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denilynne 04-23-2011 05:52 AM

I found a quilt kit i want to buy it's $75.00 but it does not include the pattern, i have to spend another $25.00 to buy a book that has the pattern. Why don't they include the pattern with the kit, i don't understand.

carhop 04-23-2011 05:54 AM

at $75 I would not buy it unless it had the pattern with it. Boy any thing to get our money

debbieumphress 04-23-2011 05:56 AM

Most places do include the pattern and everything you need. If they are using this to make more money then I am sure there is a reason (?) although not a good one IMHO. LOL. YOu could always find the pattern yourself, not in the book maybe or check at Halfprice books, Amazon etc for a softy used book. Hope you find it. They must be the same who did the kit as wrote the book. Money issue???? Only other thing to so is to buy a kit you love also that has it all. Prices are so high now. I'm sure someone here will post the sites you can get it all and at great prices. I know of Stichin' Heaven and Fabric Cafe. Good luck. HUGS♥♥

sueisallaboutquilts 04-23-2011 05:57 AM

I would pass on it. That's crazy!!

DogHouseMom 04-23-2011 06:01 AM

How many total yards of fabric are included in the kit? Does it come close to the fabric price?

I agree in general though, what's a "kit" without the instructions. Include it all in one price.

sherriequilts 04-23-2011 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by DogHouseMom
How many total yards of fabric are included in the kit? Does it come close to the fabric price?

I agree in general though, what's a "kit" without the instructions. Include it all in one price.

ditto! and I have found amazing buys on Amazon for quilt books etc. Good luck.

JenniePenny 04-23-2011 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by denilynne
I found a quilt kit i want to buy it's $75.00 but it does not include the pattern, i have to spend another $25.00 to buy a book that has the pattern. Why don't they include the pattern with the kit, i don't understand.

I know how strapped everyone is. My guess (which is just an un-educated one) is if the pattern is included in a book with other patterns, then they can't make copies of just that pattern. I also believe they buy books from different suppliers than they buy fabrics.

I hope that you can do as Debbie suggested and see if you could find the book through a less expensive source.

denilynne 04-23-2011 06:27 AM

The pattern is not available unless i buy the book, i wrote to the company and ask them, they said nope gotta buy the book, so unless i can find the book cheaper or figure out the pattern myself guess i'll have to wait on this one.

pocoellie 04-23-2011 06:34 AM

I don't understand why a kit would be $75 and doesn't INCLUDE the pattern. I'd rather buy the pattern and not the kit or if the pattern is in a book, I'd buy the book.

familyfun 04-23-2011 06:46 AM

I hate how expensive kits are. I have seen so many that I would love to have but I think it would be cheaper to buy everything seperatly. Am I wrong?

EIQuilter 04-23-2011 06:48 AM

I don't know if $75 is a good price or not - have to figure out how much fabric is included. I can't say it's too much, because I don't know what you're actually paying for.

As far as the pattern is concerned, the only way it's available is in a book, right? So if they included the pattern with the kit, that would increase the price by $25, because they'd have to put the whole book in. Then what if somebody wanted to buy the kit but already had the book? They'd be complaining because you can't buy just the fabric!

There's nothing that says you HAVE to buy a kit. If you really want to make this particular quilt, can you either figure out the pattern on your own and buy your own yardage or buy the book and buy the yardage based on the directions in the book? Whatever you decide - good luck!

luvstitches 04-23-2011 06:52 AM

What is the book and the pattern name?
Nancy

bakermom 04-23-2011 07:02 AM

That is very frustrating. We found some "kits" like that at a recent quilt show. DD found one she liked-kind of pricey for her- and was going to buy it. The lady at the booth mentioned the pattern was extra so DD put it back and walked away. Since then we have located the fabric elsewhere and she has drawn up her own pattern.

If thats how they want to sell, fine, but the kits should be marked so you know what you're getting.

To me, a kit should include both fabric and pattern. Otherwise you're buying a fabric collection.

IAmCatOwned 04-23-2011 07:06 AM

Some people already own the book or pattern and resent or won't purchase a kit that includes it. The shop owner is damned if they do by others and damned by you if they don't. Give them a break. Just buy the pattern or book or don't buy the kit.

