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kbiederman 01-22-2010 10:41 PM

I am attempting to machine quilt for the first time and I am having so much dificulty! Even though I pinned it to death, the fabric is still bunching a little on the back, and I ended up just taking out what I have done so far. What do I do now? I was so excited to about learning this part of it, and now all I have it a backache. :? Thanks, Karen

amma 01-22-2010 10:49 PM

Are your pins no more than 4inches apart? I tried going further and it bunched up horribly.
Are you using a walking foot?

amma 01-22-2010 10:50 PM

Did you stretch the backing out and secure it before placing the batting and top on it?

memathomas 01-23-2010 02:38 AM

i use basting spray if it's not on a frame and safety pins and start in the middle of the quilt but i still stop and check it just in case.. i prefer a frame

mema

lisalovesquilting 01-23-2010 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by amma
Did you stretch the backing out and secure it before placing the batting and top on it?

This is good advice. A very important step.

Lisa_wanna_b_quilter 01-23-2010 07:00 AM

I was told to starch the backing like crazy. I've done that on each of my quilts and have not had a bunching problem.

LOTS of starch and LOTS MORE pins. I was told to make a fist. Anywhere you put your fist down, it should be touching pins.

shaverg 01-23-2010 07:07 AM

Do you have a walking foot? It will definitely bunch up on the back if you don't use a walking foot.

Marge Q 01-23-2010 07:15 AM

Maybe your bobbin tension is too tight. Are you using the same weight thread? You can purchase a special bobbin case for some machines for quilting/stippling.

I usually start in the center of the quilt and quilt outward.

When layering the quilt, I use masking tape to tape the corners of the backing to my kitchen floor; then place the batting on top, then the quilt top and pin. Next I flip it over to check for ripples and try to get it as smooth as possible. (My knees and back do not like this technique! LOL)

Hope this helps.

kbiederman 01-23-2010 08:16 AM

I did pin about every 5 inches, but did not secure the corners. I do not have a walking foot, and have not tried starching. Looks like I have a lot more to do to machine quilt it! I have a year old Singer Simple, works very well for what I have needed it for, but where do I find a walking foot? I am so thankful to have this board to ask, instead of spending years trying to figure what I'm doing wrong!! Thank you for taking the time to give all the awesome advice! Karen

shaverg 01-23-2010 08:21 AM

I think if you can get a walking foot you will notice a huge difference. My quilting friend who is brand new to quilting was having the same problem and was getting discouraged. I convinced or to get a walking foot. She has mad 12+ quilts in about 8 months now and she was a brand new quilter.

She now believes in the walking foot.

Marge Q 01-24-2010 04:19 PM

You can get a walking foot at a quilt show; I picked up an inexpensive generic one for a Featherweight for about
$13.00. Check your local fabric stores. I know that Joann's
has them; you could also check a sew and vac repair shop. Just make sure it's compatible with your machine. Lastly, you can always find one online. Walking feet really make a difference.

kbiederman 01-24-2010 04:28 PM

A generic walking foot at JoAnns? I know I asked them if they had ones for Singers and they said no. Is Featherweight the brand? I have spray basted, repinned (about every 2 inches now) and started sewing right on the inside of every block. It is quite tedious, but seems to be paying off, no huge mishaps yet! I would still like to get the walking foot to do some more inside each of the blocks, so I am anxious to get it done this week. Thanks for the tip!

Marge Q 01-24-2010 04:40 PM

Sorry, a Featherweight is a really old Singer machine from the 1930s to 50s. They weight about 10 pounds and are great for traveling or quilt workshops. They only have one stitch.

As for the walking foot at Joann's, it was with the sewing machine attachments and I didn't pay to much attention to it as I had one already, it looked like the one that I had picked up at the show. I have a Janome 6600 which has accufeed, a built in foot if you care to use it, so a walking foot is not needed.

I'm glad that your quilting is getting better. The more you do it, the better you get. And the prep does really pay off. I'm always so anxious to get started, that I used to cut corners - not any more.

quiltingmom86 01-24-2010 06:43 PM

I ordered my walking foot from Keepsake quilting. Would not do without it now.
It is worth the money for sure.
good luck.
quiltingmom86

sewnsewer2 01-24-2010 06:54 PM

Karen, if you are doing free motion drop the feed dogs and use your darning foot. Up if you are doing straight lines with a walking foot.

