I was reading in a quilting book that to prep your fabric, prewashed or not, you tear it to put it on grain, line up selvedges and starch it to get it back to shape, as when it is rolled onto the bolt it becomes a bit off.
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Yes, but I have to buy extra as so many fabrics are way off grain!
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I'm a RIPPER! Need a small piece? RIIIIIPPPPPP. It's easier to keep the larger pieces of my stash in order, if they are rectangle, rather than have some 'lil corner carved out.
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I guess I don't understand how it doesn't make it more off grain. I mean, ripping something should distort the rest of the fabric, so doesn't ripping make it worse?
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Originally Posted by Butterfli19
I guess I don't understand how it doesn't make it more off grain. I mean, ripping something should distort the rest of the fabric, so doesn't ripping make it worse?
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Originally Posted by Butterfli19
I guess I don't understand how it doesn't make it more off grain. I mean, ripping something should distort the rest of the fabric, so doesn't ripping make it worse?
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I prewash and rip anything that needs to be straight. Even with my longest ruler I can't cut say border pieces straight. If I tear them I know they are on grain. Years ago I worked for a Bernina dealer who made her bread and butter doing custom dressmaking and alterations. I learned a lot from her about fabric. Straight of grain is very important in garment construction. According to her fabric is often loaded on the bolt damp which distorts it even more. In her shop we made everything from wedding dresses to shower curtains. If it had to hang straight we either tore it or pulled a thread to get the exact straight of grain. It really does make a difference in the finished product.
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I am totally lost ::insert cricket sound:: :oops:
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I don't rip my fabric. I don't like how it distorts and separates the weave. If you are working with a plaid or check that had to be perfect I might. I sometimes will rip a huge yardage in half to make it more managable (too big a piece to rotary cut on mat).
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Originally Posted by Butterfli19
I was reading in a quilting book that to prep your fabric, prewashed or not, you tear it to put it on grain, line up selvedges and starch it to get it back to shape, as when it is rolled onto the bolt it becomes a bit off.
Do you do this? If not, how do you prepare your fabric? |
The way I learned in Homeec is to pull a thread across the grain, and cut along this thread. This gives you a true edge. Then when you place the fabric down smooth (selvedges together) if that edge is not lined up (the selveges) on the end, you need to stretch the fabric on the bias all the way down until it is straight. This way there is no distortion. Now since I have been making quilts and my pieces are so small, not a problem, however if you are making borders, can be a problem if the weave is off.
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I do on extra-wide fabrics. I've found that on standard 42"/44" fabric, I can pretty well manage to straighten the grain by lining up selvedges and shifting side-to-side to find a good fold. With extra-wide fabric, it's really just easier to rip it. I also prefer to rip if I need long strips. And sometimes I'll rip when I've having an aggravating day. ;)
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The reason why this works is becuase when you rip the fabric it will rip along a thread line. That will give you the straight line you are looking for, it won't necessarily and often doesn't follow the pattern line printed on the fabric. When you cut the fabric you cut through any threads weather they follow the same line or not. It's all about the weave of the fabric.
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Rarely do I rip the whole piece, but I do Pull a Thread, find the true line of the Warp, and then cut, with either scissors or my Rotary Blade. When I have a really big piece, like 8 yards of muslin, and want two yards, then I would rip just for quickness.
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Trying to understand this- so, for instance, when I make the backing for my quilt, instead of cutting, cutting, cutting with my rotary cutter, I could just rip the whole thing down the length of it?? I understand that it would rip along the thread line, I'd just be so worried that I'd be distorting the fabric by stretching it...
I never even heard of ripping fabric- I'm already learning so much on this board! |
I have heard of ripping from selvedge to selvedge to straighten the grain line. But it sounds like some of you rip the fabric lengthwise also. Am I reading correctly? This would make 'cutting' the borders easier. Do you tear just slightly bigger than what you need, to allow for the 'fringe' that results from the tear?
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years ago, no stores cut fabric. the edge was clipped and then the fabric ripped - straight of grain every time. i hate the way some shops cut the fabric on their grid, and don't give you an extra 1/4 inch either, btw. then, when you get home and wash that fabric, it will straighten up and you are left with angular pieces on each end. that's why i always buy extra fabric and consider it part of the cost of the item i am making.
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Originally Posted by mshollysd
The way I learned in Homeec is to pull a thread across the grain, and cut along this thread. This gives you a true edge. Then when you place the fabric down smooth (selvedges together) if that edge is not lined up (the selveges) on the end, you need to stretch the fabric on the bias all the way down until it is straight. This way there is no distortion. Now since I have been making quilts and my pieces are so small, not a problem, however if you are making borders, can be a problem if the weave is off.
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I do for large pieces only. Then I fold it double on the grain before cutting.
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I had a FQ that 'bowed' after washing. When I laid it down on the grid of my cutting board one corner was about 4" higher than the one 18" away.
