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Free Motion Quilting
Just wondering- How many here feel comfortable FMQ on their domestic machines and how many have tried more than stippling and meandering?? If you have tried, do you have any special things/techniques you do to make the process successful?
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I did this rather easily many years ago, but apparently have forgotten something crucial... They tell me it takes hours of practice before one should touch the actual quilt, and that's the part I haven't done yet. My old machine was a lovely Pfaff, and now I have a pretty basic Brother, so that may make a difference once I get around to practicing. I will check back here to see what others say.
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I do FMQ my quilts and have found one of the biggest things is to have the quilt supported on all sides - avoid drag at all costs :) I've recently acquired a Janome 6600P and the larger throat space is nice and makes it easier to manuever. I think a supreme slider and quilting gloves help quite a bit.
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Yes, I do all my quilting on a domestic - I don't own a mid or long arm.
It took a while, but I have become comfortable with it. I STILL practice though! Each time I want to try a new quilting motif (and there are still a LOT that are new to me), or one that I've not done in some time, I practice ... a LOT. I don't ... and I mean NEVER, put my quilt under the machine until I've practiced the motions over and over with the same thread, batting and fabric. Even if I plan on quilting using something I'm very familiar with (stipling for example), I'll still do a short practice with the same batting, fabric and thread to make sure everything plays together properly. I am in fact practicing two motions now that I plan on using on my mini lone-star. I started practicing Sunday, I'll probably not touch the real quilt until this weekend at the earliest. Sue |
I'm pretty comfortable with my FMQ. I totally agree though, that practise is the key. If I'm trying a new pattern, first I practise on paper until I've got the ins and outs figured out. Then I practise on small 14" square quilt sandwiches. When I'm done them, I just serge around the edge and donate them to animal shelters. Only when I feel confident about a pattern do I use it on a quilt.
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I have never FMQed on my sewing machine! Well, I can't say that really. I've practiced some but it is hard for me; as I understand it, you go fast on the foot pedal but slow(er) on moving the quilt. That's hard for me even with headphones on. If anyone has any advice, I'm listening.
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I am gradually improving my FMQ skills. I would say the biggest asset I've discovered is Hobbs 80/20 fusible quilt batt. Until I started using it, I would always end up with a wrinkle or pucker somewhere on the back of my quilt. It would drive me up the wall! :mad: I am going to try the spray basting when the weather gets nice because I think it would work well too. There is just something about the sandwich being stabilized that makes it easier to avoid wrinkles. My Bernina with the BSR does help to reduce micro stitches but I can do a fairly descent job without it too.
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Take a look at patsythompsondesigns.com. I found this site this week, tried a feather design (her tutorials are on youtube), and was so pleased with the results that I ordered two of her books. Take a look, you'll see!
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FMQ on a DSM is extremely difficult. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Many talk the talk but few can walk the walk, even with practice, myself included. My LQS now has a long arm machine. I signed up for lessons on it. I can then FMQ for $15 an hour. I think it's a good deal because I've thrown away quilts with fabrics worth much more than the $ it would take to longarm my next quilt. I also have to take into account the aggravation/tearing my hair out factor. I really excited about the class. Maybe you know someone who would let you rent their longarm.
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Originally Posted by ChaiQuilter
(Post 4907717)
FMQ on a DSM is extremely difficult. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Many talk the talk but few can walk the walk, even with practice, myself included. My LQS now has a long arm machine. I signed up for lessons on it. I can then FMQ for $15 an hour. I think it's a good deal because I've thrown away quilts with fabrics worth much more than the $ it would take to longarm my next quilt. I also have to take into account the aggravation/tearing my hair out factor. I really excited about the class. Maybe you know someone who would let you rent their longarm.
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I usually love free motion quilting on my older bernina, but lately I'm getting some loops on the bottom. I don't know why. I always practice a new design on paper with a pencil first. This helps get the design pattern to register in my brain. Sometimes, I practice that design on a scrap, but when I'm really in the groove it's not something I always do. I do practice on a scrap a little before beginning each new project. I think the key is not letting the fabric hang over the table and getting drag. I kind of bunch it up around the machine but first place thick books behind the machine and make them into a sort of table. Music and one glass of wine helps me relax and enjoy the process.
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I FMQ on my Viking Sapphire all the time. I love the wide throat on it. I can not FMQ without gloves on and I try to get a "rhythm" going. It is very frustrating if you keep getting interrupted. I have only mastered stipples, hearts, stars and waves. I am working on leaves. My next goal will be dancing dahlias. Just keep practicing......we will get there.
