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nhweaver 05-27-2013 03:26 PM

Elmer's Glue Messy Story
 
When I was a kid, I was never a neat person when it came to arts and crafts. I got more glue on me and my fingers, and never could get my project finished without stickies all over my projects. I haven't changed much. I just tried to use Elmer's glue (my first time on a quilt) to glue back the cut edges on a quilting label. Well, couldn't get the glue to stick the cotton to the pellon, used more glue. Pressed with fingers, fingers stuck to the fabric, fabric didn't stick to the pellon. Placed a clear piece of acrylic to weigh down the label, label stuck to acrylic, fabric did not stick to the pellon.

What am I doing wrong?

TerryQuilter 05-27-2013 03:51 PM

Are you pressing with the iron after you glue the cotton to the pellon? The heat from the iron dries the glue and it sticks unless you pull it apart. You don't need to use a lot of glue, a very thin line works fine. Some people use small dots of glue and that works also. I use Elmer's all the time and never have any problem with it not sticking.

quilttiger 05-27-2013 04:00 PM

It also helps to allow time for the glue to dry (if you are using the iron) before working on the project. If you are hand sewing the binding to the back for a quilt, place the glue where the needle would not be use. It can be quite a bear to hand sew through dried glue. However, it is not difficult to sew by machine through the glue.

EasyPeezy 05-27-2013 04:35 PM

I don't think it's your fault. I did a wall-hanging with Pellon and the glue didn't stick at
all.

quiltingcandy 05-27-2013 04:50 PM

I just used the glue for the first time to make pillow cases. I used the glue to keep the part folded in so I could sew it down by machine instead of by hand. It worked like a charm - very thin line, then ironed the fabric to dry it - it wasn't totally dry, and if I had pulled on it, it would have come apart. It held just enough so I could sew a straight line and no pins to poke me or break in the machine. It was funny because I was making 4 pillow cases, and the first one I pinned and it was a royal pain so thought, this is it - this is the time to try the glue and it worked like a charm! I was so excited I was telling everyone that would listen. No idea how it would hold to pellon - but it was totally wonderful on cotton. The clue is ironing it to dry it.

Nammie to 7 05-27-2013 04:59 PM

That would be my luck in using glue!

Emma S 05-27-2013 05:05 PM

I've used Elmers glue for sandwiching with great success. Maybe it is the Pellon that is making the difference. I am in the same category with glueing, I washed my hand at least ten times during the process and still was sticking to everything in sight.

Jan in VA 05-27-2013 08:26 PM

I immediately saw Tim Conrad in my mind doing a similar "trick" on an old Carol Burnett Show!! I'll bet his was much funnier than yours felt to you. :rolleyes:

Jan in VA

kathyjg 05-28-2013 06:31 AM

I use glue sticks all of the time and I've had no problem but the sticks can be expensive. I read the other day where some of you buy the glue in the larger containers--if you do that, do you brush it on? I have been thinking about trying a brush as I have the mess sometimes even with the stick.

sparkys_mom 05-29-2013 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by kathyjg (Post 6089852)
I use glue sticks all of the time and I've had no problem but the sticks can be expensive. I read the other day where some of you buy the glue in the larger containers--if you do that, do you brush it on? I have been thinking about trying a brush as I have the mess sometimes even with the stick.

I just finished basting a quilt with Elmer's. I used it straight out of the bottle, letting each side dry overnight. It worked great, but I think next time I will use a little brush to smooth out some of the "lumps". It doesn't take a lot of glue and I was thrilled with the result - bye, bye pins! There was a discussion going on earlier this week about chevron quilts so I posted mine and didn't think to mention about the glue basting. Here's the quilt - it is the second one with the tall blue flowers in front. http://www.quiltingboard.com/picture...s-t222207.html
The glue washed right out and you would never know I did it that way.

sparkys_mom 05-29-2013 04:52 AM

Oh, and I also forgot to mention where I found the instructions for glue basting. I think someone had posted this earlier on the QB and I finally decided to try it. Here's the link:
http://californiaquilting.blogspot.c...l-glue-to.html

tessagin 05-29-2013 06:06 AM

Don't feel bad! I can make a mess cleaning house! I have found less is better when it comes to using any type of glue. It just oozes out and that's when one gets it all over themselves and everything else but what it is suppose to adhere to.

