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Boonedox 06-14-2013 12:04 PM

Does your machine bite?
 
Do y'all use a Bob (starter) when piecing? I'm so in the habit that I don't even know if my machine would eat the fabric or not. So does your machine bite? What do you call your starters?

DebraK 06-14-2013 12:06 PM

leaders and enders

nhweaver 06-14-2013 12:08 PM

Only when it is hungry does it take a bite. I have to remember to use a Bob - good advice.

sap 06-14-2013 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Boonedox (Post 6122244)
Do y'all use a Bob (starter) when piecing? I'm so in the habit that I don't even know if my machine would eat the fabric or not. So does your machine bite? What do you call your starters?

only if I put my finger the needle

RavenLunaStitch 06-14-2013 12:39 PM

Mine can bite if I'm not paying attention where I stopped it but I use leaders and enders for two other reasons: I will eventually get a quilt out of them and I also find that using them saves me lots of thread that I would otherwise pull, cut and throw away. I like watching my pile of leader and ender pieces growing while I'm sewing something else!

Tartan 06-14-2013 12:39 PM

I call mine a spider when I use one. On triangles I usually just start sewing 1/4 inch from the start and backstitch to the edge and then continue.

Dolphyngyrl 06-14-2013 12:40 PM

no my machine doesn't eat fabric so I don't use leaders

Latrinka 06-14-2013 12:42 PM

Nope, mine doesn't bite, so no need for leaders, enders.

grammy17 06-14-2013 01:26 PM

I do not understand how you get a quilt from your leaders and enders. I have lots of little pieces. Just trim off 1/8" and keep sewing a line 1/4" from the edge until it is too small and it goes in the doggie bag with the rest of its pieces.

auntpiggylpn 06-14-2013 02:07 PM

I use a scrap piece of fabric too. If I get cocky and try to start a seam without it, my machine always knocks me down a peg! :D It's pretty much a habit for me too

QuiltnNan 06-14-2013 02:18 PM

i call them leaders and enders, my machine doesn't usually bite

Scraplady 06-14-2013 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by grammy17 (Post 6122393)
I do not understand how you get a quilt from your leaders and enders. I have lots of little pieces. Just trim off 1/8" and keep sewing a line 1/4" from the edge until it is too small and it goes in the doggie bag with the rest of its pieces.

Instead of just sewing onto and off of a scrap for leaders/enders, you would actually be piecing scraps or patches together. Bonnie Hunter has a system for doing this Oof course!), but I have not tried it yet. And I don't trim my leader/ender pieces, just keep sewing over them till they're so full of thread they're too thick and toss them. I mostly use them to conserve thread, my newer machine only "bites" if it's in a bad mood!

Krisb 06-14-2013 03:30 PM

My straight stitch plate hasn't eaten anything yet, but.....

Dina 06-14-2013 04:08 PM

I call that tiny piece of fabric a starter. I was taught to use one when I started quilting 3 years ago, but I rarely use one. My machine doesn't usually fuss.

Dina

nativetexan 06-14-2013 04:10 PM

that used to happen with my Singer but not so much with my Janome. I have a plate on that came with the machine and so far, so good. The singer had two plates. one for straight stitching and another for zig zag or more.

Mariposa 06-14-2013 04:34 PM

my machine usually behaves, so I don't use the leaders & enders idea, but want to, to help work on a scrap quilt for someday :)

Glenda m 06-14-2013 10:29 PM

Most of my machines don't 'bite', but I use a leader and ender to save thread.

DOTTYMO 06-14-2013 10:33 PM

We call leaders etc, pigs.
I have a selection of machines and don't use them I prefer to just hold ends as I start.

cathylynn 06-14-2013 10:52 PM

my Brother doesn't bite but I use starters and enders to save thread.

RavenLunaStitch 06-14-2013 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by grammy17 (Post 6122393)
I do not understand how you get a quilt from your leaders and enders. I have lots of little pieces. Just trim off 1/8" and keep sewing a line 1/4" from the edge until it is too small and it goes in the doggie bag with the rest of its pieces.

I am sewing two scrap blocks together as leaders/enders. The smallest scrap I keep in my "food chain" is 2" blocks. Anything smaller than that gets used as stuffing or is tossed. I always cut as many 2" squares from my scraps as possible. I keep them all mixed together in a drawer next to my sewing machine. I just grab two random pieces at a time to sew together. 2" blocks are the perfect size for leaders/enders and I really do save a lot of thread by using them. After they are sewn together and clipped off of my chained pieces I just throw them into a bin to be pressed and sewn together later. It will probably take forever and a day to get a quilt out of them, but little by little they are adding up quickly!