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Originally Posted by Sandee
(Post 4907106)
Just wondering- How many here feel comfortable FMQ on their domestic machines and how many have tried more than stippling and meandering?? If you have tried, do you have any special things/techniques you do to make the process successful?
These are just for inspiration... but there is tons of stuff there... one of the easiest things to practice on is handwriting. FMQ is to Longarming as moving the paper rather than the pencil. so this is a little awkward for a bit... BUT handwriting is something we all have plenty of muscle memory for.... put the small sandwich under the needle and whatever foot you're using, foot feeds wherever you want them.... and then practice writing your name....over and over.... when you get a recognizable word.... then practice some of the designs on the site i gave you. just think of it in that way and it will help your brain convert.... you will be writing by moving the 'paper' under the 'pencil'..... PS, I FMQ on a couple of singers, a pfaff, a new home and a white.... it's the practice that matters, not the machine... and I like gardengloves with the fingers cut out.... 2 reasons.... with the fingers cut out, you cannot grip hard with your fingertips... the tendency to grip really hard with your fingertips is what tires you so quickly... this way you have to use your palms and the whole hand... the second reason is that your fingers will be available for detail work without taking off the gloves... I cut off between 1.5" and 2".... it really helps... |
Be fearless, by that I mean give it a try, don't be intemidated by others saying how hard it is. I took a class and that was the best thing I could do. the instructor was wonderful, explained everything and was there to say what I was doing right and wrong. If I had tried on my own, I would have given up on the first attempt.
One tip the teacher said in class was to get gloves. It has helped me a lot. Have your computer on and YouTube clips on fmq when you are doing it. Leah Day and Patsy Thompson are wonderful, recommend both highly. Also, free motion means just that, so practice without a pattern and see what you can create. Have fun. And welcome to the fmq world. |
Originally Posted by Tartan
(Post 4907300)
I am gradually improving my FMQ skills. I would say the biggest asset I've discovered is Hobbs 80/20 fusible quilt batt. Until I started using it, I would always end up with a wrinkle or pucker somewhere on the back of my quilt. It would drive me up the wall!.
Annie |
Love this forum. I'm going to try the gardening gloves tip. Thanks.
Annie |
Probably the biggest thing to conquer is the practice. It takes a while and then all of a sudden one day, you stitches are great! My most important things for successful FMQ:
Spray baste Supreme Slider Gloves (I prefer Machingers - they are cooler and better fitting than garden gloves - the best $9 I've spent) Extra table on the left to hold the weight of the quilt Music Peace (family to leave me alone!) So many people are just terrified to try it because they fear it won't be perfect. No one is perfect, not even the pros. Look closely at the magazines. Even on the covers sometimes it's not perfect. Keep your first practice sandwich and compare it later on. It's a hobby, it's supposed to be fun! |
A Great Video on Speed Control for FMQ
I have always had a hard time with free motion quilting until I can across Leah Day and her website http://www.daystyledesigns.com
The amount of info on this site is amazing. I especially learned a lot about speed control from her youtube video, "Free Motion Quilting Speed Control" at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iloHo...eature=related If you're looking to improve your FMQ techniques, this is definitely worth a look. |
I also FMQ on my domestic machine. I love the tutorials put out by Patsy Thomas and also Leah Day on www.daystyledesigns.com. I am fairly comfortable with stippling/meandering. Practice is crucial. It did take a little bit for me to get into a groove with the things one needs to sync when FMQing (speed of machine along with speed of moving the quilt under the needle). For a time I couldn't seem to get it right, and wasn't sure what to change (did I need to slow down or speed up the machine? Was I moving too fast or too slow?). And then finally one day, voila! Something got into sync for me and I got it - I got how it felt when it all worked together.