OKLAHOMA PEACH 05-29-2013 06:24 AM

This time of the year glue seems to be cheaper, bought 3 stiks for a dollar at the dollar store. Less is best on the liquid, i would suppose that the glue would need time to soak into the pellon.

PenniF 05-29-2013 07:03 AM

I cut up cereal boxes into about 2 x 2 squares and use them to gently smooth over my glue lines to eliminate "lumps and bumps"....spreads the glue and seems to help shorten dry time too.....then just toss the cardboard pieces in the trash.

onaemtnest 05-29-2013 07:12 AM

I keep a wet terry cloth next to where I'm using Elmer's and wipe my fingers of glue frequently during the process. I read on here that "A dot is a lot" and after over gluing my first binding I learned that too much glue makes it nearly impossible to hand bind :0)

Now I bought a gallon of Elmer's through Sam's club (with shipping under $15.00 (
WARNING: I thought Wal Mart had it less expensive but noticed Wal Mart's gallon wasn't washable
)

I sandwiched my quilt I watered down my glue and drizzled back and forth on the batting.... in Picasso styled frenzied strings.... then spread those lines/stings into a thin layer with a 3" wide paint brush...WOWZER'S what a great tip learned from this board...no bumps ~ no lumps. (Wonder if the miracle brush would work on my thighs and bum ridding them of lumps and bumps???? I digress) I then ironed the sandwich dry and then repeated for the backing fabric.

Another tip if your iron starts to drag because of glue seeping through the fabric just keep a
(used) dryer sheet next to the iron and run that sticky iron plate back and forth over the dryer sheet VOILA slick as new.

I use a glue stick on pellon to fold my quilt label fabric and haven't seemed to have any difficulties...again I press to dry...remembering not to use too much as you'll have a dickens of a time hand sewing through thick glue...I will use an artist's brush from now on since I have the the full gallon of glue to use up.

BuzzinBumble 05-29-2013 07:37 AM

Oh poor you! It would be humorous if it wasn't so frustrating for you. :( I bet it was the Pellon though.
I'm an arts and crafts klutz when it comes to sharp or hot things. My art teacher in high school had a permanent pass written out for me to go to the nurse's office.
Jan I LOVE Tim Conway!

ScrappyAZ 05-29-2013 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by PenniF (Post 6091891)
I cut up cereal boxes into about 2 x 2 squares and use them to gently smooth over my glue lines to eliminate "lumps and bumps"....spreads the glue and seems to help shorten dry time too.....then just toss the cardboard pieces in the trash.

Great idea! Love being able to repurpose what I'd normally throw away.

newbiequilter 05-29-2013 07:51 AM

You are using Elmer's School Glue?

teacherbailey 05-29-2013 11:48 AM

Buying Elmer's glue in large quantities
 

Originally Posted by kathyjg (Post 6089852)
I use glue sticks all of the time and I've had no problem but the sticks can be expensive. I read the other day where some of you buy the glue in the larger containers--if you do that, do you brush it on? I have been thinking about trying a brush as I have the mess sometimes even with the stick.

I have done this but my trick is to keep an old glue bottle to keep refilling. Just keep one of your favorite size, mark it if it's a different product than on the label, and refill as needed. I like an 8 oz bottle best. Bought a 1/2 gallon of Elmers School Glue a few years ago and that bottle lasted forever.....until I needed it at work (I'm a teacher) and the kids finished it for me.

Friday1961 05-29-2013 01:26 PM

I've used Elmer's Washable School glue for matching then sewing seams while piecing and love it! I've used it to hold binding and love it! I just used it to sandwich part of a quilt (when I ran out of spray baste) and didn't love it so much. It takes awhile to dry (quilt is too big to iron sandwich dry) and it makes hard globs in places. Also, squeezing that bottle to get a fine stream is hard work, as crazy as that sounds. If I could find a way to spray or paint it on, I might like using it more.