However, I DO think it should be clearly marked that the book or pattern is not included in the kit.

denilynne 04-23-2011 07:12 AM

The pattern is called Island Chain, and the book is Scrap-Basket Sensations by Kim Brackett. I found it cheaper at Acebooks online, but still don't know if i want it that bad. I'm not complaining just wondering why they wouldn't include the pattern. I don't know if i could figure out the pattern myself i'm still kinda new at this, not as knowledgable as some of you wonderful quilters, but i'm learning. This pattern is for a 53x64 quilt in batiks. doesn't say how much fabric that is

Shelley 04-23-2011 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by IAmCatOwned
Some people already own the book or pattern and resent or won't purchase a kit that includes it. The shop owner is damned if they do by others and damned by you if they don't. Give them a break. Just buy the pattern or book or don't buy the kit.

However, I DO think it should be clearly marked that the book or pattern is not included in the kit.

And, if they included the book, the kit would be $100. It is what it is. Take it or leave it. Or buy the book and pick out your own fabrics!!

BETTY62 04-23-2011 07:39 AM

I agree with you. If it's a quilt kit it should include the pattern.

katier825 04-23-2011 07:48 AM

I'd buy the book and make your own "kit".

QuiltSage 04-23-2011 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by IAmCatOwned
Some people already own the book or pattern and resent or won't purchase a kit that includes it. The shop owner is damned if they do by others and damned by you if they don't. Give them a break. Just buy the pattern or book or don't buy the kit.

However, I DO think it should be clearly marked that the book or pattern is not included in the kit.

I agree with you. They can't include the pattern because they don't own the copyright. To include the pattern would be ILLEGAL and unethical. But they may be selling the book and some of their customers requested they put together a kit to make some of the patterns in the book. And it must have been obvious that the pattern wasn't included in the kit because the Poster knew that, so she didn't buy the kit. While I understand the frustration, I also appreciate, as a designer, when people respect the copyright law and other people's intellectual property.

IAmCatOwned 04-23-2011 08:02 AM

Sure. I get it. :) I'm the same way. It's $16.01 at Amazon. You might be able to figure it out, but I can tell you from past experience that if you loved, loved, loved the sample, you are best off just splurging for the book. I don't buy kits because they aren't usually the size that I need. They are either lap size or queen or bigger and I have only two family members who want queen sized and I have too many lap size already. On the plus side, if you don't dither too long, you can resell the book and get about half the $$ you paid for it.

Hope that helps,
Stephanie

Barb44 04-23-2011 08:04 AM

I've never bought a kit. I like doing my own thing. So, does the kit include just the fabric for the top? If so, it seems very expensive to me for 53x64 quilt, even in batiks. For $75 I could make a king size top. I could buy 10.5 yards of batiks at Connecting Threads.

I agree with those who said to pick your own fabrics. It would be cheaper and picking fabric is the most fun.

clynns 04-23-2011 08:11 AM

What's the name of the book that you need for the pattern? I'm sure that there is someone on here who has it.

quilter1943 04-23-2011 08:15 AM

Buy the book and shop around for the fabric you want. Then you'll have other patterns too and probably get fabric for the quilt for less than $75. Some of this is totally out of control, like they think we're idiots and will buy anything as long as it says "quilt" on it.

Originally Posted by pocoellie
I don't understand why a kit would be $75 and doesn't INCLUDE the pattern. I'd rather buy the pattern and not the kit or if the pattern is in a book, I'd buy the book.


Mariposa 04-23-2011 08:16 AM

I love her book! Do try looking at Connecting Threads. I have found books at 20%-40% off. :)

LivelyLady 04-23-2011 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by familyfun
I hate how expensive kits are. I have seen so many that I would love to have but I think it would be cheaper to buy everything seperatly. Am I wrong?

I feel the same way :D

thepolyparrot 04-23-2011 08:55 AM

I think a quilt "kit" should include a pattern - otherwise it should be a "bundle" or something.

