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City 02-22-2011 08:22 AM

After a night of thinking it over - I have come to the decision that since you both KNOW the designer, best thing to do is to tell 'your friend' to call the designer friend herself and ASK for a (free) copy of the pattern.... then she can have her own.

apples galore 02-22-2011 09:34 AM

You must also "not give up one inch". Anyone that would expect you to do this is not your friend, so ending this is not your problem. Cut your losses before anything else is expected of you! You will however have to be very matter-of-fact and just say, NO. Sorry that you have to do this. Patty

quiltmaker 02-22-2011 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by shequilts
A close friend of mine designed and copyrighted a beautiful 12 Days of Christmas BOM. I participated and gladly paid the monthly fee. Like so many exceptional BOMs, it wasn't cheap!
Tonight, a mutual acquaintance of both the designer and me, called to ask if I had made the BOM. I responded that I had. She immediately said, "Oh goody, I'll have to get a copy. It's too expensive to buy."
I was floored! I said, "You know it's copyrighted." She did not back up one inch. She proceeded to try to make a date to come by and get the pattern. I literally made up every excuse in the world why not this week. I have no intention of giving it to her, but don't want a confrontation. I just keep hoping she'll forget about it if I make it inconvenient for her.
I'm so annoyed about this. I know what I'm going to do and I'll end up having to end this relationship.
What would you have done?


I am simply amazed at the sheer number of pages on this topic when you already know it is a violation of copyright law as stated in your thread. Why would one need opinions or affirmation in doing what you know is right and legal? For me and I would hope many others it is a no brainer. Not being harsh or anything just wondering.......it should be obvious that a friendship is not worth having if they wanted you to break the law.

BellaBoo 02-22-2011 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by quiltmaker
Why would one need opinions or affirmation in doing what you know is right and legal

One needs opinions or affirmations to feel at ease about a situation. It has nothing to do with being legal or being right. This is why the board is such a great place. Posters commiserate with each other so diversely and wonderfully.

Margie 02-22-2011 11:09 AM

Just say NO .....it is a copyright and unlawful to copy.

Marvel 02-22-2011 11:45 AM

If you wanted it enough to pay for it... well give her the adress of where she can buy her own copy. Tell her you do not want to go to jail for giving it to her.She will understand. You can't do things like that for her. If she is a good friend she should understand.

Alexa 02-22-2011 11:58 AM

I am a musician as well as a quilter and this is one area my two worlds overlap. This is a teaching moment. See if you can get her to understand that the designer put lots of time and effort into producing that design and it is really unfair for anyone to give it away for free. It is hard enough for independent designers (or musicians for that matter) to make enough money back on their work to make it worthwhile to continue. And without these independents our world would be less joyful, creative, inspiring, and free.

AnnieH 02-22-2011 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by OneMoreQuilt
Maybe you could put it back on her. Say, "Is this a test? You know it's copyrighted and I can't give it to you. Are you trying to see if I'd cheat?".

Great idea.

shequilts 02-22-2011 12:12 PM

If I do say so, this has been an interesting thread. 'Lots of views and some wonderful comments. After reading this comment, it reminded me of the old game "Whisper."You know the one, you whisper something in one person's ear, who then whispers it into another ear, and another and so on. By the time it gets back to the original whisperer, the story has changed dramatically.
In my post, I stated that I already knew how I would eventually handle this and in the interest of conversation, asked, "how would you respond?' I did not ask for opinion or affirmation.
If I seem weak to some for dreading confrontation, so be it.
I have mellowed with my years and no longer see the need, nor do I have the time, for any confrontation. My time is too valuable.
That said, my "acquaintance" will be coming by tonight.
I think it's time.




I am simply amazed at the sheer number of pages on this topic when you already know it is a violation of copyright law as stated in your thread. Why would one need opinions or affirmation in doing what you know is right and legal? For me and I would hope many others it is a no brainer. Not being harsh or anything just wondering.......it should be obvious that a friendship is not worth having if they wanted you to break the law.[/quote]

Crafty Chick 02-22-2011 12:36 PM

Stick to your guns! A true friend would not ask that of a friend. You mentioned it was a mutual acquaintance of yours and the designer. If she continues to be persistant, refer her to the designer who has the copyright. As I tell my son: "As you go through life, you have many acquaintances but only a few true friends. If you make this acquaintance mad with your decision, it is just one less acquaintance to deal with.


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