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Nolee 11-20-2010 07:32 AM

Someone please help me. I only machine quilt. I use the walking foot. I can do backing fine on potholders, place mats and table runners but anything bigger than that and I get creases in the back. I am always pulling out. It is never smooth. I pin and pin and pin so I don't know what I am doing wrong. Is the only solution to keep cutting the thread, taking a look underneath and then reconnecting thread? That doesn't seem practical.

janRN 11-20-2010 07:38 AM

I starch my backing pretty stiff and then use spray baste. I also pin about every 8-10 inches. This is the only way I can do anything larger than a runner. Otherwise I also get the tucks and pleats. Good luck!

amma 11-20-2010 07:38 AM

I starch the dickens out of my backing.
Then when sandwiching, I tape or pin down the backing, slightly pulling it so it is taught, but not stretched. Then add the batting and the top.

Also, make sure that you are pinning/basting it closely enough, too :D:D:D

quilter68 11-20-2010 07:40 AM

There is a quilt on one of my dinning room chairs for more than a year because of a BIG crease. I was hand quilting it and did not look at the back. Oh my. On my bucket list.

karen65ae 11-20-2010 07:45 AM

Starch then tape( use masking tape or what ever tape will stick to your floor.).. the backing to the floor firmly not stretched making sure there are no creases then put batting then quilt top... Pin about every 4 inches... Once pinned remove from the floor and turn over and check that the batting is smooth I sometimes have to repin some sections.. another way is to use bull clips to hold the backing onto a table then pin batting etc

Scissor Queen 11-20-2010 08:08 AM

If you use the Sharon Schamber method you don't have pleats and you don't have to get down on the floor either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhwNylePFAA

bj 11-20-2010 08:15 AM

You may not be pulling the back taught enough before you pin.

Scissor Queen 11-20-2010 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by bj
You may not be pulling the back taught enough before you pin.

Pulling the back too tight can cause wrinkles too.

Gina_D 11-20-2010 08:32 AM

If you use a table, there are large clips that you can attach to the edges that will help keep your backing fabric tight (not too tight), providing that the clips fit on the edge of the table!

hobo2000 11-20-2010 08:43 AM

Thank you for the Sharon Schamber method. I am tired of ruining my fingers and nails with pins. I am off to get boards and try this method.

Scissor Queen 11-20-2010 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by hobo2000
Thank you for the Sharon Schamber method. I am tired of ruining my fingers and nails with pins. I am off to get boards and try this method.

If you look thru the boards at a Home Depot you'll find some that are already primed on one side and the edges. The ones I found are a wood product similar to MDF. They're very nice and very straight.

littlehud 11-20-2010 09:23 AM

I had pleats all the time too. Til I started using basting spray. That solved that problem for me.

asmmauer 11-20-2010 09:39 AM

I had this happen to me also I used basting spray and pens but
forgot to put on walking foot got to end of quilt huge glob .It also helps if you work your way out from middle on large
projects.And agree with everyone else pen or baste well.Good luck I know your frustration.

Nolee 11-20-2010 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
If you use the Sharon Schamber method you don't have pleats and you don't have to get down on the floor either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhwNylePFAA

Thank you, thank you. I would be able to get ON the floor, but would not be able to get up without help so this has been wonderful. I'm the one who gets on the floor then tries to get up, ends up laughing so much with my husband that he finally has to step in. I walk fine, it's the floor that is my challenge, so thank you again :)

Also, I pinned about 4" apart. I am going to study this tutorial.

MadQuilter 11-20-2010 11:56 AM

I pull my backing real taut without overstretching and tape it down with painter's tape. (Usually, I work on large tabled pushed together at work to do this) Then I lay the batting down in halves and smooth it out on top, patting as I go. I repeat with the top and pin about hand-width apart.
Then I check the back and make sure all is smooth.
By using that method, I have had no puckers using the alking foot for SID or other straight stitch quilting.

