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lauriequilts 05-03-2011 06:07 AM

I like to use wonderunder.

meow meow 05-03-2011 06:44 AM

Yesterday I saw a really neat tutorial showing the Fusible Thread and it worked really neat. I haven't used it yet but am going to purchase some this week to do some appliques's on the tablerunners I am working on. You might check out the tute and see if maybe you would like to try that. I liked the fact that you can separate the bottom to cut it away which takes away the stiffness and bulk. I think it would work really good on circles. Check out the tute. In other times I have used lightweight fusible either wonder under or the other stuff that I call the bumpy stuff for lack of the correct terminology (mind not working today.) Hope this made sense to you.

steelecg 05-03-2011 06:47 AM

I really like Shades soft fuse

Just Me... 05-03-2011 06:47 AM

I'm a Steam A Seam Lite user. Just remember not to use fabric softener with ANY fusible product. It will release from the softener.

trugger 05-03-2011 06:48 AM

Is this right?

With steam-a-seam, I'm never to use oftener when I wash the final product?

CBAKER 05-03-2011 06:50 AM

I've used steamN seam, heat N bond, and then I was introduced to Appli-kay by Florina it is amazing stuff.

JudyM 05-03-2011 06:50 AM

Can one use 505 spray also?

Sew Cindy 05-03-2011 06:54 AM

Yesterday someone listed a link for the tutorials on fusible thread. It is on the superior threads website. I think in the future I will use this because it will make for possibly the softest fabric when finished.
Here's the link:
http://www.superiorthreads.com/video...s-fusible-web/

catrancher 05-03-2011 07:00 AM

I always use Heat N Bond Lite. I've had only good results, and it's less stiff after washing.

grammysharon 05-03-2011 07:56 AM

I use a lot of Heat and Bond lite, but I do not like it for quilts that will be used on beds. I think it is too heavy. I like Steam a seam for bed quilts. Heat and Bond is fine for art quilts or wall hangings, purses, etc. :D

bearisgray 05-03-2011 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by trugger
Is this right?

With steam-a-seam, I'm never to use oftener when I wash the final product?

Good question -

I've heard one should NOT use fabric softeners BEFORE using the iron-on fusibles because they won't stick to the fabric -

I do wonder about AFTER -

Do you make test samples before going on to the whole project?

trugger 05-03-2011 08:04 AM

I always do test samples!
Once this project starts, I'll have an update on 'em.

Just Me... 05-03-2011 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by bearisgray

Originally Posted by trugger
Is this right?

With steam-a-seam, I'm never to use oftener when I wash the final product?

Good question -

I've heard one should NOT use fabric softeners BEFORE using the iron-on fusibles because they won't stick to the fabric -

I do wonder about AFTER -

Do you make test samples before going on to the whole project?

You shouldn't use softener with ANY fusible product. You can check with the manufacturer of your particular product to be sure, but that is my understanding. I had a quilt shop for 8 years.

trugger 05-03-2011 08:08 AM

From Pellon's instruction sheet:


Care Instructions:
Washable, dry cleanable
Machine wash Warm, Delicate cycle.
Do not use fabric softener. Tumble dry Low

brightstar_202 05-03-2011 08:13 AM

I do not know how anyone else feels about heat bond the kind you get from walmart but the strong hold makes the item you are appliquing hard and too tough to sew it will cause you to break needles or to prick yourself many times, now the light is not too bad but myself I do not like the strong at all. I did a hand applique and quilted quilt with that before I really knoew how and it turned out okay but it was hard and tough.

brightstar_202 05-03-2011 08:14 AM

Oh PS: Steam a seem is the best use light

baglady65 05-03-2011 08:25 AM

I buy Heat and Bind byt have 2 big rolls of Aleens and its the best!! I save it for special things for ME. They don't make it anymore.

baglady65 05-03-2011 08:26 AM

and only buy it on sale at Joanns 50% off sales!

northern quilter 05-03-2011 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by icon17
? where do you get your Misty fuse and Wonderunder I've never seen or heard of them here in my area. 8-)

I purchased Misty Fuse from Keepsake Quilting. It does not make the applique stiff at all. Can be purchased in white or black.

jaciqltznok 05-03-2011 09:19 AM

heat n bond is now coming out with "featherweight" fusible...I sell bolts of the heat n bond light each month so I am anxious for the feather weight to arrive so I can see just how much lighter it will be!

penski 05-03-2011 09:22 AM

my favorite is Steam A Seam 2 i have tried heat and bond but did not like it , i always wash my fabric before using anything or sewing with it

3TreeFrog 05-03-2011 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by quiltingaz
Lite Steam-A-Seam2 is what I use. It is lightweight and if you just use it around edges of large pieces you can hardly tell it is there.

I am with Quiltingaz, as that is exactly what I was told at my LQS today!

TreeFrgo

luckylindy333 05-03-2011 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by quiltingaz
Lite Steam-A-Seam2 is what I use. It is lightweight and if you just use it around edges of large pieces you can hardly tell it is there.

I love love love steam a seam!

gotta-sew 05-03-2011 10:07 AM

The price you paid was high. But when you live where those things aren't as accessable you pay what you pay. That's what we do. But when you are in a bigger city or town, load up then, you will save more than half. Should be around $2.00 a yard. good luck.

