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Gerbie 09-14-2010 07:06 AM

I know there have been several posts in the past on this subject, but I need to add this to all others. Sat. when I was in Hancocks, my husband had to leave the store, because something in the store was bothering his allergies. The floor manager was cutting my fabric at the time and related this story to me about washing fabric. She has a friend who was sewing and cleaning up in the evening when she scratched her finger on the needle in her machine. The skin wasn't broken, so she didn't think anything about it. The finger begin to show some infection a day or so later and she went to her doctor. He put her in the hospital with a staff infection. He asked her what she was doing and when she told him, the Dr. told her to always wash all of her fab. before using it in any way, because of the dyes and what ever else might be on it, since most of the fab. comes from overseas now. Their processes may not be the most sanitary. She spent 5 days in the hospital and almost lost her finger the manager told me. She (the manager) saw the finger after the hospital stay and said it looked horrible, her finger had split open and really looked bad. SO PLEASE folks take the time and effort to WASH your fab. before using it. We just can't be too careful, and we don't want any of our other sewing friends to have any problems. I almost always wash mine, but I certainly will wash any of it now.

sueisallaboutquilts 09-14-2010 07:09 AM

Wow, that's incredible! I think I will start doing the same!
Thanks for the info.

wolfkitty 09-14-2010 07:14 AM

I automatically put new fabric in the laundry pile. Now I have another reason!

kat112000 09-14-2010 07:15 AM

Man, I never washed my fabrics before, but I sure will do it from here on in!! I am always pricking my fingers!!!

Jan in VA 09-14-2010 07:16 AM

OMIGOSH! After of 30 years of washing and not washing fabric, it never occurred to me to think of overseas, 'dirty' environments, multiple hands handling, infections and germs, ALONG with the yucky dyes and starches and finishes and other chemicals that make me feel all gummy-eyed and itchy! My washer will definitely be getting more of a workout these days!

UUUUUKEY!!!

Jan in VA

nativetexan 09-14-2010 07:51 AM

ugh. Lady Ga Ga wore raw meat- talk about germs everywhere!!! i'd go behind her with an anti septic spray!

Prism99 09-14-2010 08:18 AM

That sounds extreme to me. Staph is a bacterial infection you can get from touching almost anything someone else has touched. I think it would make more sense to advise someone to wash their hands frequently.

Of course, there are people who are allergic to some of the chemicals used to finish fabric; those people need to wash fabrics before handling them. However, allergies and staph are two different problems.

justwannaquilt 09-14-2010 08:48 AM

Money is alot dirtier than fabric is and there is no way I am putting money in the washing machine! Next time you hold a dollar bill in your hands think about how many stipper buttcracks its been in. Are you going to wash it? I guess I just don't worry about stuff like this but really there is bad stuff every where you go, in everything you touch. NOT JUST FABRIC!

Originally Posted by Prism99
That sounds extreme to me. Staph is a bacterial infection you can get from touching almost anything someone else has touched. I think it would make more sense to advise someone to wash their hands frequently.

Of course, there are people who are allergic to some of the chemicals used to finish fabric; those people need to wash fabrics before handling them. However, allergies and staph are two different problems.

The only fabric I wash is swap fabric for this reason!

quiltluvr 09-14-2010 09:05 AM

I have a tendency to think for me when I worked with fabric, it was after the holiday fabric came in. It didn't "feel" right but not long after I developed an inflamed rash all over my face that was beyond itchy and kind of burned. Couldn't wear makeup or anything. Didn't have insurance but was able to find a kind dermatologist who prescribed the meds that helped. Ended up being off for three weeks while it got under control and cleared up.
That was my first and only holiday season there and never had any problems again.

I've always been a fabric washer regardless but mine is motivated by bleeding color dyes than anything else.

Lady Shivesa 09-14-2010 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by justwannaquilt
Next time you hold a dollar bill in your hands think about how many stipper buttcracks its been in. Are you going to wash it?


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm sorry, but that line totally made me crack up laughing (no pun intended?), although it's kinda gross to think about. ;)

I don't wash any of my fabric, because most of what I have was given to me and is smaller, almost scrap size. Well, that and I've never been very concerned about germs. I was raised on a farm, and, well, germs have just never bothered me.

With that said, I do think it's a different matter entirely if you're doing something for a swap.

dforesee 09-14-2010 09:38 AM

You've made a believer out of me - last thing I need is a staff infection!

amandasgramma 09-14-2010 09:45 AM

Okay - I'm convinced!!!! Might also explain my weird allergy problems!!! thanks for the info!

