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scu114 05-14-2012 05:53 PM

Help please. Quilt Top Too Loose
 
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Hello all. I am not sure if this has been posted-nonetheless, I couldn't find a solution. I just know you quilters can help me. I am in over my head but was persuaded to make a signature quilt as a good bye gift for a co-worker. It came together as best as I can do-- decided to free motion a curly Q pattern down and across the green sashings. Believe it or not-- I did alright on the free motion and the back is not puckered. BUT-- the top looks "blousey".

I have attached a picture for reference- the block with the picture towards the bottom-- how loose it is? Others are like this too-- like I didn't have to tight enough when I basted it together. ( But it looked great when I first it)

Now how do I fix it? I cannot take out all the stitching I have done on the machine. I don't know if I can quilt inside each block or if that will intensify the "blouseyness." I tried to hand quilt around one block-- around the edges-- but I don't think it mattered-- may have to do more than one to notice? Do I dare try to "stitch in the ditch" with my machine-- my squares aren't perfectly straight you know. This will make the back look tacky?

Has anyone ever had this happen to them? Did it come more loose as I struggled getting in through my machine? It is pretty "wrinkled" from working it-but that free motion sure looks nice lol.

Just help please-- help me make this presentable"

Thanks so much for ANY help.

Just a beginner...

Prism99 05-14-2012 06:08 PM

I think it just needs more FMQ. I can't really tell from the picture; where all is the quilting design? Is it just through the middle of the rectangular pieces? Or just in the sashing? How far apart are your quilting lines?

If it were me and I were considering SID, I would defnitely do SID only with a serpentine stitch -- much easier on the nerves.

Really, as far as I can tell, it just needs denser FMQ.

Daylesewblessed 05-14-2012 06:13 PM

I agree that it needs some quilting within the blocks. The quilting in the sashing has probably "drawn up" the fabric there, and the fabric around it is not drawn up.
Your free motion looks lovely!
Dayle

crashnquilt 05-14-2012 06:15 PM

Stitch In the Ditch would definately take care of most if not all of your problem. From the looks of it, you might not have basted enough.

scu114 05-14-2012 06:38 PM

Thanks for replies. I tried to baste it and I thought my top looked so nice when I finished. I did pins and hand basted. I think with all the pushing and moving in the machine-loosened it-- is that possible? I need to know for next time right? lol

I did the loopy di loop design FM-- just in the green sashings down and across. The blocks are 5 inch blocks. quilting lines make a 6 1/2 inch grid on the back.

If I do the SID- do I go all around the outside and inside the 5 inch block or in each of the blocks within the 5 inch block? Do I do this with a walking foot or free motion foot? I like the idea of the serpentine stitch -- where would you do that?


I am just beside myself as I was asked to do this for a friend and I couldn't say no-even though they knew I am just learning and now I fear I have made a mess of it.

Thanks for helping me make it presentable.

Lori S 05-14-2012 06:51 PM

[If I do the SID- do I go all around the outside and inside the 5 inch block or in each of the blocks within the 5 inch block? Do I do this with a walking foot or free motion foot? I like the idea of the serpentine stitch -- where would you do that?]


Use a walking foot for a Stitch in the Ditch or even the Serpentine . I would try to get some "balance" in the quilting in other words even amounts in the distance between quilting through out the quilt. this will help with the "looseness" you describe. I would go around that inner signature square with either a Free Motion scroll type or Stitch in the Ditch. The Free Motion might be more forgiving , and be consistant with the other quilting.

sylviak 05-14-2012 06:51 PM

If your machine has the serpentine stitch, use that and go around each block on both sides of the yellow frame. That may be all you need since the blocks are small. That should remove the "blouseyness". The quilt is very pretty! Just center that serpertine stitch on the seam...it's very forgiving, moreso than SID! And yes, use the walking foot!

kitsykeel 05-14-2012 08:28 PM

I have done stitch in the ditch quite a lot, but don't know what serpentine stitch is. Can you help me?

sharon b 05-14-2012 08:44 PM

Serpentine is more of a wiggle stitch as opposed to just a straight stitch- I use that the most that way I don't have to worry about the lines being perfectly straight :) More like this ~~~~~~ than this --------- does that make sense ? Does your machine have built in stitches ? that is where you would look to find this stitch

thimblebug6000 05-15-2012 07:11 AM

What type of batting did you use? Most battings advise how close your quilting design needs to be so that when the quilt is washed the batting doesn't migrate into a lump between the stitching. Your quilt is lovely so far, and if you have a walking foot, stitch nice & slowly allowing the foot to take the 3 layers of the quilt through without puckering. Because you have already done some quilting to stabilize the blocks, I don't think I would choose stitching that butted up to it. I would probably go around the inside blocks, and yes that does make for ALOT of twisting & turning, but hopefully would keep the back from puckering.

kitsykeel 05-15-2012 05:06 PM

Sharon,

Thanks for explaining serpentine stitch. I am definitely going to try it. It can get really frustrating for me when a stitch doesn't stay in the ditch. Just want it to be perfect I guess. Now who am I kidding?

