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mrspete 12-12-2010 10:58 AM

Has anyone learned whether the world markets have found a substitute for Cotton! This southern gal just briefly heard something so if I relate it, do not take if for fact. BUT, agricultural world recognizes that cotton depletes the soil and has to be replanted each year. That means more treatments to soil and more labor to replant and cultivate. The bamboo plant is a staple plant in that it can be cut and never have to be replanted and needs little soil treatment. The fibers from the bamboo plant are spun as we do our cotton. NOW I am stretching to imagine this but I think it would be a wonderful 'green' route. Any feed?

Blessings,
Ruth

erstan947 12-12-2010 11:00 AM

It's already on the market. I love bamboo batting:)

amma 12-12-2010 11:11 AM

bamboo and soy fabrics are out there now :D:D:D

hobo2000 12-12-2010 11:12 AM

My kids love Bamboo shirts and Hemp shirts and jeans. Hemp is easier to work with and holds up better than bamboo. However, Bamboo is silkier.

sewmuchmore 12-12-2010 11:19 AM

I have tons of Bamboo wish I knew of the company that would buy it from me. :wink:

donnajean 12-12-2010 11:41 AM

I think the socks I am wearing were made from bamboo.

mrspete 12-12-2010 12:14 PM

I've got a lot of reading to do, dontcha think? I've been drifting again, thanks y'all.

Blessings,
Ruth

Scissor Queen 12-12-2010 12:35 PM

There is no real substitute for cotton. Cotton is nearly ready to use straight off the plant. You have to remove the seeds and comb it but that's about all you have to do to make it ready to spin into yarns. All the other plants, bamboo, soy, flax and hemp have to be processed into useable fibers first. They use chemicals to do the processing.

BellaBoo 12-12-2010 01:15 PM

Nice thought but from what I've read, the process of making cloth from bamboo would deplete more resources then replanting of the cotton. But everyone would rush to buy bamboo fabric just because it is labeled 'green'. Then the cotton industry would die back. When the bamboo hype becomes reality of what is being lost, then the cotton growers will be almost non existent. I do not support most 'green' products or methods until it's proven to save more then it looses.

TN Donna 12-12-2010 01:26 PM

I did read the other day online somewhere that China is finding a shortage of cotton to make material.

june6995 12-12-2010 01:27 PM

On a recent visit to one of the LQS I talked with the owner who informed me that the U.S. no longer grows cotton for fabric. Her comment was that it is all grown and processed in China. I told her that I thought the U.S. was still growing cotton in the South to which she replied, "yes, but it is not fabric grade cotton." Like a lot of other things, there must be different grades and qualities.

I know that bamboo can be grown in U.S. because I have seen it and also read that it is hard to control once it has been planted. Does the U.S. harvest and produce "cotton" from any bamboo grown in this country? Just curious?

June in Cincinnati

Texasjunebug 12-12-2010 01:33 PM

Bamboo takes way too much water to grow. I checked into growing it. To label it green for production of fabric is a MIS-interpretation of reality. I will always support cotton. Bamboo reed does make decorative fencing quite nicely because it lasts a very long time.

Ramona Byrd 12-12-2010 09:21 PM

I know that bamboo can be grown in U.S. because I have seen it and also read that it is hard to control once it has been planted. Does the U.S. harvest and produce "cotton" from any bamboo grown in this country? Just curious?
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As a nursery family member I can tell you about the growing part..I found out the hard way. There are about two kinds of Bamboo, ranging from a couple of inches to OMG!! The clumping kind is where you put out a cute little plant and watch it grow, and soon cute little ones come up all around Mamma and in their own turn have cute little bamboo shoots growing up around them.

Then there's the running kind. You put out a cute little plant and watch it grow, and soon, one day you hear your neighbor down the block screaming about where in h%#@ did that D!@# bamboo plant come from that is in his lawn. That is the time for you to quickly dig up YOUR bamboo, hurriedly throw it away so no one will know you had it and in a few days YOU can be the one screaming about that D!@# bamboo plant coming up in your front lawn!!

My DH made me put mine in a pot and built me a rolling flat to keep it on so it wouldn't root in our planter beds. Finally gave it to my brother who did not listen to any advice and would up with a bamboo forest that almost prevented any sight of his house from the road. Had to be poisoned to get rid of it.