Colbaltjars62 09-14-2010 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by justwannaquilt
Money is alot dirtier than fabric is and there is no way I am putting money in the washing machine! Next time you hold a dollar bill in your hands think about how many stipper buttcracks its been in. Are you going to wash it? I guess I just don't worry about stuff like this but really there is bad stuff every where you go, in everything you touch. NOT JUST FABRIC!

Originally Posted by Prism99
That sounds extreme to me. Staph is a bacterial infection you can get from touching almost anything someone else has touched. I think it would make more sense to advise someone to wash their hands frequently.

Of course, there are people who are allergic to some of the chemicals used to finish fabric; those people need to wash fabrics before handling them. However, allergies and staph are two different problems.

The only fabric I wash is swap fabric for this reason!

ROFLMAO @ Danni !!!!!
OMG your right!!!!
Plus did you know that all US currency has cocaine residue on it too?
I do not wash all of my fabrics because I want the crispness of the sizing when I cut and sew. I will wash when it is a fabric which may bleed. I think if someone is THAT worried about germs then perhaps they do need to wash everything...
The woman in question did not nessessarily get the Staph from the fabric or needle. It floats in the air, on steering wheels,cell phones,grocery store doors etc.
Proper hand washing is the best way to avoid infections, but sometimes even that doesn't work. It is the risk you take when you go out in public. Yes, I agree that third world countries are not as clean as we would like them to be, but I have seen some places in our own country that I'd shower after visiting as well.
I think that washing fabric or not is a choice that we each make for our own reasons.
:lol:

BABAREEBA 09-14-2010 12:52 PM

[quote=justwannaquilt]Money is alot dirtier than fabric is and there is no way I am putting money in the washing machine! Next time you hold a dollar bill in your hands think about how many stipper buttcracks its been in. Are you going to wash it? I guess I just don't worry about stuff like this but really there is bad stuff every where you go, in everything you touch. NOT JUST FABRIC!

LMBO!! Danni, that is so funny. I've known money is rather dirty, but I didn't quite have the visual..........yuck!! I'm using my credit card only.

Mattee 09-14-2010 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Colbaltjars62

Originally Posted by justwannaquilt
Money is alot dirtier than fabric is and there is no way I am putting money in the washing machine! Next time you hold a dollar bill in your hands think about how many stipper buttcracks its been in. Are you going to wash it? I guess I just don't worry about stuff like this but really there is bad stuff every where you go, in everything you touch. NOT JUST FABRIC!

Originally Posted by Prism99
That sounds extreme to me. Staph is a bacterial infection you can get from touching almost anything someone else has touched. I think it would make more sense to advise someone to wash their hands frequently.

Of course, there are people who are allergic to some of the chemicals used to finish fabric; those people need to wash fabrics before handling them. However, allergies and staph are two different problems.

The only fabric I wash is swap fabric for this reason!

ROFLMAO @ Danni !!!!!
OMG your right!!!!
Plus did you know that all US currency has cocaine residue on it too?
I do not wash all of my fabrics because I want the crispness of the sizing when I cut and sew. I will wash when it is a fabric which may bleed. I think if someone is THAT worried about germs then perhaps they do need to wash everything...
The woman in question did not nessessarily get the Staph from the fabric or needle. It floats in the air, on steering wheels,cell phones,grocery store doors etc.
Proper hand washing is the best way to avoid infections, but sometimes even that doesn't work. It is the risk you take when you go out in public. Yes, I agree that third world countries are not as clean as we would like them to be, but I have seen some places in our own country that I'd shower after visiting as well.
I think that washing fabric or not is a choice that we each make for our own reasons.
:lol:

I agree completely about the messes that can be found in our own country. Lack of sanitation is not exclusive to third world nations. Plus, as others have pointed out, staph and allergies are two different things, and I think it's far more likely her staph came from her money than her fabric.

tooMuchFabric 09-14-2010 02:47 PM

I don't see where dyes and chemicals spread germs, but dirty needles and even ordinary daily surfaces do.
.

tweetee 09-14-2010 03:10 PM

The only fabric I wash is the stuff I use for the swaps, and i will soak peices that tend to bleed in some hot water then line dry. Never have I put fabric in the washing machine, all mine when i do wash it is hand washed.