GrannieAnnie 05-15-2012 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by scu114 (Post 5217216)
Hello all. I am not sure if this has been posted-nonetheless, I couldn't find a solution. I just know you quilters can help me. I am in over my head but was persuaded to make a signature quilt as a good bye gift for a co-worker. It came together as best as I can do-- decided to free motion a curly Q pattern down and across the green sashings. Believe it or not-- I did alright on the free motion and the back is not puckered. BUT-- the top looks "blousey".

I have attached a picture for reference- the block with the picture towards the bottom-- how loose it is? Others are like this too-- like I didn't have to tight enough when I basted it together. ( But it looked great when I first it)

Now how do I fix it? I cannot take out all the stitching I have done on the machine. I don't know if I can quilt inside each block or if that will intensify the "blouseyness." I tried to hand quilt around one block-- around the edges-- but I don't think it mattered-- may have to do more than one to notice? Do I dare try to "stitch in the ditch" with my machine-- my squares aren't perfectly straight you know. This will make the back look tacky?

Has anyone ever had this happen to them? Did it come more loose as I struggled getting in through my machine? It is pretty "wrinkled" from working it-but that free motion sure looks nice lol.

Just help please-- help me make this presentable"

Thanks so much for ANY help.

Just a beginner...


thread a needle with the best matching color you can find. Slip between the two yellow squares and sort of tuck a tiny tuck up under the outer square. I had to do that once and it worked quite well.

nativetexan 05-15-2012 05:28 PM

also you might try going a bit slower when you move the quilt doing FMQ, that will make smaller stitches.

scu114 05-15-2012 06:14 PM

Thanks all for the advice. I always learn so much for this forum. I appreciate you taking your time with my struggle. I have a to play with- BEFORE I start in on that quilt again. Thank heavens it's not "due" until Mid June. I will practice on some of this. I do not have the Serpentine switch on my Brother machine- but love that idea-- makes me want to buy a new machine even more :) My feed dogs don't go down either- so I have 2 reasons now hehe. Not sure on the batting- it was a natural, thin batting- I have used in many times with no problems. But again- this is a pretty big project for me-I have done a few quilt as you go-- that is so much simpler with the quilting part. Thanks again-- I will update on my progress- I promise!

MaryKatherine 05-16-2012 03:50 AM

As a LAQ I get quilt tops that are made of different grades of cotton. Some pieces have more stretch than others. This isn't so noticable when the top is being made or ironed, but when it gets pulled taut on the quilting frame the looser weave or stetchier materials show up.
All that said when you wash a quilt and there is a degree of shrinkage, they often puff up. Unless its patchy on yours I wouldn't worry about it. 5 inches between stitch lines is not bad. If you try to SID you may do nothing more that push the offending looseness into the center and make it more puffy. Remeber we are the worst critics of our own work.
If its your work as a gift go ahead and wash it and see what happens.
MaryKatherine

Holice 05-16-2012 04:03 AM

First it needs more quilting SID around large areas. I use large straight pins when there appears to be some excess fabric to work in. Put them in just ahead of the area you are quilting. This way you can ease in any
fullness with the quilting. Dont rely on the walking foot to do all the work for you.
Use the patchwork as a guide for the amount of quilting you need and not the recommendation of the batting manufacturer. I am sure the quilt will droop if you don't put more quilting within the blocks. It all depend on how the quilt is to be used. If as a wall hanging then lots more quilting may be needed.

KR 05-16-2012 04:48 AM

A little more Quilting in the blocks will flatten them out. Maybe some loopies framing the signatures? Your loopies in the sashings look great and the whole quilt is wonderful....your co-worker will love it!!

MissQuilter 05-16-2012 05:01 AM

Sometimes that works itself out once the quilt is washed. Great job. The key, in my opinion, to a wonderful quilt is not perfection, it is the love that is stitched throughout.




Originally Posted by scu114 (Post 5217276)
Thanks for replies. I tried to baste it and I thought my top looked so nice when I finished. I did pins and hand basted. I think with all the pushing and moving in the machine-loosened it-- is that possible? I need to know for next time right? lol

I did the loopy di loop design FM-- just in the green sashings down and across. The blocks are 5 inch blocks. quilting lines make a 6 1/2 inch grid on the back.

If I do the SID- do I go all around the outside and inside the 5 inch block or in each of the blocks within the 5 inch block? Do I do this with a walking foot or free motion foot? I like the idea of the serpentine stitch -- where would you do that?