Mary L Booth 11-21-2010 03:14 AM

My husband went to home depot and got me 2 8 ft straight boards, he painted and sanded them and now I put the leaf in our dinning room table and set and pin I do as Sharon does only I pin. Works great and no pleats on the back.

hopetoquilt 11-21-2010 03:23 AM


Originally Posted by karen65ae
Starch then tape( use masking tape or what ever tape will stick to your floor.).. the backing to the floor firmly not stretched making sure there are no creases then put batting then quilt top... Pin about every 4 inches... Once pinned remove from the floor and turn over and check that the batting is smooth I sometimes have to repin some sections.. another way is to use bull clips to hold the backing onto a table then pin batting etc

Where do you get these bull clips? I would love to use them when I make crib quilts

keesha_ont 11-21-2010 06:33 AM

Its the only way I baste since seeing her video - no creases!!

OmaForFour 11-21-2010 06:34 AM

This is a fabulous idea!


Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
If you use the Sharon Schamber method you don't have pleats and you don't have to get down on the floor either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhwNylePFAA


Scissor Queen 11-21-2010 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by OmaForFour
This is a fabulous idea!


Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
If you use the Sharon Schamber method you don't have pleats and you don't have to get down on the floor either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhwNylePFAA


I basted a baby quilt using this method yesterday. It was very easy and really pretty fast.

PKITTY1 11-21-2010 09:08 AM

I have this problem too but with hand quilting, it is easier to fix but still time wasting. Thanks for all the great ideas.

quiltmom04 11-21-2010 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by janRN
I starch my backing pretty stiff and then use spray baste. I also pin about every 8-10 inches. This is the only way I can do anything larger than a runner. Otherwise I also get the tucks and pleats. Good luck!

Agree with the starching and spray baste. But I pin closer - about 4" - about the width of your hand.

IBQUILTIN 11-21-2010 10:39 AM

I agree with amma, starch, spray baste and then pin. I know the pins are a pain, but it keeps your backing smooth

Dmart 11-21-2010 12:46 PM

I found boards at Home depot . They are facia trim boards for your house. well I bought those because they were already painted on all 4 sides,very smooth. They even cut them to the size I needed. They work great!

ann31039 11-21-2010 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Nolee

Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
If you use the Sharon Schamber method you don't have pleats and you don't have to get down on the floor either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhwNylePFAA

Thank you, thank you. I would be able to get ON the floor, but would not be able to get up without help so this has been wonderful. I'm the one who gets on the floor then tries to get up, ends up laughing so much with my husband that he finally has to step in. I walk fine, it's the floor that is my challenge, so thank you again :)

great tutorial. i once spent a whole day on my kitchen floor with those 12" square self stick tiles and my marble rolling pin. i wound up having to crawl to a wall and "walk" up the wall with my hands just to straighten up. getting to middle age bites.

Also, I pinned about 4" apart. I am going to study this tutorial.


DeniseU 11-21-2010 04:00 PM

I use all-cotton fabric for back and top, then 100% cotton or 80/20 batting, then it all sticks together pretty good, in addition to pinning.

Once (and only once), I used polyester batting, and everything slipped around way too much. So I got the spray, and it worked, but I would only use it again if I had a shed or somewhere I could go where people wouldn't have to breath it.

So, all cotton, to sum it up.

Annz 11-21-2010 04:38 PM

I agree with Karen65ae. Read her reply and you shouldn't have any problems.

quilttiludrop 11-21-2010 05:15 PM

The walking foot is only good for straight stitching. If you want to do FMQ (free motion quilting), you need to get a hopping foot to fit your machine.

madamekelly 11-21-2010 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
If you use the Sharon Schamber method you don't have pleats and you don't have to get down on the floor either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhwNylePFAA

Thank you so much! I remember my grandmother doing her quilts this way, but I had forgotten it. :oops: :thumbup:

SittingPretty 11-21-2010 06:00 PM

I made a log cabin quilt recently, and I was having a terrible time just quilting in the ditch on the front. I kept getting a "pleat" at the end of the line of stitching. I did it the best I could, washed it, and it looks really nice. You can't even see the "pleats". It puckered up really nice all over and looks good. Just a nice old-fashioned look.

polly13 11-21-2010 06:28 PM

[quote=Scissor Queen]If you use the Sharon Schamber method you don't have pleats and you don't have to get down on the floor either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhwNylePFAA[/quote

This was such a wonderful video. I, too, am anxious to get some boards and try it. I have learned so much from all of you on the Quilting Board.

jitkaau 11-21-2010 06:40 PM

Try spraying your sandwich together with basting spray glue - it works, and no pins to worry about. It sounds like you do not have a quilting table that butts into your machine so that you have a smooth surface to glide over. It is more difficult to avoid puckers if you are humping the quilt over the sleeve arm all of the time. A sewing table where your machine sits flatly in the recess would help equally as well.