RavenLunaStitch 06-15-2013 11:40 AM

I posted pictures of my leader & ender sewing setup in "Pictures" under "Mission Organization" so maybe my description will make more sense!

bearisgray 06-15-2013 11:56 AM

I think using them helps me conserve a lot on thread!

irishrose 06-15-2013 01:00 PM

I rarely start a new seam - I plan my piecing so that I have something ready to go under the presser foot at all times so my blocks are my leaders and enders. My 301 doesn't eat fabric, but I sew like this to cut down on thread tails. The quilt back is so much neater.

Luv Quilts and Cats 06-15-2013 01:21 PM

My machine bites sometimes. I use a leader.

Lisa_wanna_b_quilter 06-15-2013 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by Dolphyngyrl (Post 6122312)
no my machine doesn't eat fabric so I don't use leaders

I'm with Dolphyngyrl. No leaders and enders needed with my Brother machines. Also the thread cutting feature wastes very little thread. I don't have to pull a tail up before I start sewing.

KwiltyKahy 06-15-2013 06:25 PM

Most of mine don't bite but I use leaders and enders too. One of these days they will make it into a quilt.

brenwalt 06-16-2013 04:13 AM

Use a "single stitch" sole plate - that prevents the biting....

w1613s 06-16-2013 05:32 AM

What machines are "biting"? I have an Elna 62C, a Singer 99 treadle, a Bernina 1630 and a Singer 403 Special. None of them bite. I am sorta looking for an embroidery machine and would dearly like to miss the bites if possible.

Thanks for listening.

Pat

lynnefaye 06-16-2013 06:40 AM

My elderly Bernina 930 (mechical) sews a perfect stitch from the start. Much newer Janome 6600, computerized, makes a thread mess every start so I start with a tag (fabric). I am wondering about those who are sewing quilt pieces together for their leaders, don't you get a thread mess at the beginning of those? On my Janome I would need a tag for the leader...........don't quit get how this works.

Marysewfun 06-16-2013 07:22 AM

I am thinking of trying the leaders and enders - my Brother machine has the auto cut - so I, too, don't feel like I am wasting. Sometimes at the beginning of a seam I will start down about a 1/4 inch and back stitch before going on.

To Lynnefay - I think the idea is the last item you sewed, leave the "ender in your machine (cutting off the project you just sewed) and that "ender" now becomes your "leader" for the next project/sewing. Clear as mud? Anyone else - - -

Marysewfun

MargeD 06-16-2013 08:45 AM

I do use leaders, particularly if I'm piecing triangles, as my machine has been known to chew/bite the fabric from time to time. I know if I changed my throat plate to the single hole plate it would happen less, however, I frequently switch from straight to zig-zag stitching, so having the larger throat saves needles and my patience.

caspharm 06-16-2013 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by grammy17 (Post 6122393)
I do not understand how you get a quilt from your leaders and enders. I have lots of little pieces. Just trim off 1/8" and keep sewing a line 1/4" from the edge until it is too small and it goes in the doggie bag with the rest of its pieces.

Have you seen Bonnie Hunter's website (www.quiltville.com)? She makes quilts out of those and has a book called "Leaders and Enders."

teric 06-16-2013 10:20 AM

My Janome 11K does not bite/chew....it goobles...even with a straight stitch plate..I forget to start with my leader until the mess is made than remember...I now keep a sticky note on machine to remind me....

Just Barb 06-16-2013 01:21 PM

Yes, I use starters and enders. They save me a lot of thread and if my machine decides to act goofy, it saves my fabric. I had never heard of them until I was in a class that was taught by my local quilting store owner. She asked were my "thread bunny" was. I just looked at her...duh? She said that she had dust bunnies under her bed, so she used a small piece of fabric at the beginning of sewing and end so that she wouldn't have to clean up by her sewing machine. So, yes, I use my thread bunny for sewing. Hugs

Raine54RN 06-16-2013 02:25 PM

What's a leader and what's an Enders and how does a machine bite? I sewed my finger once and that bit but otherwise I'm confused!

raine

littlebitoheaven 06-16-2013 03:29 PM

My Pfaff and my Brothers both bit...bite? I bought a single-hole plate for my Pfaff. It helped but then I forgot and tried to zig zag and Oh, boy! So to answer your question. I call them "starters" and "stoppers". They are a tremendous help to me. Great question.

Pepita 06-16-2013 09:00 PM

I have heard the term leaders and enders, but I heard 'hugs' first and that is usually what I call it.

jmoore 06-17-2013 02:54 AM

Alright, I'll bite... what is a Bob starter? I am always learning something new on the QB so I'll be anxious to hear what it is.

misseva 06-18-2013 08:37 AM

I think Bob is another name for starter/ender if I understood the previous post.

mckwilter 06-18-2013 08:53 AM

I called them all leaders, because as someone else said, the ender for the group you are stitching now becomes the leader for the next group you start stitching. But I am a secretary in the "real" (as opposed to quilting) world, so started using the terms headers and footers, which are word processing terms for the top and bottom margins of a page.


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