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SuziC 08-05-2010 04:18 PM

From looking at the many gorgeous quilts pictured, i wondered about the actual quilting techniques. I know there are hand quilters and machine quilters but i wanted to ask if there are many who still machine quilt with just an average sewing machine? I have seen the long arm quilt machines and will probably never own one nor will i get the expensive computerized ones that quilt for you. I like working one on one with my plain sewing machine to creat the stitching. What are your thoughts on this?

katier825 08-05-2010 04:28 PM

It can be done. It's easier if your machine has a larger throat, but I did once see a king size that was being quilted on a regular machine. I think it's hard on the shoulders. Everyone finds their own system that works. If you start in the center and work out to the corners, you are dealing with a smaller area. I scrunch it up, rather than roll. I find it easier to control. I now have a Viking Sapphire, with a 9" throat. I've done a 60x80 without much problem. Eventually I'll get around to my queen sized quilt. I don't expect to have a problem. I'll just take my time.

Sadiemae 08-05-2010 04:46 PM

I know several quilters in my area who use domestic machines and they do beautiful work. It is just a little different moving the quilt instead of the machine as longarm machines and some midarm machines do.

Ginaky 08-05-2010 04:59 PM

Check this website. She does all of her quilting on a Bernina and if I remember right, she told me it was an older one. I've seen her quilts up close and personal and they are absolutely beautiful. She teaches at several LQS in the area.
http://www.julieylambert.com/index.html
She really shows what can be done on a regular machine.

franie 08-05-2010 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Ginaky
Check this website. She does all of her quilting on a Bernina and if I remember right, she told me it was an older one. I've seen her quilts up close and personal and they are absolutely beautiful. She teaches at several LQS in the area.
http://www.julieylambert.com/index.html
She really shows what can be done on a regular machine.

Awesome work. Not computerized either!

tortoisethreads 08-05-2010 05:12 PM

I have 2 machines I quilt on, a Husqvarna Viking, and a Singer Touch-Tronic. Both have small throat space, but I have done queen size on them!!!

Friendly Quilter 08-05-2010 05:18 PM

Althought I have a Long Arm I still love quilting on my regular machine. I love making the small flowers the stippling. I just enjoy it. I am think of making a quilt and sm machine quilt each block as I go. I will keep the backing and batting larger than the front the sew them togeather later. I am still in the planning stage, but think it will be fun.

nellie 08-05-2010 05:21 PM

i say whatever you want to do you can ,just takes time and practice

sidmona 08-05-2010 05:45 PM

I use my Juki domestic machine to quilt and have made up to a king without using a frame. It just takes patience and a lot of practice. I scrunch the quilt into the throat, I don't roll it and it seems to work fine for me. I find the quilting very relaxing.

grammyp 08-05-2010 05:47 PM

I don't have a computerized machine, I like things simple. DH got me a mid-arm and frame for Christmas last year, but for simple straight line quilting I prefer my tabletop Janome.

0tis 08-05-2010 07:32 PM

I have only done small baby quilts and lap quilts - its a struggle but can be done. My neighbor has been quilting for a long time and she turns out some beautiful work using her sewing machine...

Prism99 08-05-2010 07:59 PM

It's possible to do heirloom machine quilting on a regular domestic machine. Harriet Hargrave, Diane Gaudynski, Maureen Noble, and Sharon Schamberg and many other quilters have won prestigious awards without a longarm.

If the bulk gets too much to handle, there are ways to do a quilt in sections so that the sectioning does not show. Marti Michell has a book on this now, but I first saw the method explained in detail in a book by another quilter (whose name escapes me at the moment; she hasn't published in awhile) who won best of show at Paducah several years in a row.

For myself, I found it much easier on my body to machine quilt on my domestic machine standing up. (Much easier on the shoulders!) Building a large work surface that is flush with the bed of the sewing machine helps a lot too.

