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FroggyinTexas 03-15-2012 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by alikat110 (Post 5060980)
hehehehe....at 80, she probably no longer has a filter. I'm sure she truly didn't understand how quilt policey she sounded!

I think you need to check your own filter, my dear. Being 80 does not automatically relegate anyone to filterless status and to assume so is demeaning and insulting. Think on this: unless you die younger, you will live to be 80.
Perhaps your filter will have improved by that time.
froggyintexas

justflyingin 03-15-2012 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by FroggyinTexas (Post 5062615)
I think you need to check your own filter, my dear. Being 80 does not automatically relegate anyone to filterless status and to assume so is demeaning and insulting. Think on this: unless you die younger, you will live to be 80.
Perhaps your filter will have improved by that time.
froggyintexas

This is so true. My mom is 80 this year and while she may have said some thoughtless things in the past (as we ALL do), she wouldn't be rude like this!! I've known some really, truly sweet and gracious 80-year-olds. IMO, unless you have lost your mind and really can't control it, there is no excuse for rudeness at any age.

Of course, people who are without control physically, due to actual dementia, or whatever, it is a different matter, but that doesn't sound like this woman's problem (as in OP).

DonnaC 03-15-2012 11:02 AM

She probably also stands in the doorway and hollers "You kids get off my lawn!!!" LOL

gotta-sew 03-15-2012 11:28 AM

We don't build a fire to toast our bread, we don't mind electric windows, need I go on? LA quilting is a skill. You don't just walk up to one and wala presto beautiful quilting. It takes practice and lots of it. I know, I teach LA quilting. She just doesn't understand. Even in my grandma's day there were critics, how many stitches can you get on your needle at one time? If you got two or twelve, is the quilt any less quilted? I don't think so. Put your headphones back on and quilt and rock on!

roseirish48 03-15-2012 11:33 AM

i hand quilt my quilts. dont own a LA and cant afford one. I believe that it is one's own choice to machine vs hand quilt.
My question is this: if you only piece the top and have someone else do the quilting, shouldn't both get credit for making the quilt?

jeemmerling621 03-15-2012 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by roseirish48 (Post 5062808)
i hand quilt my quilts. dont own a LA and cant afford one. I believe that it is one's own choice to machine vs hand quilt.
My question is this: if you only piece the top and have someone else do the quilting, shouldn't both get credit for making the quilt?


Yes, I think the one who quilts should get just as much credit as the piecer, but that's not often the case, unfortunately. The shop owner from whom I rent the LA does some of the most beautiful quilting I have ever seen and, in my opinion, doesn't get enough credit for the amount of time, energy, and love she puts into each quilt.

luvTooQuilt 03-15-2012 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by SoSewSue (Post 5061466)
Eighty year olds with no verbal filters. You just have to chuckle to yourself.

After all did you machine piece or hand piece? huh cheating. Did you rotary cut or use scissors ? Huh cheating. Did you drive your car to the shop or take your horse ? huh cheating. :o



ROFL.. :thumbup: :thumbup:

seamstome 03-15-2012 12:16 PM

How could she defile her quilts by not looming her own cloth!

Rosyhf 03-15-2012 12:48 PM

Now see I would have engaged her in a conversation like this....I would have asked her if she cooked on an electric stove when she cooked and if she said yes, I would ask her why she didn't stay with the old wood stove or cooked out side in a pit. Same for the toilet hahahahahahahh and the list could go on....

momto5 03-15-2012 01:21 PM

Now what kind of a community are we if we can't let a LOL have some fun? ROFLMBO and sympathizing with you. I've never run into anyone quite that rude, and I don't know what might happen if I did...but you did the right thing and I'm sure it deflated her right quick...you rock!

Rosewood9 03-15-2012 01:34 PM

I agree with Jingle, she was just plain rude.

Just Me... 03-15-2012 05:36 PM

I tease the Hubs that I can't wait to be old enough to say whatever is on my mind and have people just shrug their shoulders and say "Oh, she's older...." Wonder what that age is? ROFL Having a shop, I had 'those' ladies in all the time. Even had one ask me where I got a pattern. I said it was "Free" online. She said, "Well, I guess you got what you paid for!" Water off a duck's back....different strokes....

leggz48 03-15-2012 05:45 PM

My momma said, "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything!"......however, at 80, she's probably a little bitter about a lot of things. Quilt on.....!

