Juki TL-98Q


PFaff Triptonic 6270 w dual feed???


both of these are up for sale for $300 a piece and I get first dibbs...Just not sure which one.

TIA

never seen or touched a pfaff..but i know the juki is a work horse..excellent machine. i had one on a frame.

I've never seen either one but I wanted to wish you good luck!

The juki only does a straight stitch, I have it and LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it!!

I am seeing it labeled as a long-arm machine...You do Machine quilting on it?

I have the Pfaff Tiptronic 2030 and have been very happy with it. In 10 years, I have only had to have a little piece on the bobbin fixed. He said it was kind a fluke deal. I don't know anything about the Juki. Sounds like a great deal for either one. If I lived closer, I would take the one you didn't pick!

I have the Pfaff Triptonic 2030 also, and I love it. I have never had a Juki.

I have had both a Juki TL98Q and a Pfaff 2030. I sold the Juki and I still have the Pfaff. I bought a Janome 6600 to go along with the Pfaff.

I have a Bernina as my main machine, but have the Juki TL98-Q on a frame and absolutely love it! It could be used for FMQ or SITD or other type of quilting off the frame also. It only does the straight stitch, but has a larger throat than my Bernina. Almost took it off the frame to do the straight quilting on my BIL's quilt. (I don't have the rulers and such to do straight quilting on the Juki yet.)

Why did you sell it?

Tia - what do you intend to USE this new machine for ? I am guessing the Tiptronic has a variety of zigzag type patterns, and the Juki is straight stitch... so what you would like to DO with the machine would be a deciding factor I guess....

I just never was crazy about it so I sold it to put the money towards the Janome.

It's a nice enough machine but it's straight stitch only.

Well i already have two machines, but I am leaning towards the Juki so I could eventually put it on a frame for machine quilting.....I am seeing that it is considered a long arm and that would be a major plus to have.

It's not a long arm. It's a mid arm at best. You're just not going to have much quilting space at the end of a quilt of any size once you put it on a frame. The frame rails and the rolled up quilt take up a huge amount of the space in the harp area once you get past the middle of a quilt.

With the Juki on a frame, you could do up to a queen quilt, but you would start out with 6 1/2 inches quilting space and by the end maybe 1 1/2 to 2 inches, so a large pattern wouldn't be possible. I bought mine used to learn and see if I would like that type of quilting. So far I have done only practice quilts tops, but I am liking it. Mine has been outfitted with a cruise control (stitch regulator) and a laser light so I can put a pantograph on the frames little shelf to follow the design. Course you have to get the smaller designs (about 4" ) I believe the Juki is considered a "short arm" quilter and have also seen it referred to as a mid-arm.

Here is some info on it from Juki:

http://www.juki.com/JusHome/sections/TL-98Q.html

Thank you for this, but i am not following what your saying (I'm not great at machine lingo LOL. What does the top half of what you said mean???

Sorry, I will try again....hmmm....ok

I wanted to see if I could even begin to do long arm quilting type quilting. That means on a frame, the machine mounted on a carriage or moving platform and then guided by handles. Looks like this: http://www.newjoyquilting.com/gold_standard.html
It is different because you are not sitting in front of the machine, but standing or sitting at the needle end. Then you load the quilt back, top and batting on rollers (see pic) then you have the area between the rollers to quilt in. You work on that area and advance the quilt. The take up roller is in the throat area of the machine so as the quilt wraps around it, it gets fatter and the area in the throat gets filled. The bigger the roll in the throat, the less room you have to move the needle forward on the un-quilted part of the quilt. So by the time you get to the end of the quilt, there is not as much room to maneuver.
There are paper quilting outline patterns on long strips of paper...pantographs (a long linear quilting design). If you look at the pic on the link there is a shelf over the frame. You place the long paper pattern on it, and that gold arm you see in the pic holds a laser light so you can guide the machine while keeping the red laser light on the lines on the pattern. I haven't tried that yet.

The frames can be kinda expensive, but there are many different types out there.

I hope this makes a little more sense. If I can answer any more questions, feel free to PM me.

Not sure that I would compare those two because the Pfaff is a regular sewing machine with a respectable set of stitches. Not sure if it has the built-in walking foot but it does have a regular throat opening. The Juki has a large throat but it only does straight stitch - very fast. So do you need to/want to sew zigzag or blanket stitch? Then there's your answer.

I have two machines that do that already, so i guess my answer is becoming clear LOL

where did you find a juki for 300?? Get it!! Its fantastic!

I have never seen the Pfaff but I love my Juki. It is my baby and finally got a frame to go with it this year.

I just quilted a queen size quilt on my Juki and had more than that at the end of the quilt. Closer to four inches. It worked just fine for me.

Littlehud - That's great! I was told a lot less...thanks! You have made me very happy!