I am just beside myself as I was asked to do this for a friend and I couldn't say no-even though they knew I am just learning and now I fear I have made a mess of it.

Thanks for helping me make it presentable.


jaciqltznok 05-16-2012 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by crashnquilt (Post 5217245)
Stitch In the Ditch would definately take care of most if not all of your problem. From the looks of it, you might not have basted enough.

ditto this! the general rule of thumb is that no space larger than your closed fist should be UNquilted! meaning about 4-5" of open space! I prefer more like 3-4"! It looks great though, I think you did fine!

patdesign 05-16-2012 05:39 AM

Yes, the first quilt I ever did had this problem in the larget center block which happened to be a print so I outline quilted each of the center blocks. Since this is a signature type, why not use some straight line quilting like diamonds, or spaced lines around the signature blocks. If you are really ambitious you could stipple, but straight spaced pattern would go faster.:)

Geri B 05-16-2012 05:48 AM

you definitely have to secure those blocks either with a SID or serpentine as suggested...then in those signature blocks SID or do an X or something in the colored parts of the signatures to lock that down further, and in the pic block(s) outline that pic to lock it in further. that should eliminate the blousey look......

Momo 05-16-2012 07:16 AM

What a great going away present. I like your colors and your quilting is nice. I'm no one to offer advice as a novice, but reading all the help info is a great help to me.

Mkotch 05-16-2012 08:17 AM

How about criss-crossing the blocks so that there is an "X" in each one?

Latrinka 05-16-2012 09:13 AM

I have no suggestions to help, but it's a pretty quilt!

Jingle 05-16-2012 11:01 AM

I can't help on this one. Next time do quilting of whatever sort in order. I always quilt next to quilting and just do a large stipple or meandering stitch. Make sure your top is flat when you start pinning, I use large safety pins. Don't take out too many while you are quilting. The type of batting you use doesn't matter, I use poly batting.

justflyingin 05-16-2012 12:07 PM

Wow. You've done a tremendous amount of work on that. It looks great, bTW. I'm reading along and learning with you since I wouldn't really know the answer either.

labtechkty 05-16-2012 01:06 PM

I would definitely do more quilting...SID is one way but I like the idea of using a serpentine stitch as well makes it more interesting looking on the front of the quilt as well as the back...

margecam52 05-16-2012 07:49 PM

Go around each block, inside and out. a Serpentine (squiggly) line would work if you free motion it...but even just using your zig zag on a medium width, with a long stitch will work ok. Use the zig zag that is small stitches, not just a zig and a zag...That way you can use a walking foot to do the stitching. I'd use a matching thread or invisible thread.

117becca 05-17-2012 01:50 AM

I agree w/ the probably not enough basting. If you go back to your table top machine, make sure you baste again.

I am not a fan of stitch in the ditch because if you miss the ditch, it can look sloppy. Just my opinion.

I'd probably put an X going thru the boxes. You can use tape to mark the straight lines.

misseva 05-17-2012 08:26 AM

I would definitely wash your quilt before doing anything else to it. It just might shrink the puffs out.

scu114 05-18-2012 12:51 PM

Thanks again. I do think so many of you are right. I did try to baste a lot-- but you know what-- I did remove large areas when I got to that place-- doh:) I would get on such a roll with sewing that I thought I was giving myself room to quilt lol. Well don't think I will do that again.

I do have a question-- For those suggesting crosshatching- are you suggesting I go over the signatures? I can't imagine that.

I may wash it before I do anything else-- that may help- I am guilty of using different fabric-- the peach colored is thinner than the green- so I may very well have that issue with stretching.

I definitely will "rebaste" before doing more sewing-- I have sandwiches made up- so I can practice all the stitches suggested. Hoping to play all weekend:)

Thanks all. You are so right-- the love and prayers for each person who signed the quilt is all that is important. She will love it no matter:)

Sue

scu114 05-19-2012 05:32 PM

Hey everyone---I am so grateful to everyone. I am falling in love with the quilt I am making now. I am doing the SID along the inside borders-- like the serpetine stitch ( I dont have that stitch on m machine) and it is helping so much and it is looking good. Thank you so much for all the pointers. It's a lot of quilting on the machine- but it is not near as scary as I thought it was going to be. I am really thrilled you all have helped me. All the pointers worked! I will post a picture when it is all done.

Thanks again. Sue

teddysmom 05-20-2012 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by Prism99 (Post 5217240)
I think it just needs more FMQ. I can't really tell from the picture; where all is the quilting design? Is it just through the middle of the rectangular pieces? Or just in the sashing? How far apart are your quilting lines?

If it were me and I were considering SID, I would defnitely do SID only with a serpentine stitch -- much easier on the nerves.

Really, as far as I can tell, it just needs denser FMQ.


Am new at this. What is a serpentine stitch?


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