Fustrated.......pieced border!
So I'm venting a minute because this is the second time I have to stop and breathe over this border strip. I'm not this dense I know I'm not!!! So I needed to make two border strips 2 1/2 by 62 I cut and sewed, they turned out great then I realized I measured wrong and was short 1 1/2" on each so I thought ok not that bad and next time wait to have someone hold the other end of the measuring tape so it's accurate. When I piece my border strips I do them on the diagonal so i cut an extra piece for each one 5" thinking that's more then enough since I only need 1 1/2" ....can you believe I'm still 1/2" short??? I know it has to do with piecing them on the diagonal and I should have double checked. So I probably have already answered my question and will cut it all off and do it again since I have extra fabric...but still...ever feel like a quilt is fighting you the whole way and WINNING! To top it off this was a finished UFO top that I never quilted because I never liked it so I'm fixing it and am trying to get it ready to be quilted Monday if it would cooperate already!!! Thanks for letting me vent, Rachel
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LOL...Been there...done that. Sometimes you just need to walk away for a bit then come back..
Originally Posted by QuiltingCrazie
(Post 5220236)
So I'm venting a minute because this is the second time I have to stop and breathe over this border strip. I'm not this dense I know I'm not!!! So I needed to make two border strips 2 1/2 by 62 I cut and sewed, they turned out great then I realized I measured wrong and was short 1 1/2" on each so I thought ok not that bad and next time wait to have someone hold the other end of the measuring tape so it's accurate. When I piece my border strips I do them on the diagonal so i cut an extra piece for each one 5" thinking that's more then enough since I only need 1 1/2" ....can you believe I'm still 1/2" short??? I know it has to do with piecing them on the diagonal and I should have double checked. So I probably have already answered my question and will cut it all off and do it again since I have extra fabric...but still...ever feel like a quilt is fighting you the whole way and WINNING! To top it off this was a finished UFO top that I never quilted because I never liked it so I'm fixing it and am trying to get it ready to be quilted Monday if it would cooperate already!!! Thanks for letting me vent, Rachel
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Stop piecing them on the diagonal and you won't have that problem. There is no actual reason to piece borders on the diagonal and it wastes fabric.
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Been there also. One time I added a pieced block to the corners so the border being short was a good thing. It really added a better finish to the quilt.
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You can do it! Don't let your UFO win. Whip that puppy into shape!
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I think a block on the cornor is a good idea and will solve the problem. I also piece my borders on the diagonal because I like the look better than straight across. I know it takes more fabric but if I like the look better I guess it is worth it.
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I like piecing the borders on the diagonal also. You usually have to really look to see the seams and that is a plus in my book.
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I never piece anything on the diagonal....once it's quilted, the seams become virtually invisible....and you save yourself time, fabric and piece of mind!
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I piece on the diagonal also. I like the looks of. I just feel like I can always spot a straight seam in a border, just my opinion. I know it takes extra fabric but I bank on that when I buy the fabric and then I just put the scraps in my ever growing scrap pile!
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Isn't it great that we can each do it the way we prefer and they all turn out just the way we want them....eventually!
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I have read books that recommended piecing the border on the bias to make the pattern flow better. I've never used one of the gorgeous big borders (because I never seem to have the perfect fabric), so I've never tried it. However, I do have a question. Doesn't this introduce stretchiness where you least want it, on the outside of the quilt? I have never quilted something with bias on the outside edge, but I wonder if this is a problem when quilting, especially for longarmers who need to stretch the fabric on a frame?
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How very frustrating!!! The corner block may well be a good idea. I am guessing but 1. try pressing again and see it the results change. 2. You are off 2% per inch. That probably translates to a 1 thread seam allowance error.