2manyhobbies 03-16-2012 03:21 AM

I've gotten that one too, and also with audiobooks, which I listen to while sewing, cleaning, driving, you name it. To the audio issue, I reply that in a too visual world, the art of listening has been lost. I'm honing my listening skills. That keeps 'em quiet. As for the quilting issue, I tell a friend (who has had the luxury of not having to work, so she has done all her quilts by hand), "I'll get to hand quilting in my next life."

be a quilter 03-16-2012 03:25 AM

Why are we so quick to jump in with a nasty response? You can't criticize someone for being rude and mean on one hand and then retaliate by being rude and mean to them. That is really the pot calling the kettle black. Your mama was right, if you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing at all!! You did good!!!!

solstice3 03-16-2012 04:12 AM

She needs more to quilt. Get her address!! :-) Got to love her!

SunlitenSmiles 03-16-2012 04:23 AM

Laughing because I have heard FMQ (DSM) dig at FMQ (LA) amd FMQ(LA) nose in air at LA (Pantos) and LA(Pantos) saying Computerized Quilting (even when the person designed and digitized the program themself) was cheating

Someone else already said this "these are all different skill sets","Quilt On"is the attitude!

when the cavepeople fingerpainted on walls betting the first person who used a stick was called cheater

Sorry someone in my generation was so rude to you, so onward Quilters, to infinity and beyond !

robinsonkh 03-16-2012 04:29 AM

Well, I am not 80 but am closer than I want to be. One of the things that come with age is what we like to consider wisdom. Unfortunately, it is easily confused with opinion which we feel the need to share with everyone in case they miss the opportunity for our "wisdom". One of the great things about quilting is that it is yours. What you do, how you do it and why you do it is up to you. If you sew straight, match seams and end up with straight sides it is right and yours to do with as you please.

sparkys_mom 03-16-2012 04:31 AM

I would bet that she uses electricity and indoor plumbing! :)

sguillot 03-16-2012 05:12 AM

[That was very insinistive. My Mother was an expert sewer and quilter and did most everything by had, ever peiced but that was her choice. Of course back then Long Arms weren't even around at least I had never heard of them. I do what I do in her honor and I know she is very proud of me even though it not that great and would love all the new things available to make live easier for the next generation. So I say to each his own and to be critical of something new or that is not your style is not nice and very narrow minded. You did good by not lashing back. You were much nicer than I think I could have been.QUOTE=jeemmerling621;5060957]I rent a longarm at my LQS and was quilting today (I.e. with headphones and tuned out to the world). A customer comes into the classroom where the longarms are and gets my attention and proclaims that what I am doing "is cheating, and defiling my quilt". I literally stood there speechless. She was in her 80's (I'm guessing) and has probably only ever hand quilted, but her total lack of filter just baffled me.

I had to get that off my chest :) I am so glad we all do our own thing on the Board and respect each other's amazing work![/QUOTE]

2manyhobbies 03-16-2012 05:34 AM

I think the word 'defiling' hit a nerve for some!

duckydo 03-16-2012 05:49 AM

That was rude, I don't know why when folks get older they think they have the right to be rude!!!

margee 03-16-2012 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by caspharm (Post 5062587)
I'm glad you just let it go. Quilting definitely allows different strokes for different folks, so best to ignore the quilt police.

Personally, I prefer doing LA quilting to home machine quilting (I tend to do large quilts, don't like fighting all the fabric layers, and was lucky to be able to afford to buy one after years of renting) and I prefer using pantographs to computerized quilting (feels more handmade to me).

That being said, I have taken several quilt classes from award winning teachers that sew large quilts on home machines (Diane Gaudynski and Susan Rasmussen) and enjoyed them immensely. Some of their tips also carry over to LA use. I have also seen computerized quilts that are lovely. I also admire handquilting, but I also tried that and my hands don't like it.

I agree. Each to his own. However, I think that maybe this woman was only trying to make conversation. I am just learning hand quilting & enjoy the warm feeling it gives me. But--I would give my eyeteeth to have a LA but it will never happen because of $. And most people back in her day were taught to make do with what you have. I never ever would have thought that I would enjoy handquilting so much since I was learning machine quilting on a home machine. Can you tell that I am one that is resistant to change?

Patchwork Pam 03-16-2012 06:11 AM

WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can you say keep your negative oppinions to yourself. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No excuse for rudeness. You qualify for sainthood, as I would have been sorely tempted to ask her if she had left her good manners at home. lol

GladGrams 03-16-2012 06:19 AM

You came face-to-face with the "Real Quilt Police!" Glad you made it out okay.

