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valsma 03-16-2012 10:01 AM

At 80 she can say whatever she wants even rude comments. Consider, her generation probably grew up learning hand quilting. However if longarm quilting is cheating, then a lot of people cheat.
I didn't even know some LQS allow you to rent their Longarms. I will have to check into this with our local LQS. That would be something I would be interested in learning and doing.

misseva 03-16-2012 10:31 AM

I am 76 and it's been my experience that old people who say whatever they think did it when they were young too. My mother was 96 when she died and while she would voice her opinion to me and my daughter she would never say rude things to others. So..... age has nothing to do with rude comments. When we're young we have to be more careful of what we say because most people won't let us get away with it. I had a sister-in-law that spoke her mind from the time she was young and her excuse was 'I just can't help it -that's the way I am".

daisey 03-16-2012 10:37 AM

they are both just different kinds of quilting...I actually like my machine quilting better than hand quilting although that is lovely too! To each their own. She also probably doesnt realize they are both hard and both forms of art.
I wish I could do hand quilting sometimes but I cant,,a little bit of carpel tunnel..So I know sometimes I feel that way about computerized quilting and I had to stop myself and say,.,,Hey that is art too and to each their own! I hope you got your quilt done and its great that you are doing it yourself!

pdriggs 03-16-2012 01:42 PM

There is a portion of the brain, I think in the frontal part, that controls your ability to stop yourself from inappropriate speech. As you age it deteriorates, and some people never understand that they are saying offensive things. I think there are some out there, who have always been offensive, and it just gets worse as they age. Some of them justify it when they are younger as 'just being truthful' when they are just being tactless. I personally prefer a little white lie and being told what I did was just great!
Phyllis

Rose_P 03-16-2012 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by Sadiemae (Post 5061083)
If she would like to quilt all of my tops, I will let her.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

BuzzinBumble 03-16-2012 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Lori S (Post 5061912)
Your gratious lack of response was problably to most appropriate response.
At that age ( I am just learning) .. you just never know what will come out of their mouths.

jeemmerling - your story is actually pretty funny once you get over the shock of it. Gosh I have seen an awful lot of gorgeous "defiled" quilts then! :) Lori had the truth of it: your polite non-reaction was best.
So many of the replies here are funny. But, humor or indignation aside, I would like to add this:

I volunteered with the elderly for many years and know that aging effects each of us in such varied ways. People tend to assume that the person was always rude or inconsiderate, or etc. But there is every chance that this lady was not like this her whole life. When confronted with innapropriate behavior in an elderly person, please keep in mind that you just never know what it is that removed their social filters. I have had knowledge of several people's characters beforehand and know they would now be mortified by their current behavior. So, yes, she was unbelievably rude, but polite tolerance should be the response. Remember the saying "There, but for the grace of God, go I."


cathyvv 03-16-2012 07:15 PM

At 80 years old, her mind may have slipped back to 5 years old. Or she could just be one of those people who never mastered manners...we all know a few of them.

litacats 03-16-2012 07:30 PM

What a shame to have you quiet quilting time ruined by someone. machine quilting just as important and in some cases more acceptable to people than hand quilting. I only machine quilt now I did the hand quilting many years ago and got bored with the time it took finish the quilt.
no matter what method you use it is ok. it is an individual choice.

GrannieAnnie 03-16-2012 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by jeemmerling621 (Post 5060957)
I rent a longarm at my LQS and was quilting today (I.e. with headphones and tuned out to the world). A customer comes into the classroom where the longarms are and gets my attention and proclaims that what I am doing "is cheating, and defiling my quilt". I literally stood there speechless. She was in her 80's (I'm guessing) and has probably only ever hand quilted, but her total lack of filter just baffled me.

I had to get that off my chest :) I am so glad we all do our own thing on the Board and respect each other's amazing work!


Were her initials CLK? 80+ lady from church has banned me to hell for having our last raffle quilt machine quilted. And I've already got a couple cussing for the upcoming.

bunbytes 03-17-2012 12:23 AM

How considerate of her to take the time out of her busy schedule to develop such an interest in your project! Maybe she's the one the "Church Lady" on SNL was bases on.