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thanks ladies!!! I always love this board....To answer a few ??'s yes I agree I do like the look on the diagonal, it's a personal thing. I have pieced in the straight and since I quilt for me and I can see it I avoid it lol but have no judgement for others!! I have never had a stretch problem but it's the way I was taught and I was taught to be careful as well with the bias. I'm amazed at what I learn here and the differances and trust me I have used many tips and tricks on here! I just needed someone to understand my frustration my family sometimes looks at me like I have grown three heads lol. you wonderful ladies and I have coffee every morning thanks again!! Rachel
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I lay my border pieces on top of the quilt center across and up and down, Lightly run my hand over the border to get to the same length as the top, cut it and do the same with other end. I then pin top in center, then pin halfway to the center pin on each end, do the same with the border, pin together and hold at each pin and sew, match up the ends and sew to the end. Sometimes this will take up a bit of fabric without puckering anything. I piece on diagonal and it never stretches. I have also had to attach a bit of fabric to lengthen tha border. Not noticeable until you look really close. I hope this helps and gives you an idea of possible fixes.
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I miter the binding strips but not the border pieces. When short, a corner block is a nice addition.
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One of our smart math ladies can probably tell us--for example, if I'm adding a piece to a 2.5" border and using a diagonal seam to piece it into the middle of a too-short border, how long does that piece need to be? Rachel's original border was 60.5" and needed to be 62". How long a piece does she need to add in the middle if piecing it in on the diagonal?
One of you smart gals must have a formula for each extra inch that we need to add in this manner. I know there's some algebra in there somewhere! In the past, I've added a longer piece into the middle and then trimmed the ends equally. But if I was ever short on fabric, I'd be in trouble!!!:eek: |
Originally Posted by Pinkiris
(Post 5221861)
One of our smart math ladies can probably tell us--for example, if I'm adding a piece to a 2.5" border and using a diagonal seam to piece it into the middle of a too-short border, how long does that piece need to be? Rachel's original border was 60.5" and needed to be 62". How long a piece does she need to add in the middle if piecing it in on the diagonal?
One of you smart gals must have a formula for each extra inch that we need to add in this manner. I know there's some algebra in there somewhere! In the past, I've added a longer piece into the middle and then trimmed the ends equally. But if I was ever short on fabric, I'd be in trouble!!!:eek: |
I agree with QuiltingCrazie that we all have our preferred methods and isn't that a nice thing. I like diagonal seams best. I took a class where the instructor said don't bother with the tape measure. Put the strips of border fabric across the middle of the quilt making sure all is smooth and not stretched, and whack them off. You then have two same size border pieces that you can ease in on the top and bottom. Do same for sides. Or sides first, etc.
Scissor Queen thanks for the formula. |
URGHHHH! Been there done that.
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piece your lengths together first, either on diagonal or straight seam, THEN measure the length of the strip to match the length of the quilt.
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Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
(Post 5220387)
Stop piecing them on the diagonal and you won't have that problem. There is no actual reason to piece borders on the diagonal and it wastes fabric.
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I piece on the diagonal as like the look better but either ay works as it is your quilt.
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there is some kind of formula for figuring the length of a piece to be cut diagonally.......I think it is something like add the width of the piece of fabric twice then add an inch........to get the proper length.........not sure, as I cut border, sash pieces straight..only use the added length rule when I am planning mitered corner...which is rare......only if fabric actually has a "line" to it.....
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I, also, use the diagonal seam because I feel it is less noticeable.
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Originally Posted by Stitchnripper
(Post 5222283)
I agree with QuiltingCrazie that we all have our preferred methods and isn't that a nice thing. I like diagonal seams best. I took a class where the instructor said don't bother with the tape measure. Put the strips of border fabric across the middle of the quilt making sure all is smooth and not stretched, and whack them off. You then have two same size border pieces that you can ease in on the top and bottom. Do same for sides. Or sides first, etc.
Scissor Queen thanks for the formula. |
Maybe it knows you don't like it, so it's giving you a hard time! LOL!
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Originally Posted by judys
(Post 5220876)
Isn't it great that we can each do it the way we prefer and they all turn out just the way we want them....eventually!
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Ok, OK, OK,now I have to see one!!!!! I don't think I've ever seen a pieced, diagional boder. Does anyone have pics??
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I do what paulswalia does, piece the borders together first, then measure and cut them to fit the quilt. Even when I don't piece them I pin them on before I cut. It is SO EASY to come up short.