On the other hand, the spray baste also drives me crazy because I get overspray on the excess batting and backing (2 to 3 inches beyond the top) and on the table, floor, etc. I can wash the table and mop the floor but I hate the stickiness of the spray on the batting and backing while I'm quilting. I'm now using a piece of fabric or newspaper to block the spray but that's a nuisance, too. I think I may just not like the sandwiching part. But then who does? ;)

Friday1961 05-29-2013 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by onaemtnest (Post 6091929)
I keep a wet terry cloth next to where I'm using Elmer's and wipe my fingers of glue frequently during the process. I read on here that "A dot is a lot" and after over gluing my first binding I learned that too much glue makes it nearly impossible to hand bind :0)

Now I bought a gallon of Elmer's through Sam's club (with shipping under $15.00 (
WARNING: I thought Wal Mart had it less expensive but noticed Wal Mart's gallon wasn't washable
)

I sandwiched my quilt I watered down my glue and drizzled back and forth on the batting.... in Picasso styled frenzied strings.... then spread those lines/stings into a thin layer with a 3" wide paint brush...WOWZER'S what a great tip learned from this board...no bumps ~ no lumps. (Wonder if the miracle brush would work on my thighs and bum ridding them of lumps and bumps???? I digress) I then ironed the sandwich dry and then repeated for the backing fabric.

Another tip if your iron starts to drag because of glue seeping through the fabric just keep a
(used) dryer sheet next to the iron and run that sticky iron plate back and forth over the dryer sheet VOILA slick as new.

I use a glue stick on pellon to fold my quilt label fabric and haven't seemed to have any difficulties...again I press to dry...remembering not to use too much as you'll have a dickens of a time hand sewing through thick glue...I will use an artist's brush from now on since I have the the full gallon of glue to use up.

Great idea! If I'd read these posts first, I probably wouldn't have posted myself. I'm not a patient person about some things--but incredibly dogged about others--but spreading the glue in this fashion or with a piece of cardboard, as someone else mentioned, sounds like the way to go. Thanks for these tips!

EasyPeezy 05-29-2013 03:45 PM

I would NOT recommend "painting" the glue all over. It makes the sandwich very stiff
and difficult to maneuver through the machine. It's like holding a large piece of cardboard.
I prefer to apply the glue in waves and smear the glue into the batting then use the
iron to dry.

LadyElisabeth 05-29-2013 04:26 PM

I haven't been successful with elmer's glue with my quilting, but that's just me.

BillieJean 05-29-2013 04:54 PM

What is pellon

SueSew 05-29-2013 06:55 PM

Cheer up, I too am challenged with small-motor skills. At least it wasn't epoxy! That is how preservation cvrpentry is done and it is worse than Superglue. At least Elmers washes out. The guys who do the epoxies say when the going gets sticky keep your hands off...

I suggest you use a needle and thread.

My rule is do no harm, and you can't beat a needle and thread for removing mistakes.

Pepita 05-29-2013 10:14 PM

Isn't Elmers glue--even school glue Poly vinyl something or another. I have never had luck gluing plastic to plastic. Most of the fuseables are a form of plastic as well.

sherryl1 05-30-2013 06:03 AM

doesn't pellon do the sticking?why are you using glue with pellon?am I missing something here?

aeble 05-30-2013 10:43 AM

I bet you it's the pellon causing issues not the glue. I had a friend try using pellon strips for waxing instead of her regular muslin and it caused her all kinds of issues.

quiltingnonie 05-30-2013 05:53 PM

I watched a video of a lady using Elmer's washable glue on a quilt binding. Looked so easy. But I also noticed that she had a special tip for her glue bottle that dispensed the glue in a very fine stream. I have looked several places to find one of those, to no avail.

Mariah 05-30-2013 06:05 PM

I used the Elmer's Glue on some small projects, and worked great, and got my confidence up. Used it on a table topper, and worked great. Then I wanted to get my lace with the holes to string ribbon in on my doll quilt, and sewing it turned out crooked. So, I used the E. Glue and it was great. Then it came time to use the lace around the outside edge as planned, and it was great. It turned out beautiful, if I have to say so myself, and my partner loved it! I warned her not to wash it--Satin and all. My best suggestion from all of this is to put some glue in a dish, dilute with water--very slight amount, and use a pastry brush. Let it dry between gluing the different parts of your project. Much easier than trying to get a straight seam sewn on it, with the Satin snagging.Mariah.

tlpa 06-03-2013 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Jan in VA (Post 6089213)
I immediately saw Tim Conrad in my mind doing a similar "trick" on an old Carol Burnett Show!! I'll bet his was much funnier than yours felt to you. :rolleyes:

Jan in VA

I was thinking the same thing...once you get it straightened out hopefully you can laugh at it!


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