Grandma Peg 03-16-2012 06:32 AM

You did great in not saying anything. Each person choses the method of quilting that works best for her. Not everyone is a good hand quilter and not everyone can machine quilt. So if my quilt is larger than a baby quilt it has to go to LAQ.

janny40 03-16-2012 06:36 AM

Let it go in one ear and out the other. I have a long arm quilting machine, I can do one in about 5-6 days depending on how much I work on it. I don't try to hurry. I have done hand quilting and it takes a long time. That is why I decided to buy my long arm. I didn't get too expensive, I have a 15" Bailely Longarm. I plan to invest in a stitch regulator soon. I don't regret buying it, only wish I would have gotten a different quilting frame, I guess I will have to deal with this one. I would have liked to have more space to quilt and have it a little wider. I'm enjoying it anyway.

nhnative 03-16-2012 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by jeemmerling621 (Post 5060957)
I rent a longarm at my LQS and was quilting today (I.e. with headphones and tuned out to the world). A customer comes into the classroom where the longarms are and gets my attention and proclaims that what I am doing "is cheating, and defiling my quilt". I literally stood there speechless. She was in her 80's (I'm guessing) and has probably only ever hand quilted, but her total lack of filter just baffled me.

I had to get that off my chest :) I am so glad we all do our own thing on the Board and respect each other's amazing work!

I live in Ohio and I have found lately a number of people that are just rude. So many people here are sooooooo friendly that it just surprises me. Your just being speechless was probably a good thing to do. I work at a few charity groups that have a lot of old people working too and I've had to bite my tongue a few times.

butterflies5518 03-16-2012 07:09 AM

I am just as proud of the quilts I quilted as I am of those I had Heather (hperttula123) of this board do!

Olivia's Grammy 03-16-2012 07:16 AM

I have a 94 yo LAM client that says she has to hurry to get all her quilts finished. Maybe the two could meet and compare notes. :)

BarbaraSue 03-16-2012 07:18 AM

It is sad that some can only think one way to do anything. But this isn't age related entirely. I am proud of one guild I belong to. The ones that long arm aren't just younger ones. We have several over 70 that long arm and FMQ. Forward thinkers is what I call them.

Sorry you had this confrontation. Be proud that you didn't escillate the encounter with more fire. I don't think I could've been so lucky.

Grace MooreLinker 03-16-2012 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by alikat110 (Post 5060980)
hehehehe....at 80, she probably no longer has a filter. I'm sure she truly didn't understand how quilt policey she sounded!

sorry that being 80 is hehehe, that has nothing to do with it, I'm 77 and a quilter.
I do not tell others what they can or can't do on their quilts.

AndiR 03-16-2012 07:35 AM

When someone tries to tell me that LA quilting is 'cheating', I ask them if they still take their laundry down to the creek and beat it against the rocks to get it clean. After all, using one of those newfangled automatic washing and drying machines would be cheating, wouldn't it??? :D:D:D

EagarBeez 03-16-2012 07:45 AM

It's your quilt, do it as you please. The elderly woman should have kept her comments to herself. As the saying goes "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all". You were not asking her opinion.

Murphy 03-16-2012 07:48 AM

No it is not cheating. You might ask to see her beautiful quilts as well (smile). We do lose our filters as we get older :-0. Thank you for sharing.

JudeWill 03-16-2012 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by alikat110 (Post 5060980)
hehehehe....at 80, she probably no longer has a filter. I'm sure she truly didn't understand how quilt policey she sounded!

You're probably right about the filter. I tell my DH a lot that if I can't do what I want at 69, when can I? Unfortunately, I think some people think that goes for saying whatever they want. Just consider the source & laugh!

KwiltyKahy 03-16-2012 07:58 AM

I truly believe that if our great-great-grandmothers had had machines, they would have used them too.

QuilterMomma 03-16-2012 08:55 AM

If longarm quilting is a no no, then they need to put me in jail totally. I can't get my quilts done without it. No matter how I try, hand quilting takes way to long for my attention span, still working on one after 8 years, and when i used my domestic machine, i always get tucks in the back. it is just how it is for me.

Caryn 03-16-2012 08:57 AM

bless your heart. i wish i could afford to own or rent a longarm quilting machine..but the machines i use (mid arm sewing machine and the treadle sewing machine will just have to do. i can understand the elderly womans perspective though...there are those quilts that have been longarmed that look like mattress pads. the lady was just ignorant about such machines and what they are capable of doing. that is not such a bad thing-maybe her daughter or granddaughter refuse to learn to do things the old way and that can be a bitter pill for her to swallow so she criticizes everyone who does something new.

Nina Baker 03-16-2012 09:44 AM

Reminds me of the group of 80 yr olds who told me you can't possibly get a block square unless you hand piece it. So glad that as I now am closer to 80 than I want to be that I know better. Love my Pfaff


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