Judie 05-03-2011 11:21 AM

I usually use steam a seam lite.. I also have used a lot of wonderunder.. I like both products. I have not liked heat and bond that well.. When I use them on a quilt I don't like that stuck down look or feeling, so I cut out the shape, and then cut it again to take out the most of the inside leaving only a quarter inch or less.. I iron that to my applique, cut it to shape, and pull off the small slip of paper left and apply the applique to my piece.. Since I always stitch down my appliques in one fashion or another the bit of fusible left on the fabric disappears under the stitching and the piece feels like it was just stitched on.

Dizzydene 05-03-2011 11:25 AM

Raw edge applique is my favorite. I use heat and bond lite because it works, it's less expensive than steam a seam 2 lite, it stays good for years, it holds in place for years without stitching it down and its available in a roll.

Steam a seam 2 lite is a very nice product, but I think heat and bond lite is easier to use.

Wonderunder may have changed in recent years, but the older it is the less it works, until it doesn't work at all. You used to need to use it within a year or it loses its properties.

writerwomen 05-03-2011 01:04 PM

Wonder under becaue it is readily available at Walmart and the price is right

Kathleen charnell 05-03-2011 01:06 PM

Try the fusible thread by Superior, you'll never have to worry about any stiffness or cutting away any part !!

quilt3311 05-03-2011 01:08 PM

Usually use Wonder Under 805 Works for me.

meanmom 05-03-2011 02:06 PM

I like steam a seam lite the best. It is easy to sew thru and not too stiff. I used it to make a Christmas project a few years ago. It had a lot of small pieces. A 1 inch tall cat has 6 colors. I was worried about it holding so I ran a test. I made one of the sheep and ran it thru the washing machine (with blue jeans and whatever) and dryer 6 times with no fraying. I didn't do any stitching on it. I am now a fan.

KLO 05-03-2011 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by quiltingaz
Lite Steam-A-Seam2 is what I use. It is lightweight and if you just use it around edges of large pieces you can hardly tell it is there.

This is what I use normally and did so on several McKenna Ryan projects. I too cut out the center on the fusible if the pattern piece is large before doing the fusing. Usually I save all those pieces and any others scraps to use on smaller patterns. Hope this helps.

applique 05-03-2011 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by ghostrider
I have to disagree with ckcowl on the batik statement. In my experience, batiks are the best possible fabrics to fuse since the tight weave practically guarantees no fraying of the edges. All fusibles require pre-washing the fabrics in order to adhere properly.

I use Wonder Under (Pellon 805) after having tried Heat'n'Bond and Steam-a-Seam regular and lite, and have never had any problems at all with it. I do fabric collage art quilts and can still hand embroider through 6 layers of fabric and 5 layers of Wonder Under without any strain.

If you want to go with a paperless web, try MistyFuse. It's the lightest weight fusible currently available.

Sandwich the Misty Fuse between two pieces of parchment paper and iron. Now you have a paper backed very light weight fusible.

applique 05-03-2011 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by JudyM
Can one use 505 spray also?

You can use Elmers Washable School Glue. I use it on die cut pieces like those from Keepsake.

ghostrider 05-03-2011 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by applique
Sandwich the Misty Fuse between two pieces of parchment paper and iron. Now you have a paper backed very light weight fusible.

I'll have to try that, thanks. Now that I've learned how to transfer cutting lines directly to the web so I'm not always cutting paper with my good scissors, I've been wanting to try some Misty Fuse. It's nice to know it can be papered if necessary...more versaitile that way.

Dee 05-03-2011 04:35 PM

I like steam to seam. I'll have try misty fuse. Where do you get it?

jacqstash 05-03-2011 04:35 PM

Agree with Carol - steam a seam lite 2 - plus it has the advantage that you can place it on the 'background' material and 'rub it with your hand' to make it 'stick'. Then if the position is not correct, you can remove and replace it. Do this before the final step of ironing it in place for its final spot. This is GREAT IF YOU HAVE MANY PIECES to applique!

FroggyinTexas 05-03-2011 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Darlene
I have used both and prefer the Wonderunder.

Me, too. Heat and bond is too thick and if you want to sew through it, it messes up your needle. froggyintexas

g-maquilts 05-03-2011 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by trugger
Hi Everyone,
I need some expert advice....

I'm wondering what y'all use for applique and how you like it.

For the first time, I used Heat & Bond to applique fun things to the outside of a playhouse for my niece.
It worked well, but it's a little thick.
And, I'm not sure how it will wash.

My next project (or one of my next projects) will be a quilt with many circles appliqued. (not sure of the exact design yet, but I want circles).

Does anyone have any thoughts on how the product used to iron the appliqued piece affects the final quilt?

When I appliqued circles, I did E. Burns method. Light weight fusible interfacing sewed around all the way, cut a small slit in the back, turned right side out, fused to quilt and then zigzagged around. Turned out great. See in my avitar.

Yankee in Texas 05-03-2011 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by icon17
? where do you get your Misty fuse and Wonderunder I've never seen or heard of them here in my area. 8-)

I lived in Bothell,WA for 11 years -- Your JoAnn Fabrics and the Hancock Fabrics both carry wonder under and have for years. I also like to use stitch witchery for applique. And, I agree about using lite - the lightest works best for machine or hand applique work.

rahaube 05-03-2011 07:32 PM

I generally use Wonder Under for my fuseable applique. I had a bad experience with Heat and Bond gumming up my needle and causing problems with my machine. The newer light weight Heat and Bond seems to be better.


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