's sue-happy. It's sad.

I was at Sew Chic, a very complete quilt shop in Fairmont, West Virginia today and they had gorgeous, sophisticated cotton flannels. The colors and patterns were so attractive they could be made up into daywear as well as quilts/nightwear. They appeared to be high quality goods--and as pleasurable to stroke as a baby bunny. :thumbup:

Reminds of me of Bill Engles and song heres your sign

Reminds of me of Bill Engles and song heres your sign

No, we live in a society where the PEOPLE love to sue if they drink coffee that really hot, or trip on a crack in the sidewalk because they aren't looking, or think someone is keeping them out of a group because they are Black, or Catholic, or a first generation immigrant, or........ Some kid died in a plastic bag so now they have warnings..... The government didn't sue, the stupid parents that weren't careful did, and some jury gave it to them.

i say get rid of all the warning lables and go back to survival of the fittist. the gene pool could use a little clorox. if people would just use some common sense and more importantly take responsibility for their actions, but well........ they don't.

I think that if your kid is close enough to fire for it to make a difference, you already have much bigger problems. I think no one wants to hold responsibility. In any case, the hair, hands and face are not covered. Treated fabrics doesn't offer much protection and is not permanent. Anything added to fabric eventually washes away, just like the stain resistance. I say go on and make cute pjs.

Iam with you on this one all the way. When I was 11 I leaned across a coil burner on our stove, the cotton top I was wearing brushed the coils and caught fire, before I even knew that I was on fire my mom had grabbed a tea towel and put it out, but it taught me a valuable lesson, it doesn't have to be open flame, just hot enough to combust. Synthetics on the other hand just melt and don't burn, this is great in home furnishings, etc
as it give the people time to escape the fire, I just don't get it on clothing tho.

I asked my daughter this very question a few days ago.

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Good thing I wasn't on the jury either!

Totally agree with this Carol with one additional point: The flannel is not going to spontaneously combust! It's just not flame retardant. You don't have to worry about the kids running too fast in their PJs and the friction from their legs rubbing together causing them to burst into flames.

you have to admit though putting hot coffee of any temp on the seat between your legs is pretty danged stupid......

Why wasn't it all her fault - why would you put hot coffee between your legs - for that matter, why would you put any coffee between your legs while driving. I was mad at McD's when they gave her such a large amount. I maintain it was her fault.

It's not her fault because coffee is normally served between 130 & 140 degrees. McDonald's was serving it between 180-190 degrees which is hot enough to cause 3rd degree burns within 2-7 seconds. It was simply not safe. Originally, she only asked for enough $$$ to cover to skin grafts she had to have, but the final settlement was $640,000, far less than the millions people say.

It does seem like a catch 22 for us. Here is the perfect fabrics that our little ones want to have for their pj's, and here is the warning planted allover it.
Can't tell me that manufactorers don't know that they are enticing the unknowing among us. It is almost like they are daring us to use the fabrics for that cause so they can say "not my problem".

It does seem like a catch 22 for us. Here is the perfect fabrics that our little ones want to have for their pj's, and here is the warning planted allover it.
Can't tell me that manufactorers don't know that they are enticing the unknowing among us. It is almost like they are daring us to use the fabrics for that cause so they can say "not my problem".


sorry on a lap top for the first time hit the button again.

I don't know....I am a coffee lover from age 5, and even then would have had enough sense not to put a take out cup between my legs. Just saying. Sorry she was burned, but why would you put a cup of coffee, or anything hot there? Especially if you are driving.

fabric doesn't have to be flame retardent for kids under 9 months of age, only between 9 months through 12 years. Nancy