Phyl 11-21-2010 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by Nolee
Someone please help me. I only machine quilt. I use the walking foot. I can do backing fine on potholders, place mats and table runners but anything bigger than that and I get creases in the back. I am always pulling out. It is never smooth. I pin and pin and pin so I don't know what I am doing wrong. Is the only solution to keep cutting the thread, taking a look underneath and then reconnecting thread? That doesn't seem practical.

In order to avoid those nasty little creases, I put my batting on one side only and sew that together. When the batting is sewn to one side I then put the other side on and sew show it so I can see that side. As long as the batting has been put on from the other side you don't have to do as many stitches, just enough to keep the fabric on. It is soooooooooooooo much easier! No more creases but do remember to clean your machine more often as there will be more "fuzzies" under the bobbin plate etc. (The quilt police will go nuts over this one but it works beautifully for me and that's what counts.)

Momsmurf 11-21-2010 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Nolee
Someone please help me. I only machine quilt. I use the walking foot. I can do backing fine on potholders, place mats and table runners but anything bigger than that and I get creases in the back. I am always pulling out. It is never smooth. I pin and pin and pin so I don't know what I am doing wrong. Is the only solution to keep cutting the thread, taking a look underneath and then reconnecting thread? That doesn't seem practical.




Are you using a walking foot to quilt with?
That will help move all layers through at the same time.

:thumbup:

danade 11-21-2010 09:47 PM

If you can lay out your quilt sandwich on a table that is thin enough (my glass dining room tabletop is just right for this) you can clip your backing all the way around with big binder clips (from Office Depot or Office Max) and tape it with painter's tape or masking tape as well. Sometimes I use the basting spray but don't like it so much because it's difficult to reposition once it's sandwiched. It's always something.

Dana

Momsmurf 11-21-2010 10:48 PM

I happen to be fortunate enough to have an inexpensive New Joy quilting frame and I have found that I can pin my backing to the take up rollers (pinning to the leader fabric) then I put down my batting and quilt top. Then I pin baste it while standing. When finished with that section, I remove the pins and slide the "sandwich" up and re-pin it again. I repeat this until all is basted. This is done for the smaller quilts that I quilt on my regular machine.

I have found it saves my back and legs and it's also in the same room - on the same floor! :-P

mac 11-21-2010 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
If you use the Sharon Schamber method you don't have pleats and you don't have to get down on the floor either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhwNylePFAA

Thanks, Scissor Queen, for the video. I'm going to have to try this. It seems that there is a lot more control to be had doing it her way. We'll see.

By the way, an other famous teacher, Becky Goldsmith, doesn't pin her quilts either. She bastes them like Sharon does and clips the threads as she quilts it.

Ilovemydogs 11-22-2010 11:46 AM

Thanks for the tips! I have had my share of creases!

KathyKat 11-22-2010 02:34 PM

I had that problem once and got a tip on this site to use basting spray. I love it! I never have a problem now and I've found that if I put a layer on a little crooked, I can peel it off and reposition it...even hours later.

quilterguy27 11-22-2010 05:01 PM

Dependng on the size of the quilt I either do it on a table or on the floor. Like others, I stretch my backing taut, but not too much as to stretch it. On the table I use clips to hold the backing. On the floor I use painters tape. Lay on the batting, then the top. I pin baste about every 4 or 5 inches. When done I always check the back first before going any farther. Make any corrections as needed, then quilt til your hearts content. I've never had a problem with pleats, folds, or creases. Good luck. Oh, I would like to try the basting spray. Just haven't yet.


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