I am also not overly concerned about germs. I was also brought up on a farm, and got into all sorts of mischief and unimaginable situations that were not pleasant, but had to be done. I beleive all this clap trap about 'must rid the home of all germs' is not a good thing for anybody, and contributes for the amount of allergies that we have today, and infections, as the body does not build up a good imune system to the every day germs that you will encounter on the outside of the home. Such as the "buttcrack" money (had to laugh at that one)and filthy supermarket trolleys and door handles that millions of people touch each year. Of course, keeping your home clean and tidy is a must in my book, but to go to extremes such as disinfecting every surface every day is rediculous. Have you ever noticed that the people that do this tend to get sick more often than others who are not so bothered about it? Thats just my opinion

Mattee 09-14-2010 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by tweetee
The only fabric I wash is the stuff I use for the swaps, and i will soak peices that tend to bleed in some hot water then line dry. Never have I put fabric in the washing machine, all mine when i do wash it is hand washed.

I am also not overly concerned about germs. I was also brought up on a farm, and got into all sorts of mischief and unimaginable situations that were not pleasant, but had to be done. I beleive all this clap trap about 'must rid the home of all germs' is not a good thing for anybody, and contributes for the amount of allergies that we have today, and infections, as the body does not build up a good imune system to the every day germs that you will encounter on the outside of the home. Such as the "buttcrack" money (had to laugh at that one)and filthy supermarket trolleys and door handles that millions of people touch each year. Of course, keeping your home clean and tidy is a must in my book, but to go to extremes such as disinfecting every surface every day is rediculous. Have you ever noticed that the people that do this tend to get sick more often than others who are not so bothered about it? Thats just my opinion

I couldn't agree more!

bearisgray 09-14-2010 03:14 PM

Ever wonder who has used the air and water before you just did?

I wonder how many times these two substances have been recycled since they were created.

MadQuilter 09-14-2010 03:16 PM

Thanks for the story, but I think this is the exception - not the rule. If I started doing all the things "I'm supposed to be doing" my poor system would get totally confused. Hey - some people need preservatives in their food, tannens in their booze, and chemicals in their fabric. DH has allergies - when the dust gets bad, he knows where the vacuum cleaner is. I figure you just need to outwait the dust bunnies. Eventually they get too big to be bothersome. (good grief - poor guy did not chose his wife well. lol)

Babs194068 09-16-2010 02:11 AM

Because I have sever COPD I have always washed my fabric mainly to get the chemicals out of it. But this certainly puts a new light on wash or don't wash. Thanks for the info.

gaigai 09-16-2010 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by Gerbie
I know there have been several posts in the past on this subject, but I need to add this to all others. Sat. when I was in Hancocks, my husband had to leave the store, because something in the store was bothering his allergies. The floor manager was cutting my fabric at the time and related this story to me about washing fabric. She has a friend who was sewing and cleaning up in the evening when she scratched her finger on the needle in her machine. The skin wasn't broken, so she didn't think anything about it. The finger begin to show some infection a day or so later and she went to her doctor. He put her in the hospital with a staff infection. He asked her what she was doing and when she told him, the Dr. told her to always wash all of her fab. before using it in any way, because of the dyes and what ever else might be on it, since most of the fab. comes from overseas now. Their processes may not be the most sanitary. She spent 5 days in the hospital and almost lost her finger the manager told me. She (the manager) saw the finger after the hospital stay and said it looked horrible, her finger had split open and really looked bad. SO PLEASE folks take the time and effort to WASH your fab. before using it. We just can't be too careful, and we don't want any of our other sewing friends to have any problems. I almost always wash mine, but I certainly will wash any of it now.

As an ER and Critical Care nurse, this sounds like one of the alarmist stories that Snopes.com regularly debunks. Sorry, I'm not buying it. And BTW, Allergies and Infections are two very, very different things, not caused by the same process at all. If this person got an infection, it was from the needle, or something she touched AFTER the scratch, not the fabric.

Yvonne7 09-16-2010 04:17 AM

I wash my fabric because of my kids. After having two of them break out in a rash. It's not germs that scare me it's chemicals. There's more diseases now them before. I have 2 children with asthma. What I've been told is that it is on the increase. I'm not saying its from the fabric. I'm just saying its just something more. Reaction most of the time are more then one thing. It's just one more thing that, do we realy need? So many poeple are going organic and eating right and exercising. Why can't we think about the cemicals we put on our clothse and sheets and fabric?

raedar63 09-16-2010 04:28 AM

I too live on a farm,and get small scraps from others,It is not always a possibility to wash but I always wash the final product.

I am a critical care nurse and beleive me fabric is not even a concern compared to all the germs lurking in our communities,hand washing is number one prevention,cleaning grocery cart handles also is a biggie especially for those of us living where flu season is getting ready to get active.

Fabaddict 09-16-2010 05:51 AM

I always wash mine as soon as it comes in the house - mostly because I am allergic to too large a dose of the chemicals on it.

pojo 09-16-2010 06:04 AM

I don't wash my fabric either I like the crisp feeling.