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I piece my borders on the diagonal, also. I add 12 1/2 inces to the length. This gives me enough for the diagnol seams and enough to join the two ends diagonlly.
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Sorry that's for the binding. I do what the others do piec them then measure the quilt in the middle and cut them to size.
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Originally Posted by judys
(Post 5220876)
Isn't it great that we can each do it the way we prefer and they all turn out just the way we want them....eventually!
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I piece mine on the diagonal because (1) I like the look (2) It reduces bulk and (3) I want that fabric to know it can't win! froggyintexas
Originally Posted by gramarraine
(Post 5220469)
I think a block on the cornor is a good idea and will solve the problem. I also piece my borders on the diagonal because I like the look better than straight across. I know it takes more fabric but if I like the look better I guess it is worth it.
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Originally Posted by QuiltingCrazie
(Post 5220236)
So I'm venting a minute because this is the second time I have to stop and breathe over this border strip. I'm not this dense I know I'm not!!! So I needed to make two border strips 2 1/2 by 62 I cut and sewed, they turned out great then I realized I measured wrong and was short 1 1/2" on each so I thought ok not that bad and next time wait to have someone hold the other end of the measuring tape so it's accurate. When I piece my border strips I do them on the diagonal so i cut an extra piece for each one 5" thinking that's more then enough since I only need 1 1/2" ....can you believe I'm still 1/2" short??? I know it has to do with piecing them on the diagonal and I should have double checked. So I probably have already answered my question and will cut it all off and do it again since I have extra fabric...but still...ever feel like a quilt is fighting you the whole way and WINNING! To top it off this was a finished UFO top that I never quilted because I never liked it so I'm fixing it and am trying to get it ready to be quilted Monday if it would cooperate already!!! Thanks for letting me vent, Rachel
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Hi quilting crazie, during the holidays of 2011 I started to make a quilt for a really sick child (cancer) I made it a simple design, thought a month tops it would take. Well around thanksgiving the quilt just did not want to be made ( it was my plan to have it done before thanksgiving). I put pieces together and took them apart so many times I just gave up I figured the quilt just did not want to be made. I put it all away cleaned up my sewing room that I use for big dinners set the room up for the 20 plus people. 3 weeks later took the quilt out again and it still did not want to be put together. Finally by the end of january I was able to take it to the little girl and her grandpa. She rreally loves it and plays with it every day. The quilt is titled "Dreams do come true" I used disney fabrics. SOOOOooo I guess what I am saying maybe what you are working on is not ready to be created. ;~)
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I've done that too, come up short. But usually just because I runout of fabric. I do what be of the other quilters said - piece the border, sew it on and THEN cut. If you pin in on right, you won't have any problem stretching or waviness. Also, if I don't have enough fabric, I have added pieces of the fabric I used in the design, into the border, as if I had planned it that way all along. I did this with a Bargello quilt, and I got a lot of compliments on the border.
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Think we have all had days like that. But you have to show this quilt who is boss!!! lol
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Originally Posted by joyce888
(Post 5220424)
Been there also. One time I added a pieced block to the corners so the border being short was a good thing. It really added a better finish to the quilt.
I tried to add a border to a quilt to enlarge it, had nothing but small pieces left of the fabric, and I can't go into describing what I did it was so involved, but that border is my very most favorite of all I've ever done. So, yea for mistakes, you can improve it. |
Are you measuring your quilt thru the center for your borders or along the edge? Measure thru the center
I do that, put a pin in if I am using a shorter tape measure and then add the two figures together to get the right measurement. I have done borders on the diagonal and cut them the correct measurement. Sometimes I don't want to do that and I purchase enough fabrice to cut them without piecing and then cut the correct measurement. This keeps your borders from waving. The only time I have pieced borders straight is when I used a stripe and wanted it to match instead of having the 45 degree angle. |
Originally Posted by MadQuilter
(Post 5221839)
I miter the binding strips but not the border pieces. When short, a corner block is a nice addition.
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