Oh yeah... now I am going to take my clothes out of my washer and go to the river. SOunds fun...SO glad we have progressed. They do that with stonewash jeans still. Just saying. HUGS♥♥

Hi JIngle.....

|And cook on a stick over the campfire!!!!God gave somebody the ability to invent these things so we should feel free to use them as we see fit.

I tried to teach my kids to never say "never" and never say "always", and then realized that I wasn't following my own advice!

And if that statement doesn't make sense, I was trying to teach that there are very few absolutes in life, and they should never say that they would 'never' do something, or 'never' like something, or that something could 'never' be true. The same thing goes for 'always'.

Who CARES whether it will hold up well in 100 yrs or not? Your quilt is for you to enjoy now, because you sure won't be able to enjoy it in 2111!

I've had an older lady tell me in front of a group looking at the quilt I was showing that my quilt wasn't a real quilt because it was machined quilted and she was rather superior sounding about it. Everyone got silent. I smiled and told her I only make unreal quilts. I ignored her the rest of the day.

i started to surgically edit to remove all the snarky bits.

changed my mind. i've already put in a full day at the office, and here.

let's all remember that it IS possible to express an opinion, or a counterpoint to somebody else's opinion without being nasty.

Please remember the dress code:

Plan to arrive dressed for a neighborhood block party. Please feel free to wear anything you like except the following:
-knotted shorts
-twisted knickers
-cranky pants
-sack cloth and ashes
-any variation or style of said articles of clothing

and no snooty shoes, either, please. they leave marks on the carpet.

I'm right there with you, linda71. Some people just limit themselves by doing this, That's okay, if they never want to be surprised at a new "anything". But please don't rain on my parade!
peace :D

as an aside, this was a livley discussion. I'm going to go try something new now!

You made me smile. I will keep this in mind the next time I go to a block party.

I agree to a point. I rarely say "I always" or "I never", but I do get real heartburn when I see some of the old traditional ways being modernized to the point of becomming unrecognizable. To me quilting is a joyrney not a destination. I don't think I have the "nads" to machine quilt a hand peiced quilt top. I know it happens. I will always support your right to do so, but I don't think you will ever see that from me. And because I like the old ways best (for me) faster is not always better. I also think that our work is being devalued (not that the mainstream ever really knew what the value was) by the "faster" methods. People think we can whip up an award winning queen sized quilt in several hours, so it can't cost that much. This is just my two cents. I do try the new methods, but always seem to go back to the traditional ways. I guess I am just an old fashioned girl.

"old fashioned" keeps the traditions alive.

new methods attract new people to quilting, which will keep the art alive.

as long as the art lives, there will always be quilters who want to learn about that history. many will want to learn both old and new methods.

it's the circle of life illustrated by quilting. :-)

One woman in our group is doing the same thing. After giveing me a piece of her mind, she swore she'd not buy a chance and refused to sell any chances and has been badmouthing the quilt at every chance.

PatriceJ love it I will have to use the words next time my grandchildren give me a hard time. Just think what a great country this is where we can all agree or disagree, or agree to disagree. We have to do things the way that makes us feel good and happy. BrendaK

If our great great grandmothers had had sewing machines, they would have used them too. If you like and you enjoy it, what's the harm? Go for it.!!!

As a matter of fact, the instant our great great ancestors got their hands on a sewing machine, they started quilting with it. I've owned a couple of those quilts and seen many more.

As for me, I've had close to 40 years of learning new techniques and have had about enough.

I love the things being made with new techniques, each one is the product of hard work and creative spirit.

Still, I cherish the old names and stories, it would be a tragedy to lose them to new techniques.

I'm saying there's room for everthing under the sun. Love and support the effort, even if its not your favorite.

like she said,some rules were just meant to be broken

I don't mind a bit when someone says "I always" or "I never". I prefer it if they offer an explanation of why they choose to do it that way. I then weigh that advice along with all the other opinions offered on the board and decide what to try. I've tried some thinks that work well for others, that just doesn't work well for me. On the other hand, I've done a few things that the majority didn't think would work and am happy with the results.

Think of quilting advice just like food advice. I always eat ketchup on french fries. That sure doesn't mean mustard won't work for you.

I have no objection at all to someone saying "I always" or "I never", for that simply states their own preferred way of doing something. But when they tell you to always or never do something, they deny your right to make that choice for yourself. They are not offering advice, they are demanding obedience.

I do's what I do's and happy I can

Right there with ya, sister!!!!!! And......I enjoy the "old fashioned and historical" just as passionately as the "new and different". It is all good.....as you all are....and I appreciate you all!!!!