If any of you carry a purse it is so dirty on the bottom of it for laying it on the floor where ever you put it. Like restraunts, Doctor offices, restrooms, etc.

Bluphrog 09-16-2010 06:39 AM

I've got to say that the staf infection thing sounds like an urban legend to me. When I think of how many things we touch inside and outside our homes that may have bacteria on them, we'd be washing our hands constantly.

And I think I remember reading somewhere that the ink that money is printed with has an antibacterial ingredient in it.

quilter68 09-16-2010 06:52 AM

During a recent visit to my LQS I had a rash break out all around my waist. I had to leave the store. I know it was some fabric. They were looking at me strangely for all my scratching. The owner said they never had anyone allergic. I've never had allergies but there it was.

It went away later that day.
Quilter68 (who is really 69 now.)

wvdek 09-16-2010 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Jan in VA
OMIGOSH! After of 30 years of washing and not washing fabric, it never occurred to me to think of overseas, 'dirty' environments, multiple hands handling, infections and germs, ALONG with the yucky dyes and starches and finishes and other chemicals that make me feel all gummy-eyed and itchy! My washer will definitely be getting more of a workout these days!

UUUUUKEY!!!

Jan in VA

She said it all and this is why I alway's wash all my fabrics. "Nuff said.

SherryLea 09-16-2010 07:52 AM

You know their are germs on everything and you can catch
almost anything by just opening your door. I try to keep my house clean and I wash my hands a lot. I don't wash my material because that is my choice it is your choice if you want to wash it both sides have good reasons for their choice, but if we as careful as everyone tells us to be we
would never get out of bed. Most of my colds and virus are caught from my grand children and they take a bath every day. I guess I could quit holding them and kissing them NOT!!!!! To each his own

Sewslow 09-16-2010 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by tweetee
The only fabric I wash is the stuff I use for the swaps, and i will soak peices that tend to bleed in some hot water then line dry. Never have I put fabric in the washing machine, all mine when i do wash it is hand washed.

I am also not overly concerned about germs. I was also brought up on a farm, and got into all sorts of mischief and unimaginable situations that were not pleasant, but had to be done. I beleive all this clap trap about 'must rid the home of all germs' is not a good thing for anybody, and contributes for the amount of allergies that we have today, and infections, as the body does not build up a good imune system to the every day germs that you will encounter on the outside of the home. Such as the "buttcrack" money (had to laugh at that one)and filthy supermarket trolleys and door handles that millions of people touch each year. Of course, keeping your home clean and tidy is a must in my book, but to go to extremes such as disinfecting every surface every day is rediculous. Have you ever noticed that the people that do this tend to get sick more often than others who are not so bothered about it? Thats just my opinion

I second your sensible opinion. I read a woman's comment on Facebook yesterday that her child had gotten chickenpox from teething on the grocery cart handle. With all the dirty things in everyday life, I wondered how she narrowed this down, if she carried a forensic kit to determine this and, if so, why she didn't carry antiseptic wipes or secure the child so he couldn't reach said handle with his mouth.

Gerbie 09-16-2010 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by gaigai

Originally Posted by Gerbie
I know there have been several posts in the past on this subject, but I need to add this to all others. Sat. when I was in Hancocks, my husband had to leave the store, because something in the store was bothering his allergies. The floor manager was cutting my fabric at the time and related this story to me about washing fabric. She has a friend who was sewing and cleaning up in the evening when she scratched her finger on the needle in her machine. The skin wasn't broken, so she didn't think anything about it. The finger begin to show some infection a day or so later and she went to her doctor. He put her in the hospital with a staff infection. He asked her what she was doing and when she told him, the Dr. told her to always wash all of her fab. before using it in any way, because of the dyes and what ever else might be on it, since most of the fab. comes from overseas now. Their processes may not be the most sanitary. She spent 5 days in the hospital and almost lost her finger the manager told me. She (the manager) saw the finger after the hospital stay and said it looked horrible, her finger had split open and really looked bad. SO PLEASE folks take the time and effort to WASH your fab. before using it. We just can't be too careful, and we don't want any of our other sewing friends to have any problems. I almost always wash mine, but I certainly will wash any of it now.

As an ER and Critical Care nurse, this sounds like one of the alarmist stories that Snopes.com regularly debunks. Sorry, I'm not buying it. And BTW, Allergies and Infections are two very, very different things, not caused by the same process at all. If this person got an infection, it was from the needle, or something she touched AFTER the scratch, not the fabric.