Sorry, I can't help, but I know there are folks here who can. Good luck.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE my Juki. I don't use a whole lot of fancy stitches, and have one little cheapy that does great for machine applique. But the Juki runs like a dream. I have her on the frame, and then off for piecing. And I wish I had 2.

She is the best machine I've ever had, including some with lots of stitches. I also have her up on a GMQ Grace frame and I disagree with the poster who says you will only end up with 2 1/2 inches of space. I have quilted 4 queen size quilts on her. (I don't have space in my room to go out to king on the frame.)

At the end of the quilt, I end up with about 4-5 inches of quilting space. Yes, it's narrow, but I can manage it. It makes me want a long arm, but when I get one, I'm keeping the Juki. In fact, if you don't want it..... That price is unbelievable! Just remember to oil her every 8 hours or so and she'll purr right along.

hazeljane - I am so glad to hear those of you who have experience with the Juki on a frame say there is more that 2 1/2 inches left at the end of a Queen quilt! When I purchased my Juki, the woman I got her from told me the part about 2 1/2 inches...I am so glad to hear she is wrong!!! I have a double sized top to quilt and I was concerned that I would lose many inches at the end. Should have asked you folks first, I wouldn't have been concerned.

I don't know but i think that's a great price!

It does narrow, but I use warm and white or warm and natural low loft and it doesn't narrow that dramatically. Else what would be the point?

I have been able, just, to do designs about 4 1/2 inches all the way down. By the end, it involves getting the rails JUST right, but you get good at that in a hurry.

I was going to post a pic, but it's not wanting to let me.

If you do pantographs, I think it would let you do almost all of them. I don't have the light or pointer, and prefer free motion. It'll be another year or so before I can afford a long arm, so I figure I'll get my kinks out here anyway.

Good luck, Nursie- give it a shot. The first big one, I just put two sheets and batting up and played- it's going to be a play quilt for my daughter's bunnies, so it didn't matter, but it did give me a good sense of the space I had.

As you can tell, I vote Juki. But then, I'm not a fancy stitch girl, so....

Pfaff. You will love the duel feed.

Pfaff. You will love the duel feed.

I have a Pfaff with even feed and the way it sews on quilts can't be beat!

It truly depends on WHAT you need a machine for ... both are very good machines. I have a Pfaff (not that model) and the dual feed is fantastic for piecing, straight line quilting, bindings, etc. My Pfaff is good for quilting smaller quilts & projects but has limited throat space
The Juki is very fast, straight stitch only & has a larger harp than std. It is NOT a longarm though. I have a V. MegaQuilter which is very similar. They are GREAT for machine quilting - but you may not want it as your only machine ?? Those are SUPER prices for both, if they are in good shape. Is it possible you can buy BOTH ?? If so, you'd have the BEST of both worlds !! :)

I need help and just registered. Does anyone know anything about a Free-Westinghouse sewing maching? I bought one at a garage sale for $1.00 this weekend. It was dirty and I cleaned it all up to find that it runs but cant find an on/off switch.
It is a model 903 manufactured by Koyo in Japan. I have read that the company merged with Royal Sewing Machines in the mid to late 20's. Don't know how old this one is but has a plastic case. The machine weight 35 pounds! and is very simple. It is blue and white (light cream) with a gold metal bar across the front with Free-Westinghouse on it. Would like to find more info if I can. Any help would pe appreciated.

I have two other machines that do embroidery AND one that has a ton of stitches, this would mainly be for just quilting...I am leaning towards the Juki :-)

If you have other machines, then I'd def. go with the Juki for quilting ! :)

$300 for the Juki TL98Q, heck, I would buy it and I already have a Juki TL98E. That is a fantastic price for a fantastic machine.
I love the Juki for piecing, purse/tote making, and especially like if for free motion quilting.
I have never had a Pfaff, but I would say, buy Both!!!

Unless you need a stitch regulator then the Juki would be the way to go. More room in the throat area and stitches very fast!

my sewing buddy has a juki and won't use another machine. My mega quilter is very similiar. Straight stich only but it has an automatic bobbin winder!!!Yeh

The Juki isn't a long arm machine. I think they may have mislabeled it in the ad. It's arm is 9".

Short-arms start at 13", mid-arms at 16", with longarms at 20". Perhaps they meant that it could go on a frame kind of like a longarm. And it could. A frame something like a Grace type frame (there are several brands). My friend had this same model of Juki set up on a frame for a few weeks before she upgraded to a mid-arm. She had about 5-6" of complete quilting space with that size arm. The amount of free space you have at the end has to do with the type of batting you use. Most agree between 2-3 average.

Hope this helps some. They are both good machines - just depends on your needs and/or desires. The price is certainly good!

Oh, I forgot...One of the Juki's, and I don't remember which one, has to have special needles. They have to be ordered. JoAnn's, Hancocks, etc. don't carry them and it can't use the more common branded ones. You may want to look that info up, so you're informed. Sorry I can't remember which one it is.

I have pfaff quilt expressions 4.0 I enjoy it