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LAB55 02-09-2011 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by DianD
Well, hmmm... I had a couple of thoughts... if you use any kind of spray adhesive, it will leave chemicals in your fabric. However, washing the fabric after basting is the best way to deal with that! What is the difference in using hairspray, adhesive or other chemicals, like, say, laundry detergent? Don't ALL of those things leave chemicals behind? (fragrance, softness, etc,) Yes, it is flammable...so is nail polish remover, and even vegetable oil!
I personally think that this is a great idea! Cheaper and easier to use and remove.
We are careful with other chemicals in our lives, so I guess my point is this- (to the doom-sayers) use what you want to use, be open to new ideas and realize that you can learn something from everyone you come in contact with.
I love being part of this amazing group of smart, creative people. Thanks for the tip!

I agree !! :-)

sewingsuz 02-09-2011 12:50 PM

Don't get the machine to hot when sewing because it is flamable.lol

BarbZ 02-09-2011 02:17 PM

i wonder if you can lift your fabric and put it back down like you can with 505. Anyone given it a try that have used the hairspray.

megs0863 02-09-2011 02:22 PM

I don't like any kind of aerosol that can be inhaled. If you can smell it, you can inhale it!! I use fabric glue sticks and use it sparingly for applique or basting it. It isn't perfect, but I feel it's better. I'm very sensitive to any sprays,that's just me.

ktmo815 02-09-2011 02:46 PM

great tip - Thank you

Stitchnripper 02-09-2011 02:54 PM

I think I remember something that most hairsprays have been reformulated so they don't take ink out anymore - is that true? Anyway, might have the same noneffect on dyes. Thanks for the great idea.

ann31039 02-09-2011 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by Texasjunebug
I've also wondered about making baby quilts with nice pristine cotton without the added fire retardant chemicals. Yuk. What to do?

my dad was a textile chemist. he told me that once something was washed in detergent, it removed the flame retardant, so that doesn't matter. it's just a sales gimmick. they were required to use it on government orders for the tent cloth and stuff.

champagnebubbles 02-09-2011 04:38 PM

good idea!

gramalama9 02-09-2011 04:41 PM

As I recall, hair spray only worked on ball point ink....I don't know what the difference is, but have used it for that purpose. Never on any other kind of ink or dye.
seems to me that if it washes out of our hair with no problem, it should wash out of fabric as well. I like the comment by the textile chemist....they know their stuff!
I hated using the basting spray that is so expensive it's ridiculous. It made my throat close up! Hair spray does not do that to me....thank heaven....I use it every day!
I will try the hair spray method at the next opportunity....and I bet it works!

Anna.425 02-09-2011 04:58 PM

Did the hairspray gum up your needle when you were quilting it?

Annette Searcy 02-09-2011 06:11 PM

Have any of you tried spray starch. I know when you iron over it it sticks extremely well. WE use to use starch( the old fashioned boiled starch) for wall hanging paste and it stuck until mama pulled it down.j
Annette

OraLee 02-09-2011 06:26 PM

What do it do to your needle on your sewing macjine? Does it make it stickey?

Annette Searcy 02-09-2011 06:42 PM

No, no sticky. Doesn't do any thing to needle or machine or iron. I use it all the time. I make my own starch. A couple of tablespoons of cooking starch and a spray bottle of water . Have to shake it every time you spray as it settles to the bottom. Really good to iron clothes with.
Cheap as dirt.
Try it you'll like it.
Annette

OraLee 02-09-2011 06:44 PM

Ok what is cooking starch?

Annette Searcy 02-09-2011 06:50 PM

It's in the baking goods section. Argo is one brand. It's a thickening agent to make sauces and such.
Annette

FranW 02-09-2011 06:52 PM

I use Aqua Net all the time. It has not seemed to hurt my machine. Note: I do wash every quilt after it is finished and before it is used/gifted/donated!

Parrothead 02-09-2011 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Annette Searcy
It's in the baking goods section. Argo is one brand. It's a thickening agent to make sauces and such.
Annette

Is this the same as corn starch?

Pat M. 02-09-2011 07:18 PM

I also use hairspray to "set" the pounce powder when making a stenciled pattern. The powder stays on the fabric when I use my Mega Quilter, doesn't bounce around.

Annette Searcy 02-09-2011 08:23 PM

yes. its corn starch
Annette

k9dancer 02-09-2011 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by megs0863
...... I use fabric glue sticks and use it sparingly for applique or basting it. It isn't perfect, but I feel it's better. .....