Moon Holiday 12-13-2010 04:31 AM

And, did you know there is yarn made out of bamboo, hemp, silk, soy and sugarcane! To be honest I haven't seen sugarcane fabric but I did buy some sugarcane yarn as a gift for a friend and it had a lot of silk yarn properties. I bought it because she loves to knit with unusual things and I wanted to get her something exotic that I knew she'd never used before. She loved it!

http://www.yarn.com/webs-knitting-cr...-fiber-exotic/

quilt3311 12-13-2010 05:13 AM

I did purchase a bamboo batting at a show last spring. I think it worked OK, but I still like cotton the best. Used my Hobby Lobby coupon last week for a roll of cotton batting. 40% savings and will have batting for a LONG time.

june6995 12-13-2010 05:14 AM

This has gotten to be very educational. Thanks to all of you for sharing your knowledge with us. I am sure many of us will not go so far as to research this subject. This is exactly
what makes this Board the biggest and best among information board. We start out with sewing and quilting and before we know it, we are researching how our fabrics are made, all the way down to the plant from which it is grown.

You guys are MAAAR-VELOUS!

June in Cincinnati

Dodie 12-13-2010 05:19 AM

I agree with everything you said Bellaboo not only that but this replacement stuff is going to be very expensive and at 2 of our local quilt shops they do not carry bamboo quilt batting as they said to expensive and it does not hold up like cotton in the washing I have not tried it but going by what I was told

ladydi64 12-13-2010 06:23 AM

I have yarn that is made out of bamboo and its fantastic, feels and works just like cotton yarn.

Bye_the_Bye 12-13-2010 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by Dodie
I agree with everything you said Bellaboo not only that but this replacement stuff is going to be very expensive and at 2 of our local quilt shops they do not carry bamboo quilt batting as they said to expensive and it does not hold up like cotton in the washing I have not tried it but going by what I was told

A quilter friend told me that after a few washes a quilt made with bamboo batting starts to make a crinkly noise.

hobo2000 12-13-2010 07:14 AM

I made 3 quilts using Bamboo batting. I love the way it drapes and it is light but much warmer than cotton and gives more definition to the quilting. With the continued failure of foreign crops, 3 years in a row, we must look to other replacements. I favor hemp as a material. I don't know the problems but they are trying to use the rice leaf as a replacement for fabrics. Cotton destroys the natural minerals in the earth. It does not give back and you are supposed to alternate crops to replenish the soil but most growers do not. They try adding the chemicals and keep on growing. We must stop destroying our planet.

Tippy 12-13-2010 07:28 AM

There are 2 methods for processing bamboo.. one is "natural" and doesn't use harmful chemicals.. but takes MUCH longer to process and much more work. the second uses enough chemicals that it totally negates the "green" benefits.. so until they find a third option I'll stick with cotton. That is why they quit making so much linen.. retting it takes a LONG time and you have to stomp it and tend it daily to process it properly.

ShirlinAZ 12-13-2010 08:12 AM

Cotton IS still grown in the US and sold to make fabric. The problem is that we don't weave much fabric here, so most of the cotton is shipped to Asia where labor is cheap. They weave, print/dye/etc the cotton then ship it back to us and elsewhere. Makes great sense, huh? Cotton is still grown in the southern US, and in Arizona. Yes, it depletes the soil, but crop rotation will replenish the soil. Most corporations are too cheap to take a field out of production for a year or two, and our family farms are nearly gone. It's up to us to force the issue. Keep buying cotton, folks.

jojosnana 12-13-2010 11:43 AM

I have bamboo pjs and they are wonderful. I think I also saw bamboo sheets but they were a bit high in price so perhaps it is a market to come yet.

mommafank 12-13-2010 01:19 PM

Bamboo bath towels are the bomb!

NanSew 12-13-2010 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
There is no real substitute for cotton. Cotton is nearly ready to use straight off the plant. You have to remove the seeds and comb it but that's about all you have to do to make it ready to spin into yarns. All the other plants, bamboo, soy, flax and hemp have to be processed into useable fibers first. They use chemicals to do the processing.

And all of this processing make it more expensive for a hobby that is already quite expensive. Just saying.