sewingladydi 08-05-2010 08:52 PM

I hand quilt and also use a 30 yr old Kenmore and a 15 yr old Viking for machine quilting. The big ones are more difficult to manage, but I mostly make smaller (like QFK)quilts

roselady 08-05-2010 09:25 PM

You have brought up a subject that I have been thinking about alot lately. I have hand quilted everything I've done until ayear ago when my son got married and I knew I wouldn't be able to get a hand quilted quilt made in time, I am very slow. I designed a rather intricate quilt, with both hand applique and machine pieced. It was my first time to send a quilt out to be quilted. I was very disappointed in the quilting- not the long arm quilter, but in what I asked her to do. I knew that she was fairly new at quilting, but I knew I really couldn't afford what others cost. I have since had her do two more quilts which I have been much more pleased with, I knew a little more, so I could ask more for what I wanted. But, I still am not really happy with the quilting. I can't afford to pay for custom quilting of my quilts, and hand quilting takes me so long, unless it is very basic. I just feel so sad, I guess, that I have this pretty great quilt (forgive me for tooting my own horn) and I feel like the quilting of them has dropped them down a level. I have a 24 year old Bernina and only recently discovered that it has the capability of quilting, the feed dogs drop, and I do have a darning foot. I made a practise "quilt" and gave it a try....I couldn't even follow a line!!! Wow, was that a shock. Anyway I feel like I have soooo far to go before I could even consider machine quilting anything small, and something large seems impossible right now. My guild has a show coming next June and when I think about putting these recent quilts in it, I'm kind of embarrassed about the quilting.

katier825 08-06-2010 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by roselady
You have brought up a subject that I have been thinking about alot lately. I have hand quilted everything I've done until ayear ago when my son got married and I knew I wouldn't be able to get a hand quilted quilt made in time, I am very slow. I designed a rather intricate quilt, with both hand applique and machine pieced. It was my first time to send a quilt out to be quilted. I was very disappointed in the quilting- not the long arm quilter, but in what I asked her to do. I knew that she was fairly new at quilting, but I knew I really couldn't afford what others cost. I have since had her do two more quilts which I have been much more pleased with, I knew a little more, so I could ask more for what I wanted. But, I still am not really happy with the quilting. I can't afford to pay for custom quilting of my quilts, and hand quilting takes me so long, unless it is very basic. I just feel so sad, I guess, that I have this pretty great quilt (forgive me for tooting my own horn) and I feel like the quilting of them has dropped them down a level. I have a 24 year old Bernina and only recently discovered that it has the capability of quilting, the feed dogs drop, and I do have a darning foot. I made a practise "quilt" and gave it a try....I couldn't even follow a line!!! Wow, was that a shock. Anyway I feel like I have soooo far to go before I could even consider machine quilting anything small, and something large seems impossible right now. My guild has a show coming next June and when I think about putting these recent quilts in it, I'm kind of embarrassed about the quilting.

Keep at it, it will improve! When I first started, mine was horrible. All I could do was laugh at it. But after awhile, you look at your practice sandwiches and notice that the stitching is more consistent, shapes are much more like what they should be and the "eyelashes" are gone from the back. I can now comfortably flip it over and sew around shapes on the back without worrying how the front will look. They say if you practice 10 minutes a day, your skill will improve immensely. I can't do that because I don't have a dedicated sewing room. But, I still practice before every quilt. You'll get there! :)

quilterella 08-06-2010 02:55 AM

My avatar quilt is a generous king size done on my Janome that has a 9 in throat. Yes it is hard to do, you have to have lots of patience and I also scrunch it up as opposed to rolling it. Between shoulder surgery and MS, some days I don't have much strength in my arms, but, it is very doable on our domestic machines. I haven't sent one out to the Longarm lady in probably 4-5 years. There's something about starting and finishing it myself.

CompulsiveQuilter 08-06-2010 04:01 AM

I'm determined to FMQ my first -on my domestic machine. I have an awesome, large template and the Ultimate Pounce (disappears with a steam iron). The template is a glorified meander. ------ but some say start in the middle and some say otherwise. What's the best way? And is an all-over quilting pattern easier/better than stopping and doing something different on the borders? 4" border - what pattern would you use there?

lots2do 08-06-2010 04:37 AM

Barbara Barber from the U.K. spoke at one of our guild meetings. She told us she starts her quilting at a corner. She has also been a quilt judge for some time and says that one always looks at the center of a quilt first so mistakes will 'stick' out more. Makes sense to me. Another thing to consider.

Prism99 08-06-2010 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by CompulsiveQuilter
I'm determined to FMQ my first -on my domestic machine. I have an awesome, large template and the Ultimate Pounce (disappears with a steam iron). The template is a glorified meander. ------ but some say start in the middle and some say otherwise. What's the best way? And is an all-over quilting pattern easier/better than stopping and doing something different on the borders? 4" border - what pattern would you use there?

When hand quilting in a hoop, one always starts in the middle so any excess fabric moves to the sides instead of getting "trapped" in the middle.