Astramorgaine 01-24-2010 08:21 PM

I just got a generic walking foot today from Joann's. I think there is a 50% off coupon on their site right now. I have a singer 7444, and it went right on, no problem. I tested a scrap sandwich piece with it and without it, and could really tell the difference! Can't wait to get the next top done lol Good luck to ya :)

nellebelles 01-25-2010 01:03 AM

Another tip: the size of safety pins can make a huge difference when you are pin basting a quilt. If the safety pins are too big, they can slip around after you've pinned the quilt sandwich together. I like to use fairly small ones so that this doesn't happen. Ask me how I know this... :-(

ConnieF 01-25-2010 02:53 AM

First Question what is the size of this quilt?

Quilting on a reg machine?

You are quilting then binding it?

KK2000 is so wonderfullllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

ConnieF

ConnieF 01-25-2010 02:59 AM

Allso how are you quilting this? Freehand or in the ditch or?

For free hand like stipling or you need to drop the feed dogs.

And yes always start from the center and work your way out.

The basting spray is what I always use now. Just make sure no steam tll it is all gone or use a DRY iron over it and it will go away...

Connie F

kbiederman 01-25-2010 07:46 AM

The unfinished top is about 59x79. I am free motion quilting it on my Singer, regular machine. I was aphrensive to stich in the ditch, as it would show how I can NOT stich a straight line that has to show. (Especially on the back where it would be plainly evident!)
I am making a d9p, and started with sewing inside each of the blocks. Instead of stiching in the ditch, I made a "wavy" line around the inside of each block. (I am sure there is a name for it but I don't know it.) This gave me more "room" for mistakes :)
Don't laugh, but I am not altogether sure how to drop the feed dogs on my machine, and I was scared that the quilt would go all over the place if I did. This is somewhat of a "practice" quilt for one I want to make for my DD, and didn't want to "figure it out" on hers. I am hoping to get out and find a walking foot today, and either use it to finish my blocks, or to do some additional quilting inside the blocks once I have them all done.
SOOOO, what can you tell me that I should do differently on the REAL one? Lol, this one has turned out beautifully. Thanks for all your help!! ~K

sewnsewer2 01-25-2010 08:47 AM

If you haven't already, please post a pic so we can see it.

memathomas 02-12-2010 04:19 AM

we want to see it

ConnieF 02-12-2010 04:26 AM

If you are doing freemotion you have to drop the feed dogs,

but if just st n the ditch you can leave them up. If the feeddogs do not drop there is usually a cover for them...

The basting spray keeps all together ad no pins to watch for

deedles215 02-12-2010 04:55 AM

Yeah, yeah, post a picture!! :)

auburngal 02-12-2010 07:06 AM

Sounds like you are determined to figure this out, so I am sure that you will get the hang of it.

I may be repeating some advice here:

Walking Foot is for Straight Lines...
Stippling or Meandering is what you were talking about when creating the wavy lines or turning curves, etc.

To do straight lines, you leave the feed dogs up.
To do Free Motion Quilting, you drop the Feed Dogs or cover them and You control the length of the stitches by moving the fabric with your hands. Free Motion needs to be practiced on a sandwich of scrap fabric with batting and backing to get the hang of it. Use a Darning Foot for free motion quilting. That's the basics of machine quilting. The thread that you use and the needle, etc. will affect the tension especially of the bobbin which can sometimes be a problem.
Hope this helps. Am still learning my self.

memathomas 02-12-2010 11:09 AM

you should look at the quilting videos on u tube to be positive what you want to do and how to do it they have all kinds of info there.
good luck
mema

bearisgray 02-12-2010 11:20 AM

What kind of batting are you using?

If it's thick and/or bulky, that will make it harder to handle.