The el cheapo school glue sticks work great on fabric, and they will wash out, too.

jajudd24 02-09-2011 10:04 PM

great ideal....I am goin to try it!!!

madamekelly 02-09-2011 10:18 PM

Just thought on washing hairspray out of quilt... Shampoo takes it out of our hair, wouldn't is also take it out of a quilt? (In a bathtub before washing in the machine) Do NOT put shampoo in the WASHER! {Just had to say it........} :)

glenda5253 02-09-2011 10:48 PM

This has all been TOO FUNNY to read. :mrgreen: Thanks for the laughs. :thumbup:

Sandy-lou 02-10-2011 01:21 AM


Originally Posted by jaciqltznok

Originally Posted by Butterflyblue
I have no idea if it would be bad for the fabrics over the long term, but those chemicals are the same ones women everywhere spray on their heads, so if you're worried about it in a quilt (AFTER washing) you probably shouldn't use it on your hair, either. And if hair spray is used on art, it is never washed (because washing would definitely damage a charcoal sketch).

Of course hair spray is flammable! Didn't you ever use it to make a flame thrower when you were a kid? Never mind, don't answer that, I'm probably the only one.

as a hairdresser I just had to laugh at this....we used to joke about the old days when you could smoke in the salon and the lady would light up just as you wanted to SPRAY her...

using hairspray on your hair is NOT the same thing as using it on fabric...#1 fabric made with cotton is considered a living fiber because it absorbs what ever you put on it...washing it does NOT remove all the residues of those chemicals...
#2- your hair is A-washed more frequently, B- oily so it does not get absorbed, C- it does leave a build up over time, ask your hair dresser...hairspray is one of the worst things you can do to your hair, comes after using any HOT iron on it!

I know people will do what they want, but you can try to learn more about what chemicals you are using, because not all of your quilts will go on to live in your home...those used for charity, gifts, etc, might go to a home where those chemicals will be an issue!

I agree with Jacqui, I am a Hairdresser with 45 years+ in the industry.

cheryl222 02-10-2011 05:16 AM

Regarding the fear of chemicals in the hair spray. Just wonder how many chemicals are used in the process of making our fabrics, let alone the dye process? We all wear clothes day in and day our made with all kinds of chemicals in the process. Unless one has an allergy to hairspray, I think it is a wonderful idea. Thanks for sharing.

BarbZ 02-10-2011 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by FranW
I use Aqua Net all the time. It has not seemed to hurt my machine. Note: I do wash every quilt after it is finished and before it is used/gifted/donated!

Fran, Can you pick your fabric up and put it back down likeyou can with the 505 to smooth wrinkles and such? In other words does it stay tacky if you lift the fabric.

barney 02-10-2011 07:26 AM

I tried both aquanet and suave and neither adhered the fabric. Both cans said never sticky so what formula do you use? I think I about have a lifes supply of hairsray.

dljennings 02-10-2011 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Butterflyblue
I have no idea if it would be bad for the fabrics over the long term, but those chemicals are the same ones women everywhere spray on their heads, so if you're worried about it in a quilt (AFTER washing) you probably shouldn't use it on your hair, either. And if hair spray is used on art, it is never washed (because washing would definitely damage a charcoal sketch).

Of course hair spray is flammable! Didn't you ever use it to make a flame thrower when you were a kid? Never mind, don't answer that, I'm probably the only one.


no, you're not.... my cousin david's tent was never the same, and i still have no idea what happened. that was my story 35 yrs ago, and i'm sticking with it... so much for no girls allowed!

dljennings 02-10-2011 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by ann31039

Originally Posted by Texasjunebug
I've also wondered about making baby quilts with nice pristine cotton without the added fire retardant chemicals. Yuk. What to do?

my dad was a textile chemist. he told me that once something was washed in detergent, it removed the flame retardant, so that doesn't matter. it's just a sales gimmick. they were required to use it on government orders for the tent cloth and stuff.

when i was a kid, we were at the lake with another family.. all us kids were doing sparklers (the firework things on a stick) one of the kids jammies caught fire... brand new, flame retardant, never been washed. of course she ran, and it fed the flames... my dad tackled her & dropped her into the lake to make sure the fire was out..then he drove her & her parents to the hospital. she had 2nd degree burns over about 60 % of her body... she had to have multiple surgeries over the years...