As said above the fabric, is sometimes distorted when put on the bolt. It can be full of sizing and seems absolutely perfect while sewing with it. The trouble shows up after it's been washed and relaxes back to it's originally woven state. Some unexplained ripples are because of this. If you're lucky you can quilt it out. If not it might just look a bit homemade no matter what you try to do. If you've made a garment, the side seams may hang crooked and there is nothing you can do to correct it other than cut it down alot for a child or add to your quilt stash. |
My mother was a wonderful seamstress, she always taught me to tear fabric. I have often been distressed when I asked for a half yard of fabric got it home and really had barely a quarter yard of usable fabric because the grain was so off.
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I rip for large pieces but not as a general rule. I've tried the whole 'pull a thread' thing and quilting cotton is just too tightly woven for that to work for me. I usually just line up the selveges and wiggle until it's straight and then cut whatever the necessary chunk off the end to get it straight. Not always really true but usually close enough for me.
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Originally Posted by Kristin in ME
Trying to understand this- so, for instance, when I make the backing for my quilt, instead of cutting, cutting, cutting with my rotary cutter, I could just rip the whole thing down the length of it?? I understand that it would rip along the thread line, I'd just be so worried that I'd be distorting the fabric by stretching it...
I never even heard of ripping fabric- I'm already learning so much on this board! Fabric rips much easier than you'd think. Once you get it started (a little snip with the scissors is enough), it rips almost as easily as paper. You may still need to straighten the grain, but it has nothing to do with being distorted from ripping; it was distorted to begin with, which is *why* you rip--so you can *find* the grain and straighten it. Once you get your grainline, just tug the fabric along the bias to line it up properly (you might need some practice to get the hang of it). Once the fabric is squared up, it'll be much easier to work with and you'll have an easier time getting accurate cuts. |
There are so many finishes on our fabrics that sometimes they tear in a semi circle. I put my ruler on my fabric, cut and call it good. I do like to have my fabric given extra body with starch or sizing though
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For big pieces on the backing I rip, both directions it is so much easier than trying to cut the fabric :) I thought everyone did it that way.
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I also rip larger pieces. e first time someone ripped a large piece , I just cringed. Now I'm used to it. You can straighten smaller piece just by lining up the selvages til the fabric hangs without folds.
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Thanks so much for this thread! I'm learning (or in this case relearning) so many things here. :)
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Originally Posted by Tartan
I don't rip my fabric. I don't like how it distorts and separates the weave. If you are working with a plaid or check that had to be perfect I might. I sometimes will rip a huge yardage in half to make it more managable (too big a piece to rotary cut on mat).
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Originally Posted by mshollysd
The way I learned in Homeec is to pull a thread across the grain, and cut along this thread. This gives you a true edge. Then when you place the fabric down smooth (selvedges together) if that edge is not lined up (the selveges) on the end, you need to stretch the fabric on the bias all the way down until it is straight. This way there is no distortion. Now since I have been making quilts and my pieces are so small, not a problem, however if you are making borders, can be a problem if the weave is off.
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Fabric will only tear on the grain, whether vertical or horizontal.
Originally Posted by Butterfli19
I guess I don't understand how it doesn't make it more off grain. I mean, ripping something should distort the rest of the fabric, so doesn't ripping make it worse?
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If I want a good straight of grain, I rip. For instance, I also make banners for my church and forgot to rip the backing fabric one time. Well, that banner has wavy edges because it was not made on a true straight of grain. Drives me crazy every time it hangs in church, too. I've tried pressing, ironing, starching, etc. But a long "off grain" piece of fabric will just be wavy.
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Originally Posted by mshollysd
The way I learned in Homeec is to pull a thread across the grain, and cut along this thread. This gives you a true edge. Then when you place the fabric down smooth (selvedges together) if that edge is not lined up (the selveges) on the end, you need to stretch the fabric on the bias all the way down until it is straight. This way there is no distortion. Now since I have been making quilts and my pieces are so small, not a problem, however if you are making borders, can be a problem if the weave is off.
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I loved Home Ec but hated having to rip out my seams. That Home Ec teacher was the sewing police, or Nazi whichever. Her name was Miss Klinesausser and I still remember her even though I am almost 56 now. LOL
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I rip to find the grain line then I rotary cut..
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Everything I make is a little "off" so I don't bother. I wish I had to!
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I have ripped fabric but before I do rip it I cut a small slit that fallows the grain of the fabric. You can also pull a few threads across the fabric and that will square it up perfect then cut it across.
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I'm a ripper. I clean up any strings on the ripped edge with a rotary cutter, but I've honestly never, ever had a problem with the fabric "warping" or being damaged by a clean rip.
I don't have the patience for the thread-pulling method. LOL |
I only insist on absolute straight of grain if I am using large pieces, and then use the 'pulled thread method'. Because many modern fabrics are more loosely woven, you can ruin at least an inch of fabric next to the rip. I insist that my fabric is cut instead of ripped when purchasing it too. I am just finishing a top where the sashing is perfectly on grain and am having a terrible time with it fraying out.
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My aunt was a great seamstress - made all her own clothes and those for her daughters. She taught me to pull a thread across the width of the fabric, cut on that line and then use that as a "true" edge of the fabric. Her clothes were always beautiful - they hung so perfectly.
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This is so funny. I hear of this ripping fabric thinking it's a brand new concept and there you all have been ripping all along.
Wow. lol |
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