GrannieAnnie 03-17-2012 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by bunbytes (Post 5066922)
How considerate of her to take the time out of her busy schedule to develop such an interest in your project! Maybe she's the one the "Church Lady" on SNL was bases on.

I don't watch SNL. Does the church lady insist everyone live by her rules?

tate_elliott 03-17-2012 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by jeemmerling621 (Post 5060957)
. . . proclaims that what I am doing "is cheating,

I'll have to check my quilting rulebook, I must have missed that page.

Tate

AlaskaAlice 03-17-2012 01:14 PM

Wow! I have so many quilts to make for my loved ones..it was taking me a couple years to make and hand quilt each one so last year I bought a quilting machine and table..now I can quilt them in a week..they look good..I make my own free hand designs.. I want them to cuddle up in them and know that every stitch in them is a symbol of how much I pray for and love them... machine quilting is like line drawing...such fun!!! I am 75...I have at least 11 more grand kids to get a quilt made for..plus christmas and birthdays...other people to bless..I love machine quilting!!!!!

pacquilter 03-17-2012 05:17 PM

I think it may have more to do with the person than their age. Right now I have a quilt being done by an 82 year old long arm quilter!!!

RugosaB 03-17-2012 07:05 PM

I think I would have asked her if she still cooks over an open fire and hangs ALL her laundry out to dry? And then I'd ask her where she hitched her horse because I'm sure she didn't DRIVE there

Chasing Hawk 03-17-2012 07:08 PM

Doesn't she have any great grandkids to hassle?

Jannie 03-17-2012 08:31 PM

I don't have time to hand quilt everyone I do. For quilts I want used and dragged around, I would hate to put that much time into it. Besides, I don't have a room where I can put a quilt up and leave it until it is done. Long arm or machine quilting works fine for me.

GrannieAnnie 03-17-2012 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by pacquilter (Post 5068840)
I think it may have more to do with the person than their age. Right now I have a quilt being done by an 82 year old long arm quilter!!!

It is the person. Another parishioner made it clear to me that his mother said a REAL quilt was hand quilted not machine quilted like Walmart quilts. We were still on church property, so I let that one ride.

valsma 03-18-2012 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by BuzzinBumble (Post 5066069)
jeemmerling -

I volunteered with the elderly for many years and know that aging effects each of us in such varied ways. People tend to assume that the person was always rude or inconsiderate, or etc. But there is every chance that this lady was not like this her whole life. When confronted with innapropriate behavior in an elderly person, please keep in mind that you just never know what it is that removed their social filters. I have had knowledge of several people's characters beforehand and know they would now be mortified by their current behavior. So, yes, she was unbelievably rude, but polite tolerance should be the response. Remember the saying "There, but for the grace of God, go I."



I have to agree with this statement. One never know what removed one's filter. It could be a stroke or any number of medical conditions. Years ago as a teenager I worked in a nursing home for a few days as a snack person, unitl I knew it wasn't the job for me. There was a lady on one of the floors who cussed a blue streak. Every word out of her mouth was a cuss word. One of the nurses explained to me the lady had, had a stroke apparently had never cussed, but since the stroke cussed like a sailor on a Saturday shore leave. That phrase always stuck with me. LOL
While not an excuse for everyone, it is a possible explination.

jgriinke 03-18-2012 08:11 AM

That reminds me of the story about the woman who, when she made a roast for dinner, before she put the meat in the roasting pan - she cut off the ends of it. When her daughter asked why she did that, she answered, "That's what my Mother did." So, when the daughter was at Gramma's house, she aske Gramma, "Why do you cut the ends off the meat before you put it in the pan?" Gramma answered, "Because it didn't fit in the pan."

So, what I'm saying is, that was how some were taught to do it, doesn't mean we have to do it that way forever!
We are always learning and discovering new things everyday. No reason not to learn and try the new stuff.

