I looked through previous posts about machine quilting and I didn't see the answer I'm curious about...

I am a new quilter, but I'm starting to fly through my quilt tops (it's no wonder so many people have UFOs, lol!!!), but I'm super nervous about machine quilting.
I machine quilted my first quilt, SITD style- and it was TERRIBLE. I never want to see that quilt again- ever.

I really want to learn FMQ but I don't have the set-up for it just quite yet. I'm not confident enough to try it on my machine as is- muscling the first quilt around was hard enough as it was.
I have an old Montgomery Ward work-horse of a machine- I love it! It's not fancy, it's old; but man that machine runs and works like a charm- for me, for now.
My sister and I have considered going in on a quilting frame/frame and machine together. I have seen both on Craigslist in my area. At this point I can't afford a new one.

Okay, knowing all of that:
1. Can I buy a quilting frame without a machine?
2. Can I use it with my machine? Do I need a special machine for it?
3. How does it work- does it have to be set up all the time?
4. Anything else I should know- in general- about quilting frames? Obviously there's many brands/types... but..?? I'm just totally clueless.

Any advice/suggestions would be greatly appreciated! You guys have never let me down in the past... :D

Thanks!

Yes, you can find oodles of frames for sale that will work with the machine you have now. If you get quilting magazines, they all advertize in those. I just got a short arm quilting machine and frame, have it set up, but have not used it yet. I am kind of chicken, don't know why.

I'm sure you can find a frame to use with your machine. However, you will not have much quilting space & the more you roll the quilt the less space you have to quilt in. Once you set the frame up, you will want to leave it up. It is a lot of work to get it set up & you don't want to spend your quilting time setting up your frame each time. Just like FMQ on a home machine takes practice, using a frame will take a lot of practice also.

Get an old mattress pad and practice to your hearts content!!I don't know how you sandwiched your quilt, but if you use the 505 quilt basting spray, it will make the quilting process so much easier. I have a frame and machine I haven't used yet too. There is a learning curve with it so I will have to spend a lot of hours with the setup before I attempt using a real quilt on it.... There is no easy way out :lol: It will take a lot of practice either way!

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I have a Brother 15oo with a proflex frame. So I guess you could classify it as a "mid arm" No more wrestling with the weight of the Quilt.I have also seen this frame set up with a Juki.


You do need some room. I have mine set up at 10ft. Some people disassemble...I am too lazy for that.

I want to upgrade my machine so, I can have more quilt area. Overall I am happy with my purchase. Practice is required fo sure.

I have a BabyLock Quilters Pro machine on a NewJoy frame. It is a short arm setup. I am happy with it, because I don't do really fancy quilting. I just do meandering -- enough to hold the quilt together. I bought it used for $2,500, and I have not regretted it one minute.

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The reason I chose the proflex is because, it can grow with you.

I have practiced... I just don't want to get frustrated and tire my arms out on something so big that isn't even my quilt... lol! It's the muscling that I can't handle- moving the quilt around so much and rolling and unrolling, and balancing over my shoulder and moving around and then balancing the weight of it on the table, and holding in place... and just when I get on a roll and everything is in the right place? ...my bobbin runs out of thread. Or my cat flops over on my foot, over the pedal, and I sew a crazy line (not so different from my SITDing...hahahah!!) and have to take the whole thing out and rip stitches, re-roll, etc etc etc... and then I start swearing and wish I'd never started G D quilting in the first place, and take a walk to relax and then don't want to start again... lol! Anyone with me?!

As far as the sandwiching- I pinned, every 3 inches, just to be sure. I will try the basting spray, just don't know how to keep the spray from going all over the place..??

In my opinion, SITD is the hardest way to machine quilt. I don't do it any more.

You don't have to muscle a big quilt if you cut the batting into three sections. Marti Mitchell (I think) has a book out on how to do this now, although I first saw this method described in one of Debra Wagner's books. This is not the same as quilt-as-you-go; it is indistinguishable from quilts that have been quilted in one piece. A search on this board should show up some threads about it. If I can find an old post I made on the technique, I will link it for you. Basically you layer the quilt as usual, but then wavy-cut the batting alone into three sections and quilt just the middle of the quilt first. This makes for much less bulk under the arm of the machine.

As for spray basting, find a large flat sheet and spread that out on the floor before creating your quilt sandwich. The sheet will catch any overspray, and you can toss it in the laundry afterwards (because spray basting glue is water soluble and will wash out of the sheet). Also, aim your spray from the edge of the quilt towards the center to minimize overspray.

Instead of FMQ, try using a walking foot and doing wavy lines with it. This is much more free-form than trying to make straight lines or SITD.

Edit: OK, I found this old thread where I describe quilting in sections. Here it is:
http://www.quiltingboard.com/t-19096-1.htm

I am with my sister on this one, when it comes to the quilting, I just want to quit and start a new one :)

I have been finding answers to the same questions except my reasoning has mainly to do with being too old to pin on the floor. It seemed to me that people who machine quilts pin either on the floor or clamped to a table. No one has diverge from that. Using spray basting was recommended but I have asthma so I can't be around anything that will shoot particles into the air. I too have been reading as much of the posts as I can come across too. I think the best bet would be some type of a quilting frame. You will have to come up with new ways to keep your cat off the quilt when it is in the frame. It is very expensive and there are so many variety. I am still researching. I think I might have to make a notebook to keep track of what I liked or not liked about which frame.

Try wearing a mask from Home Depot when you spray baste. They are reusable.
Used for painting or sanding to keep from breathing in particles.

The mask will work if the spray is a pump. However when it is an aresal can type the chemical that is used to create pressure for the spray to come out lingers in the air. It makes the air so thick I can't breathe. I was at a LQS when the owner sprayed for me when I was making a bag. I waited outside. When she was done I came in and about died. It felt like trying to breathe through water. I had to avoid that area for a long time and I held my breath a lot until I got my bag finished. Even while I was working with it it was still effecting my breathing. When I come across a project that requires me to use s basting spray, I am sure I can come up with a way to adapt. I know a lot of people swear by them especially on small projects. Besides, what are DH for? But I will keep the mask in mind. If I remember correctly, I think there are masks that will filter out chemical ordors too. They are pricey, but if I share it with my husband's car hobby he might go for it. You never know?

The good quality masks are not that expensive and I'm pretty sure they're available from Amazon.

Another thing people can do is tape a sheet to a garage wall, pin the quilt sandwich to the sheet, and spray with the garage door open. This can also be done outside. If a closed garage door is not suitable for a backdrop, one can purchase a couple of panels of insulation foam (4'x8'), duct tape them together, prop them against a garage door or the side of the house, and pin to them. Several people on the forum have done these things and even posted pictures. Sure beats getting down on the floor!

Prism99, your suggestion sounds very feasible for me. I will remember to do that as soon as my DH clears out our garage and put them into his shop.

I have a Grace frame and a Juki machine. Check out the combo deals on them at Sewvacdirect.com. The prices are about the best you can find on new. I love mine. I always said I didn't have enough room for one but mine is set up in my bedroom. It takes up half the room but all I need is a bed and dresser. Now that other space is taken up with something I love to use.

I like the explanation of the one-third batting type of quilting. iwill have to try that. I have a few larger quilts that I have been putting off wrestling under the machine.