Have you tried practicing on some scraps that are the same thicknesses as your quilt?

kbiederman 02-12-2010 12:03 PM

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Ok, so I have put it aside for a few weeks, and now I am finally back up and running (even if it does feel like I am running with my shoelaces tied!).
Here is what I have done. I have been practicing with with my embroidery foot, and hate it for now, or should I say it hates me. I am using poly batting, did a fair job of basting (I know a little better of what to do differently next time anyway). I am just manupilating my quilt one way and then another, to create the "meandering". I know that this is probably the complete wrong way to do it, but my feed dogs don't go down, the fd cover doesn't work well, and I was all and all making a huge mess and not accomplishing anything. It is surprisingly easy for me to "meander", besides shoving my quilt through the inside of my sewing machine and being pin-pricked to death. Soooo, I have all of the middle ones sewn just inside the block, and am not sure what I am going to do inside of each one. I was thinking of just sewing diagionally through the corner and middle of every block. Thanks for the imput!!

nativetexan 02-12-2010 12:12 PM

you can always get some basting spray. sulky or 505. since you took it apart, that would certainly help you.
you spray the backing and smooth the batting over it. then spray the top and smooth over the batting.
i tend to use fusible batting-i'm lazy and old!!
oh, i see it's done. great quilt. meandering is fine. if you have trouble doing straight lines across a quilt, simply wiggle to the left and wiggle to the right, meandering across. looks great!

MadQuilter 02-12-2010 12:28 PM

I generally quilt SID and tried my hand at FMQ - what a disaster. Before I actually work on a "real" quilt, I plan to do a LOT of practicing. When I had to pull the stitches out using a magnifying glass, I decided to throw in the towel for now.

Have you checked out Leah Day's blog? She has a section for a quilt pattern a day and she has them broken into beginner/intermediate/advanced categories. Her approach is to work with a small sample until you get the hang of it. All I NEED is TIME.

chris_quilts 02-12-2010 02:22 PM

Karen, Love the quilt colors. It is very pretty. When I stitch in the ditch, I meander aqnd it shows but I give my quilts to people who are thrilled to have one that's been hand made. Just keep ast it, the free motion, and it does get easier.

Oklahoma Suzie 02-12-2010 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by shaverg
I think if you can get a walking foot you will notice a huge difference. My quilting friend who is brand new to quilting was having the same problem and was getting discouraged. I convinced or to get a walking foot. She has mad 12+ quilts in about 8 months now and she was a brand new quilter.

She now believes in the walking foot.

I need to get a walking foot too

cuppi duke 02-12-2010 03:03 PM

You might also try a quilt as you go design. I have arthritis in my hands and can't grip the fabric tight enough for a full sized quilt when I am quilting. I usually construct my quilt in smaller sections and quilt them and then sew it together. I do the main body first or block by block, then attach the borders and quilt them. A good pattern book for this type of quilt is written by Eleanor Burns I believe. Her log cabin book or quilt as you go are both good. I like this method as you aren't fighting all the weight of a big quilt. Also, are you rolling your quilt ends up tightly? I find that I don't even have to pin if it is rolled good. And batting makes a difference. I think poly batting causes it to bunch and buckle more than cotton. I use cotton-80 % cotton and 20 % poly.

memathomas 02-12-2010 03:14 PM

have you tried the warm and natural batting its thiner and easier to work with also there is such a thing as a summer quilt that does not require any batting

deedles215 02-21-2010 09:10 PM

I think you should do more meandering- and I think you've got it secure enough that you could take out more pins so your hands aren't getting so chewed up?
Good luck! Can't wait to see it finished!

memathomas 02-21-2010 11:25 PM

i know you have tried all the things suggested but i have two more one is fyi and that is when your piecing quilt make sure you stitches are not to small (tight) it will keep it from laying flat. the other thing that makes a big difference is i use the gloves that have a grip finish then i can keep the area i am fmq smooth with out a lot of mussel because i have arthur the gloves help me move my quilt without getting tired too soon it comes out nice and smooth.
good luck
hugs mema

knlsmith 02-22-2010 05:38 AM

Spray Baste. June tailor at Walmsrt seems to b the cheapest i've found. Right around $8

kbiederman 02-22-2010 11:54 AM

Thank you all so much for the wonderful sugestions!! I have tried many/most of them. I now have all my blocks quilted just inside each seam. Now, what is the rule of thumb as to how big of a space you need to quilt? Thank you! ~Karen

amma 02-22-2010 12:39 PM

That info should be on the package the batting comes in...some are every 4 sq inches, others can be further apart... I can't wait to see your finished quilt :D:D:D


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