GrannieAnnie 03-18-2012 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by jgriinke (Post 5070312)
That reminds me of the story about the woman who, when she made a roast for dinner, before she put the meat in the roasting pan - she cut off the ends of it. When her daughter asked why she did that, she answered, "That's what my Mother did." So, when the daughter was at Gramma's house, she aske Gramma, "Why do you cut the ends off the meat before you put it in the pan?" Gramma answered, "Because it didn't fit in the pan."

So, what I'm saying is, that was how some were taught to do it, doesn't mean we have to do it that way forever!
We are always learning and discovering new things everyday. No reason not to learn and try the new stuff.

I heard that story ages ago about a ham. tee hee.

paulettepoe 03-18-2012 10:22 AM

My mother often told me I dont quilt. Which would hurt me or make me mad, depending on the day. Well, she quilted a few quilts, and liked to do pillows. Today....I am making quilt number 98 and 99 for my mother's twin great granddaughters Due to be born the end of May.
RIP Mother.

auniqueview 03-18-2012 12:28 PM

I wouldn't be too hard on her. I am sure that she, at 80, is probably rather set in her ways. Just be glad that you never had the opportunity to meet and be offended by my mother, the equal opportunity bigot. I think I was the hardest for her to take, lol....I insisted on being Native American, and God Help Us, that would never do, lol. How she managed to not be, when the rest of the family is????? But that was her, and she could offend you within moments of meeting you, and feel pleased with herself for having done it. I suspect this woman was serious, tho....and shocked at what has happened to quilting, as she has always known it. I'm glad you did not give her grief.

Wanabee Quiltin 03-18-2012 02:52 PM

I had a woman ask me how I quilted and I replied 'any way I can'. Then she asked me if I quilted by hand or by machine. I said 'both'. She made a face and said she only quilted by hand. I was ready for her if she said anymore. I was going to ask her if she made her butter by churning it. If she still ironed all her clothes after she hung them on the line to dry. I could go on and on but I'm sure you get the message. I still remember the gal who told me that in her own opinion the only 'good' quilts were those that were hand pieced and hand quilted.

auniqueview 03-18-2012 04:22 PM

I bought a really nice vintage "utility" quilt at a yard sale, brought it home and washed it, since it had been tossed on the ground to keep other items dry. (Really, what are some people thinking? Well, actually, I happen to know that this woman was getting rid of stuff from the first wife, lol....even tho this was made by the grandmother of same). It's a wonderful quilt, and I use it every day. I have a cousin (or two, lol) who have been quilting for ages, and when I told her that there was one square that needed replaced, because the tear in it was too big to repair, she told me that if I used any current fabric, I ruined the "vintage" age of the quilt. I figure that the quilt doesn't care, I am certainly happy with the piece I added, and there hasn't been one quilt police come to the door to arrest me, lol. I wonder if I am going to ruin my nice machine sewn quilt when I repair it by hand?

stchenfool 03-18-2012 05:38 PM

I have to commend you for doing it yourself - good for you - she's just one fish in the pond - the rest of us all admire you!

Sandygirl 03-19-2012 05:36 AM

I can think of other things that would defile a quilt and long arm quilting is not it!

S

quiltapillow 03-19-2012 05:50 AM

Question?? Which would you classify longarm quilting using the hands on method, (close to hand quilting) better than the Automatic Computerized machine quilting(I think is professional) that you can program the computer to do anything? (more like a factory job professional).

GrannieAnnie 03-19-2012 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by auniqueview (Post 5071462)
I bought a really nice vintage "utility" quilt at a yard sale, brought it home and washed it, since it had been tossed on the ground to keep other items dry. (Really, what are some people thinking? Well, actually, I happen to know that this woman was getting rid of stuff from the first wife, lol....even tho this was made by the grandmother of same). It's a wonderful quilt, and I use it every day. I have a cousin (or two, lol) who have been quilting for ages, and when I told her that there was one square that needed replaced, because the tear in it was too big to repair, she told me that if I used any current fabric, I ruined the "vintage" age of the quilt. I figure that the quilt doesn't care, I am certainly happy with the piece I added, and there hasn't been one quilt police come to the door to arrest me, lol. I wonder if I am going to ruin my nice machine sewn quilt when I repair it by hand?