What's a "kit" without the kaboodle? ;)

But I will say that this is a WONDERFUL book and well worth the cost - you may find a LOT of patterns in the book that you want to make. I did and I don't even save my scraps!

I would skip the kit and buy the book. Really - it's that good. :)

bakermom 04-23-2011 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by QuiltSage

Originally Posted by IAmCatOwned
Some people already own the book or pattern and resent or won't purchase a kit that includes it. The shop owner is damned if they do by others and damned by you if they don't. Give them a break. Just buy the pattern or book or don't buy the kit.

However, I DO think it should be clearly marked that the book or pattern is not included in the kit.

I agree with you. They can't include the pattern because they don't own the copyright. To include the pattern would be ILLEGAL and unethical. But they may be selling the book and some of their customers requested they put together a kit to make some of the patterns in the book. And it must have been obvious that the pattern wasn't included in the kit because the Poster knew that, so she didn't buy the kit. While I understand the frustration, I also appreciate, as a designer, when people respect the copyright law and other people's intellectual property.

In most cases I would agree. This seller had designed the pattern herself so she could have included it without issue.

TonnieLoree 04-23-2011 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by denilynne
The pattern is not available unless i buy the book, i wrote to the company and ask them, they said nope gotta buy the book, so unless i can find the book cheaper or figure out the pattern myself guess i'll have to wait on this one.

I would make a note of this company, and steer away from any more of their incomplete offers.

cabinqltr 04-23-2011 10:13 AM

If you want the book look at BookDepository.com , Type book name and author I see they have it for $15.99, a $9.00 saving and free shipping. Just trying to help a fellow quilter. Ruth

psandberg 04-23-2011 10:24 AM

If you know the name of the book, try your local library. They may have the book in their collection. If not, they may be able to borrow it from another library for free or a nominal shipping cost.

MadQuilter 04-23-2011 10:39 AM

The whole idea about buying a kit is that you have EVERYTHING together. That would include the pattern. I don't purchase kits - generally. Only did once - a McKenna Ryan - and it was A LOT more than $75 (she swallows hard thinking about it)

You say that the kit is from a book. The vendor is not allowed to copy the book.

JackieG 04-23-2011 10:41 AM

Sounds like a way to get money from unsuspecting consumers. I'd pass on it.

dixiebelle162002 04-23-2011 10:42 AM

It shouldn't even be called at "KIT" if it doesn't contain the pattern. :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

Melrose R 04-23-2011 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by dixiebelle162002
It shouldn't even be called at "KIT" if it doesn't contain the pattern. :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

My thoughts exactly!

denilynne 04-23-2011 12:19 PM

Thank you for all the input on this i think i'll try picking my own fabric ( not to good at it yet but what the heck, gotta try) i found the book for $13.00 so wish me luck, hope i didn't offend anyone with the question, i was just trying to get info which you all gave me, thanks again. Denise

lonestardreams 04-23-2011 12:41 PM

How great that you found the book. Have fun choosing fabrics. I'm very new to quilting and that is so hard for me.

I checked the book on Amazon.com and it is now on my wish list. Of course, every quilt book I look at seems to end up on that list.

Have a great evening and weekend.

watterstide 04-23-2011 12:45 PM

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http://store.quiltersqtrs.com/stores...&Item_ID=18748

this kit is for 85 bucks, maybe IT includes the pattern..

it is a beauty!

jdiane318 04-23-2011 12:47 PM

I would pass simply because most places that are reputable do include the pattern. In this day and age, our money needs to spread further and to have to spend more would cause me to lose my appetite.

crafty_linda_b 04-23-2011 12:53 PM

I don't think that kits are a good deal. They have to charge more to pay someone to cut the materials for the kits. With all the free patterns available why would you want to buy a kit anyway? Unless you are taking a class and the teacher has the kits available with the pattern too. Sorry I am not a kit person.
Happy Stitchin' crafty_linda_b

belmer 04-23-2011 01:01 PM

I say... MOVE on and find another quilt and pattern you want to make. We Quilters are always finding somthing we like better down the road anyways. I would never pay that much for a kit unless of course, they are including all the backing fabric and batting for it too!


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