That said, I will also tell you that what is easy on a practice sandwich - doesn't go over as easily when working with an actual quilt on the machine. I was doing wonderful swirls/clouds on my practice sandwich. When you add in the bulk of the quilt though, well - that's another thing to master. I did do it - and it got easier as I went along. I am convinced - it can be done, one just has to be willing to put in the practice. Watch these tutorials - they are very encouraging. Also, it doesn't have to be perfect to look very nice. My meandering isn't always perfect. Every now and again I get an oopsie and cross lines. By the time I wash the quilt and it crinkles up, the overall effect is pretty. I am happy with it, my family is happy with it. The only ones to know all may not be how it should be (in a perfect world) - is another quilter. Not everyone is happy with this though (less than perfection). Only you know which level you would be comfortable at. If you end up hating your quilt every time you look at it because you can't see past what isn't perfect - that is something to consider. So much time goes into making a quilt top - you want to be happy with it when it is completed. One thing that occurred to me the other day as I was practicing my meandering is that it was getting easier to look ahead to where I wanted my needle to go next - and that I was getting more proficient at working back into spaces I missed and getting back out - without constantly starting/stopping. This is progress! And with that I decided I was gaining enough control that I now want to start trying to trace some patterns onto some practice sandwiches and follow the lines. All of this to say - I do believe it can be done and it can be done well. Just depends on how much practice you are willing to put in if you decide you want to master this. :o Plus - this board is such a wealth of information and experience (and encouragement). Such a help!! |
I FMQ on my machine and to be honest, really haven't mastered (or practiced) stippling or meandering. I am working on a quilt at the moment that I am FMQ-ing a flower motif which will then be echo quilted around, along with some feathers in the borders. I have a plan to make a batch of placemats (I can always use them) and use them for more FMQ practice. One thing I have done is play with my table set up to get it comfy and then I have also played a lot with how I manipulate the fabric so I can move it smoothly and not get jerky stitches. I am sure this board will be full of helpful ideas. Good luck!
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I just FMQed my first quilt - a large lap quilt. I found it hard to maneuver it around at first but it got easier with experience. I took Leah Day's advice and gave myself permission to mess up. I think I had a pretty credible result using Golden Threads paper with the stipple design needle-punched through it. I pinned the pieces to the quilt and FMQed over them. (I hated this but I was afraid of marking the white areas.)
After it was completed, my DS commented on the quilt and I said, "But look I did make some mistakes." He asked me to point them out and guess what, I had a hard time finding them. Good luck, give it a try and don't be hard on yourself. |
Leah Day taught me a really important fact. No matter what speed I went at with my feed dogs down....I ended up with a total mess. But, when I left my feed dogs up, with the width and length set at zero; I do not have any of those problems. My free motion quilting is still in the very beginning stages, but I have fun and learn something new every time I practice.
This goes in a different direction, but it may help others who have trouble with finding the correct balance with FMQ. Try doing Free Motion Machine Embroidery. You use both a zig zag stitch or a straight stitch. It has really helped me to gain confidence and the willingness to try the some of the numerous quilting designs available. |
Leah Day has begun a new series of FMQ "classes" for this year that is geared for beginners. She explains everything...beginning with a stipple design...breaking down the stitching design in parts...and gradually adding new elements until you get a completed design. These are posted each Wednesday...the first 3 lessons (including a video) are available on her site. You can ask questions & she posts answers on Thursdays. Very informative. Of course the most important thing is to practice...which I'm kind of falling behind on...but I recommend checking out Leah's site...lots of excellent information!
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I free motion quilt on my domestic. Here is the first quilt I did outside of loops and meandering: http://skittl1321.blogspot.com/2011/...t-is-done.html
It takes practice, but doesn't everything? I find that I am better at quilting than I am at piecing, so I quilt for our guild. I think it would be fun to learn to use a longarm, but it is a whole other skill- I feel like I should practice this one first before I move onto something else. |
Originally Posted by DogHouseMom
(Post 4907254)
It took a while, but I have become comfortable with it. I STILL practice though! Each time I want to try a new quilting motif (and there are still a LOT that are new to me), or one that I've not done in some time, I practice ... a LOT. I don't ... and I mean NEVER, put my quilt under the machine until I've practiced the motions over and over with the same thread, batting and fabric. Even if I plan on quilting using something I'm very familiar with (stipling for example), I'll still do a short practice with the same batting, fabric and thread to make sure everything plays together properly.
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Originally Posted by Chicca
(Post 4909464)
Leah Day taught me a really important fact. No matter what speed I went at with my feed dogs down....I ended up with a total mess. But, when I left my feed dogs up, with the width and length set at zero; I do not have any of those problems. My free motion quilting is still in the very beginning stages, but I have fun and learn something new every time I practice...
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I have a question. With fusible batting, do you have to iron it on? or does it just stick?
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Lack experience, will do only smaller lap quilts and feel sometimes like it's a battle. Need practice, firmly believe that more experience will help. Would love to have a LAQ but no room.