DH's sisters say I cheat when making pies b/c I use Pillsbury's crusts from the box. Cheating?? Never!! Smart? Yes, ma'am! I make many, many things from scracth but my pie crust sucks so why not use an aid that doesn't taste too bad? Work smarter, not harder!!

Just think, if someone hadn't invented the "newest thing" we would not be communicating right now.

I don't even have a large enough counter space to roll one out. I also have a bread machine for that same reason. It's called progress.

AMEN, sister!!! I also have a bread machine and love it b/c can't make bread from scratch that's edible. Afraid to even put it out for the birds. :-D

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LOL, thanks for the smile... I even laugh out loud!

I have a 85 year old hand quilted quilt my GGM and GG made on my bedroom wall..I love it..2 members of my quilt group..hand quilt..I admire all..but my GM once said to me..do you think I'd done half of what she did by hand..if she owned a machine like I had..I had never thought of that before..all quilts are beautiful works of art..personally..I design most of mine.. cut and piece and quilt them..if I had enough money I'd send them out to be quilted..and I still consider myself a quilter!

THIS RECIPE NEVER FAILS!
EASY, FAST, AND FLAKEY.
The recipe I use has different portions,but the same ingredients. I think the egg and cold water are the keys.

No matter how much you handle this dough it always will be flaky and tender. The dough may be refrigerated for 3 days or it may be frozen until ready to use.
This recipe will make 4 to 5 single crusts.


4 cups flour
1 tbsp. sugar
2 tsp. salt
1 3/4 cup Crisco shortening (no substitutions)
1 lg. egg
1 tbsp. white or cider vinegar
1/2 c. water


Combine the flour, sugar, and salt in a large bowl and mix well using a large fork. Blend in Crisco until crumbly and peanut-sized chunks remain.
In a small bowl, beat together egg, vinegar and water. Combine the 2 mixtures, stirring with fork until all ingredients are moistened.

Divide the dough into 5 portions. Wrap each in plastic wrap and refrigerate for 30 minutes.

I hope you told him that you're glad he's not eating them cause that means more for you!!!!

ah does she use a rotary cutter ---a cutting mat--- hmm old fashion quilters didn't have them times change things improve thank goodness for that lol

let's all remember that the overwhelming majority of quilters who prefer one method (or collection of methods) to others are just exercising that preference. they might also be encouraging others to at least try those methods.

it's a rare quilter who will tell others that hers is the only correct way. she most likely approaches life in general that way, too.

as we continue this conversation, please remember that 99.99999% of the people you meet who say "I always" or "I never" are just making you aware of their own preference. they are most likely not criticizing you if you happen to do it otherwise.

it's not a good idea to paint with too wide a brush. the mess it makes is very difficult to clean up. ;-)

When I was younger I hand quilted all my quilts. I was so meticulous that if I got a stitch too long I would take it out. Now that I am older I am too impatient to see the finished quilt. I want to make all I can and get them finished while I can still enjoy them.

I agree completely. I find looking at different techniques exciting. Even if I don't "like" the look of a particular piece, I can learn something.

That's why I like this BB. I get so many ideas.

I grew up in a house that used everything we had. I figure if the materials are good enough to hold up to the abuse I want my quilts to take then why not use them?

I use what I can afford and what works in my machine. My machines love the cheap thread so that's what they get.

In todays world not many people have the time to make quilts by hand I love hand applique and quilting but most of my quilts are done on the machine and I love doing that too I do like to mix my media so to speak I hand applique on a machine sewn and quilted quilt If it wasnt for doing quilts by machine I might have 1 finished a year if Iam lucky By machine I have the ones I want plus some for charities and family

when someone says that fmq is not real quilting I like to reply-I think you should try it-it's not so easy.

I agree. I thought that this was one of the best reasons to join this on-line forum...TO LEARN! Just think how boring it would be if everyone used the same criteria for fabrics, patterns, sewing techniques and supplies.

Yep, I'll try anything once! If it is fun, it's for me.

I say pretty much anything goes with quilting. My policy is the quilting rules were made to be broken.Some of the most beautiful quilts are made by breaking the rules. The quilting police can come and arrest me. I will try almost anything.

I'm with you 100%. I love trying new and different techniques. There are some gals in my quilt guild who will ONLY piece simple shapes, Applique!!! NEVER ewwww! But I keep trying to show them simple applique to get them to at least try it. Had to laugh because the one who hated "the A word" but when we had an applique fund raiser quilt she tried to help with a block. Would you believe she got hooked and almost every quilt she makes now has had applique on it. I'm off to do a small piece using "fireworks" as the theme. Has to be done by club meeting next week.

100 years from now??? Really?