Folks I realize that everyone has their own ideas about washing fab. I am only relating a story I was told. I don't know the lady that told me the story, but I was just relating what I had been told. I know there are so many germs everywhere and some people don't catch something that the next person does from the same germs. I also know that this is the type of story that Snopes normally says is not so. I really don't know if it is true or not, but just in case it is, I thought I would relate the story.

sjhughson 09-16-2010 08:39 AM

I wash my fabric b/c I like to get out the sizing and excess dye. I use starch to spray it when I'm pressing it and probably again when I'm about to use it for a project. It's nice a crisp then.

natalieg 09-16-2010 09:02 AM

A quilting friend of my mom's ran over her finger with the sewing machine needle and had an infection so badly that she lost her fingertip from it. I never thought something so small could do so much damage.
I prewash my fabric due to allergies to the chemicals. Now that I have been doing that, I immediately notice the difference when I walk into a LQS or Jo-Anns. I thought it was odd that I never noticed that before as being a trigger, but when I would be around my fabrics every day, I guess I was around it enough that walking into a LQS was really no change. If I would have taken a few days here and there away from my fabrics, then walked into a LQS, I might have been able to pinpoint it faster. At least now I know what my trigger is.
Incidentally, I just got my gallon of Mary Ellen's Best Press in and used it yesterday to press several pieces of fabrics to prepare for cutting. I love it-it works great, but dried my throat and nose out enough to make me cough up a storm. I am going to call them today and see if it has the chemical that I can't handle in it. If so, I will sell it to a local quilty friend and maybe try a small bottle of their free and clear one.

knlsmith 09-16-2010 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Lady Shivesa

Originally Posted by justwannaquilt
Next time you hold a dollar bill in your hands think about how many stipper buttcracks its been in. Are you going to wash it?


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm sorry, but that line totally made me crack up laughing (no pun intended?), although it's kinda gross to think about. ;)

I don't wash any of my fabric, because most of what I have was given to me and is smaller, almost scrap size. Well, that and I've never been very concerned about germs. I was raised on a farm, and, well, germs have just never bothered me.

With that said, I do think it's a different matter entirely if you're doing something for a swap.

Me too. Nothing like wearing your dad's oversized rubber boots in the winter out to the lot, slipping on ice witha puddle of pe on it.... SPLASH! happened more than once. LOL Is that what they mean by good ole days???

I rarely get sick and neither does my daughter. I believe you play hard and work hard all day, wash your hands often, and take a shower/bath before bed.

I do, however, agree that some people have terrible allergies and need to take more precautions. i wash all my quilts before they are given to the new owner.

Lilrain 09-16-2010 10:20 AM

I am in the group that wonders whether the staph actually came from the fabric. Staph is on everyone's skin. To wash or not to wash is a personal decision everyone needs to decide on for themselves. i like to prewash so that if I make something there are no tragedies the first time my quilt recipient washes the quilt. if something is going to happen with the fabric, I want it to happen before I put all the time and effort into a quilt. Believe me, I have had experiences with not prewashing and don't want repeats. The one exception i would make, is to advise all to prewash fabrics for a baby quilt, or wash the quilt before giving it away.

AnnaK 09-16-2010 10:56 AM

All this being said, I'll tell you what really has me concerned. I have been reading and watching the stories on TV about the spreading of BED BUGS. They are all over the country now. I am going to be a lot more careful about things I buy at garage sales, thrift shops and so on. Apparently these bugs are even in movie theatres! They give me the creeps. Once you have them in your house, you will need a professional exterminator to get rid of them. I hadn't heard of these in decades and it seems they are making a major comeback.

Nona 09-16-2010 10:57 AM

I always wash my fabric as soon as it comes into the house. That way, I can start a project at any time and not question if it was washed. I also usually do a small zig zag edge to the raw edges and that way I know just how much it may ravel.

garysgal 09-16-2010 01:56 PM

I got a staph infection from our medical clinic. It was years ago, I was cleaning in one of the exam rooms and took off my gloves because my hands were sweating. A day or so later I was in the drs office and he told me I had picked up a staff infection.
I have often pricked my finger while sewing and I never wash my fabrics and I have yet to pick up a staff infection from the fabrics or dyes. Maybe there is more to this person's story than what was told.

cka 09-16-2010 02:02 PM

I wash all my fabric. My decision came after seeing a black fabric bleed a lovely shade of purple and destroyed a quilt my friend made. She was sick and so was I. But, if you ever look at the water you wash your fabric in, you'll notice it is filthy. This stuff gets handled and stored in warehouses, shipped in containers on pallets maybe wrapped, maybe not. Dirt, bugs, rodents, yuck! Staph hangs around a long time on surfaces. I am not willing to take the chance. Hygiene aside, a little caution can save us from a lot of heartache and pain.


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