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I do all kinds of free motion on my little machine, I prefer it for detailed work over the long arm. Of course I do large quilts on the long arm.
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I don't think any one mentioned, if you can SET the speed on your DSM machine and forget about that, it becauses much easier. I have a Janome, and before I start on my piece I practice to get the speed right for the design or size I'm working with. Most of the work shown on my web site are from my domesitic.
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I also FMQ on my regular machine. (I do meander, stipple, and free form designs.) I do have an Elna 7200 with an extra long harp, but I have also FMQ'd a queen size quilt on my other Elna with a standard size harp.
I don't roll my quilts, I "puddle" them under the needle. Also the single most important thing I do is to play music and sing or hum along to the tune. It just keeps me breathing (when we concentrate, we tend to hold our breath and when we do that, we tense up). Singing (or humming) just keeps me breathing and relaxed and really helps to keep my quilting smooth and flowing. :) |
I'm still in the stipple stage but I've been following Leah Day's quilt along for 2012 and things are improving.
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I FMQ on my regular machine. I sandwich my quilts with 505 Spray and Fix. I also sandwich about a 12 x 20 piece of muslin with the same batting I am using for the quilt. Practicing on the muslin sandwich gets me back into the timing of moving the fabric. My husband built me a quilting table. It is a purchased adjustable height table from Sam's Club. He put 2 layers of foam insulation on top with a cut out for my machine. On top of the foam is heavy duty vinyl (bty from Joann's). The vinyl keeps the quilt moving nicely and to have the machine and table the same height means there is nothing to catch on. I keep trying new designs. I find I always go back to a combo of stippling and meandering with a few loops thrown in. I have found that I am always better by the end of the quilt so now I try to finish up 2 quilts and can work on one right after the other.
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I am still in the learning stage as I work full time and when I attempt to sew in the evening, I never have enough time. I practice for 20 minutes like all the books say but nothing seems to click. But I never get very far and have to stop and pick out what I just put in. I always end up doing STD just to get the quilt done.
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Practice! I use my Baby Lock Quilter's choice which does not have a large throat, and just do it, but I admit my shoulders are tired when I'm done with all the moving around. I sometimes practice drawing the pattern, to get it into my mind, then just do it. I've decided that my quilts will designed/cut/pieced/quilted by me, so I just keep practicing and just keep doing it. Not going to win any prizes, but they are done by me! The supreme slider, quilting gloves, and fully supporting the weight of the piece do make all the difference.
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free motion quilting on a Brother
I am a novice quilter who has completed several quilts but I have been working on learning quilting for 4 years and I still do not feel I "know how". Free motion quilting is the reason I purchased the new Brother Quattro and I am disappointed. I don't know whether it is me or the machine. I like the 11" throat and the basic soundness of the stitching...it doesn't jiggle like my lighter weight manual singer machine. BUT so far I have tons of bird nests on the back of the quilting fabric. It worked great for about 2 hours then after that I have had nothing but tangles on the back. I was told by other quilters in my guild that I should use 60wt thread which I tried but it did not change the problem.
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I just stated FMQ on my domestic about a year ago, and agree with all I've read here about PRACTICE.
Also, I've learned to not be so critical of my work , and find SOMETHING that's an improvement over the last time. I am very fortunate that I have a machine table that's quite large, and supports all of the item I'm working on. I just posted this in the pics thread, and though the FMQ is not perfect, that was not my goal. My goal was 'good enough' The thing I liked over the last project, the hearts FMQ |
Originally Posted by Rumbols
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I am still in the learning stage as I work full time and when I attempt to sew in the evening, I never have enough time. I practice for 20 minutes like all the books say but nothing seems to click. But I never get very far and have to stop and pick out what I just put in. I always end up doing STD just to get the quilt done.
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Fmq hope it helps
Yes, Ido most of guilting Fmg, deside what you want to do, make a quilt sandwich with material close to what u r quilting, practice till u feel u have down. I look for different guilting in magazines I have.
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Confidence, persistance - along with all the comments from above, these are two that you may want to consider. If you are confident you can do it - 1000's of others have, why not you? Along with being persistant - practice a bit now, go on to somthing else, let your practice session sit in the back of your mind, what do you think could be improved on - what can you do to imporve it - try it next time.... It won't happen all at once, but BELIEVE that it will. I'm not a pro, but this is pretty much the way I went about it. And the practice sandwiches - - - I've been practicing sewing them together with binding strip quilt as you go process.
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