so much for flame retardant... just a gimmick to make you feel safer.

dljennings 02-10-2011 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by OraLee
Ok what is cooking starch?

corn starch

Parrothead 02-10-2011 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by dljennings

Originally Posted by ann31039

Originally Posted by Texasjunebug
I've also wondered about making baby quilts with nice pristine cotton without the added fire retardant chemicals. Yuk. What to do?

my dad was a textile chemist. he told me that once something was washed in detergent, it removed the flame retardant, so that doesn't matter. it's just a sales gimmick. they were required to use it on government orders for the tent cloth and stuff.

when i was a kid, we were at the lake with another family.. all us kids were doing sparklers (the firework things on a stick) one of the kids jammies caught fire... brand new, flame retardant, never been washed. of course she ran, and it fed the flames... my dad tackled her & dropped her into the lake to make sure the fire was out..then he drove her & her parents to the hospital. she had 2nd degree burns over about 60 % of her body... she had to have multiple surgeries over the years...

so much for flame retardant... just a gimmick to make you feel safer.

But children's clothes are not flame retardant, just sleepwear. My children did not play in their jammies. They had their bath, we read a story and they went to bed. And they got dressed first thing except at Christmas. That was the way I was raised and I guess I followed my Mother's lead. So it seems to me that children have more of a chance of being around flames in their play clothes. Shhhh don't tell the government, they will make another regulation. Do you think China is really using the correct retardant on their fabric?

PWinston 02-10-2011 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by jumpin' judy
. . . Did you know that the propellant in whipped cream is nitrous oxide (laughing gas)?

Maybe that is why I am so happy when eating whipped cream.

FranW 02-10-2011 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by BarbZ

Originally Posted by FranW
I use Aqua Net all the time. It has not seemed to hurt my machine. Note: I do wash every quilt after it is finished and before it is used/gifted/donated!

Fran, Can you pick your fabric up and put it back down likeyou can with the 505 to smooth wrinkles and such? In other words does it stay tacky if you lift the fabric.

Yes, it does. I tried the 505 and honestly did not think it worked any better.

Dee Dee 02-10-2011 06:21 PM

Wow, I never heard of that ! thanks for the info.

madamekelly 02-10-2011 07:35 PM

OK, in summation, you can buy 505. You can buy hairspray. You can use both on fabric. One is made for fabric, one is not. Both have chemicals. Hair has oils, so hair spray washes out. Cotton has no oils. 505 may leave a residue in the quilt. Hairspray will leave a residue in fabric.

I think I've got it.

If I grease my quilt, I can use cheap hairspray, but shampoo will foam in the washer....Got it!

Mwhahahahahaha!

ConnieF 02-11-2011 03:33 AM

Hi Amma,
That was just my thought also.
BE A shame to piece a quilt then to save a few pennies the dye run...
kk2000 is great and is 50% off with the notions at JoAnns and goes a long ways and we know it works great

ConnieF 02-11-2011 03:36 AM

myreda
it is the perpelant that is thr same and not ozone friendly....

ConnieF 02-11-2011 03:44 AM

That is just why KK2000 is so nice it goes away on its own or you can touch wit a dry iron and it irons away. Never use water on any temp spray. The KK2000 will become very stickie. If you read the how to use it is a most wonderful tem spray. I even use it for my appliques to get softer appliques.
I use it for my clothesline bowls and baskets too. I use it to apply laces on garments. Great to hold a button place to be stitched... and it is ozone safe and a green product.
Do not have to go outside to use it. No awfulllll smellll.
Try it you will like it Tee Hee

Also if you use the hair spray you need to wash out the chemicals. you don't with the kk2000 it just goes away

quilticing 02-11-2011 04:19 AM

Basting, anyone? Pinning from the back side works, too. Both methods are environmentally friendly. As a longarmer, those glues are difficult to work with-the quilt is just too stiff.

BarbZ 02-11-2011 07:37 AM

Why not try spraying a sample piece with the hairspray, sew on it some, thro in the washer and see what happens. I have tried to get ink out wth hairspray and you have to really spray it on heavy and blot blot blot and sometimes spray again and blot. The ones who have tried it seem to not have trouble with color fading? Its been a very interesting read. So many opinions and idea. Thats what this is all about. So the only thing to do I guess, is try it you might like it.LOLOLOL


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