Sounds about like my sis one Christmas. I had received a very nice Lenox teapot. My sis cautioned me about making sure I took good care of all the paperwork "for the future".

Well, this teapot's future is holding tea------------period!

hobo2000 03-19-2012 03:20 PM

I am truly sorry this happened to you but this persons belongs in the category of many people today. They are so wrapped up in themselves and what they think, they hardly have time to be civil. I see it every day in so many ways. I am 73 and walk with a cane wearing ugly, special shoes. I hear so many calluse remarks about my sqeekie rubber shoes and they don't even say it under their breath either. They literally close the door in my face. People in wheelchairs that no one helps, it goes on and on. I think we are fast becoming more un-civilized.

Cosy 03-19-2012 08:16 PM

My grandmother was the epitome of a real perfect lady In spite of a particulary harsh life she never had a bad word for anyone Evwn if some ome was rude she would reply politely> If she was offered something she didn"t like< she would say nicely< "no thank you" If pressed< she would just say "No thank you>I don"t care for that" her mantras were
politenes is ro do and say the kindest thing in the kindest way and Do unto others as you would do unto them
rude peop:e were to be pitied they just don"t know any better>

Cosy 03-19-2012 08:29 PM

sorry< my "puter"s keyboard is just being wierd
anyhow Grandma was a perfect lady UNTIL her later years< when she would say whatever she had on her mind One day she spat out some banana pudding and cursed loudly about how much she hated that s**** aand carried on for twenty minutes or so the next day she wondered why she didn"t get any pudding didn"t everyone know thazt was her favorite
people who knew her for years were saddened by her losses but we still treated her with the love and respect she deserved as the perfect lady she had once been regardless of what she had become>

booklady1952 03-20-2012 05:04 AM

He, he, he....I like that disclaimer..."QUILTING POLICE DISORDER"!

Judi in Ohio 03-20-2012 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by jeemmerling621 (Post 5060957)
I rent a longarm at my LQS and was quilting today (I.e. with headphones and tuned out to the world). A customer comes into the classroom where the longarms are and gets my attention and proclaims that what I am doing "is cheating, and defiling my quilt". I literally stood there speechless. She was in her 80's (I'm guessing) and has probably only ever hand quilted, but her total lack of filter just baffled me.

I had to get that off my chest :) I am so glad we all do our own thing on the Board and respect each other's amazing work!

You know, it isn't the fact that she thought it, it's the fact she said it out loud, right in front of you. What nerve. Feel how you like, but don't judge others - it's None of Her business! Yes? If you had asked, it would have been a good give and take - I can appreciate an opinion. But that is very quilt policey and condemning. You are a better person than me, young or old, manners dictate that you don't demean anothers work. I'm proud of you for holding it in, I'm afraid I wouldn't have and the term old-bat may have escaped. lol
Judi

romanojg 03-20-2012 06:10 AM

Different strokes. I believe what ever gets you doing it is ok. We all have our methods rather it is by hand or by machine and that applies to piecing, appliquing or quilting. As times change and things get more modern and our lives get more hectic we need to find what ever we need to use to be able incorporate quilting or whatever else we enjoy into our lives. Life is too short to miss out on things just because we are working full time jobs and raising a family and then can't find time to quilt because we don't have time to do it the old fashioned way. This person probably was lucky enough to stay at home with her family and that was great too. Some of us don't have the hand skills to do it that way. Just enjoy it your way.

CorgiNole 03-20-2012 10:29 AM

Oh my. I agree, the filter is probably gone. I tune out my 99 year old grandmother on a regular basis as her filter shut off decades ago.

Longarming takes skill and lots of practice. I certainly don't think of it as cheating. It is definitely not as easy as it looks.

Cheers, K


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