Donna Hall 12-13-2010 01:36 PM

I purchased some bamboo fabric. Luckly I prewashed a piece I had measured and cut. After the wash I measured again and it had shurk about 2 inches. And as far as going green, how much more green can you get than cotton.

mommafank 12-13-2010 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by Donna Hall
I purchased some bamboo fabric. Luckly I prewashed a piece I had measured and cut. After the wash I measured again and it had shurk about 2 inches. And as far as going green, how much more green can you get than cotton.

Yes you are right about the cotton....go figure what the great minds of the world are thinking.

stitchofclass2 12-13-2010 02:54 PM

They are making such headway with bamboo and soy plants. I knitted my GDs hats this winter and the yarn was 25% soy. How about that!

Olivia's Grammy 12-13-2010 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by jojosnana
I have bamboo pjs and they are wonderful. I think I also saw bamboo sheets but they were a bit high in price so perhaps it is a market to come yet.

My DD bought some bamboo sheets and yes they were very expensive.

PiecesinMn 12-13-2010 03:50 PM

Here's my question. Quilts have been made for a long time with cotton batting and with polyester batting. You know from history how these battings hold up. How long has bamboo batting been around and has any findings been done on how they hold up. I've not used bamboo for this very reason. After all the time and money I put into a quilt, I don't want to read (probably here) that it doesn't hold up or work as great as they first thought. Opps!! Any information on that????

crankygran 12-13-2010 03:54 PM

Bamboo uses a Lot of water in its processing. Seems like we are dam-- if we do and dam-- if we don't.

pookie ookie 12-13-2010 03:58 PM

Let me know when someone figures out how to make "cotton" out of kudzu. Until then, I'm sticking with the real thing.

Gingersnap 12-13-2010 04:15 PM

used the bamboo once but has anyone used the batting made from plastic bottles. what are thge pros and cons?

quiltmom04 12-13-2010 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by Gingersnap
used the bamboo once but has anyone used the batting made from plastic bottles. what are thge pros and cons?

I have used it and I do like it! It drapes nicely and is easy to work with.

mshawii 12-13-2010 05:21 PM

Any idea how much it costs and if the quilt stores are going to carry it?

sewbizgirl 12-13-2010 05:25 PM

I am primarily a dressmaker and a knitter. In knitting yarns, I absolutley HATE bamboo. It's slippery and slick and has wimpy drape, and once knitted keeps on growing and growing and growing. I can't imagine ever switching from cotton fabrics to bamboo, soy, corn, or the like.

Like BellaBoo, I don't buy the "green" technology hype we are having shoved down our throats left and right. There are always "Progressives", hungry to reinvent the wheel, who usually end up having to admit to failure.

If it ain't broke, don't "fix" it... Maybe the shortage of cotton for China will revitalize some cotton farming in America. I heard a startling figure on the radio the other day, that 60% of all U.S. farms today only gross $10,000 or less annually. That is just pitiful.

Dodie 12-13-2010 05:38 PM

I only know what 2 quilt shops told me as to why they do not stock bamboo batting is because it does not hold up in the washings and that it is very expensive

bleighw 12-13-2010 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by mrspete
Has anyone learned whether the world markets have found a substitute for Cotton! This southern gal just briefly heard something so if I relate it, do not take if for fact. BUT, agricultural world recognizes that cotton depletes the soil and has to be replanted each year. That means more treatments to soil and more labor to replant and cultivate. The bamboo plant is a staple plant in that it can be cut and never have to be replanted and needs little soil treatment. The fibers from the bamboo plant are spun as we do our cotton. NOW I am stretching to imagine this but I think it would be a wonderful 'green' route. Any feed?

Blessings,
Ruth

Bamboo is not "green". Couple of reasons: water consumption is quite high; chemicals that are required to make fibers ready for fabric manufacturing are toxic and most of the workers are not protected. As usual, workers are second and third world women.

kathidahl 12-13-2010 06:25 PM

Bamboo does make a beautiful floor...sounds like that is where it should stay..under foot!

quiltmom04 12-13-2010 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by mshawii
Any idea how much it costs and if the quilt stores are going to carry it?

If you mean the green batting, it's actually a bit less than cotton and the fabric store locally does carry it. I suspect if yours doesn't, they can order it for you.


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