When machine quilting, it's extra work to bury threads if you start and stop in the middle. It's enough if you start at one edge and work towards another edge. That way, if you run out of bobbin thread, you have only one thread per bobbin to bury. Starting in a corner sounds good. You could also start at the middle of an edge and work towards the other edge. The biggest thing to avoid is quilting the border first; you could have extra material trapped in the center that will not "quilt out".

Prism99 08-06-2010 07:06 AM

Roselady, keep in mind you can use a walking foot to quilt; free-motion isn't your only option. With a walking foot (and the feed dogs up) it's possible to do straight lines, cross-hatching, and gentle curves. If appliques are larger so they don't have very tight curves, you can even use a walking foot to echo quilt. (You just have to stop and lift the presser foot frequently to adjusts the angle of the quilt feed.) It takes time to master free-motion quilting; meanwhile, quilting with a walking foot is relatively easy.

lots2do 08-06-2010 07:33 AM

Thank you, Prism, for your advice.

SuziC 08-06-2010 10:03 AM

I never thought to start in the corner....all the books say start in the center. I will try that on my next one.

roselady 08-06-2010 10:10 AM

You are all so encouraging, always, thank you so much. I really need to decide "I can do this", because I know I won't be happy until my quilts are 100% done by me.

Tweety2911 08-07-2010 04:10 AM

I only have my sewing machine and do all my quilting on it. Twin size quilt is all I have attempted so far. Ditto to Katier825. My first attempts were horrible. I saved them and do pull them out once in awhile to see how bad I was. Practicing on muslin sandwiches shows your progress very clearly. Draw a design and practice FMQ. Tracing paper on a roll is my best friend. Good Luck, keep at it. Make it fun.

bigsister63 08-07-2010 04:30 AM

The Amish say that nothing is perfect but God so you quilt does not have to be perfect. Try to do the best job that you can since who ever you make the quilt for will appreciate your effort and not look for perfect. "practice makes progress" (not perfection). If you are using free motion practice using pencil and paper to practice so that you brain will remember the motions. Also in my area you can rent the use of a long arm for $10-18 per hour after taking a learning class that is about $40. Sounds like a deal to me and I will try it this winter when I have to stay in (Brrrrrr),

Midwestmary 08-07-2010 04:56 AM

At a recent FMQ class at my LQS, we machine quilted the middle section of our quilt minus the borders. The borders were then attached and quilted. I thought this was a great method to reduce bulk when quilting a large quilt.

dgmoby 08-07-2010 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by Prism99

Originally Posted by CompulsiveQuilter
I'm determined to FMQ my first -on my domestic machine. I have an awesome, large template and the Ultimate Pounce (disappears with a steam iron). The template is a glorified meander. ------ but some say start in the middle and some say otherwise. What's the best way? And is an all-over quilting pattern easier/better than stopping and doing something different on the borders? 4" border - what pattern would you use there?

When hand quilting in a hoop, one always starts in the middle so any excess fabric moves to the sides instead of getting "trapped" in the middle.

When machine quilting, it's extra work to bury threads if you start and stop in the middle. It's enough if you start at one edge and work toward another edge. That way, if you run out of bobbin thread, you have only one thread per bobbin to bury. Starting in a corner sounds good. You could also start at the middle of an edge and work toward the other edge. The biggest thing to avoid is quilting the border first; you could have extra material trapped in the center that will not "quilt out".

The truth is that if you have prepared your sandwich well, by heavily stabilizing it with thread, pins or whatever you choose - you can quilt it beginning anywhere because it won't move/shift. However - if you don't, then you are at risk for everything from pleats to running out of backing if you've pushed your top too far over.

I did quilt with my Singer, until I got a longarm. All quilting, regardless of the machine used, needs to be stabilized in some manner. There are just so many things this process helps to avoid (waving borders, pleats, D-Cups, tucks, shifting blocks, wonkiness, etc.). So, stabilize it well, and you can begin and end anywhere since you only take out the area you are immediately quilting in.

(With the longarm, your frame stabilizes for the majority of your quilt, but you still may need pins, etc. depending upon how flat the quilt is and what your quilting plan is.)

Just my thoughts - hope it helps :)

quilt crazee 08-07-2010 05:42 AM

go out and buy a CHEATER'S PANEL batt& back it. PRACTICE on this. usually, they're a baby/ snuggle size. You will not have wasted a quilt top you spent many hrs on! The end pc could be donated to cancer patients, homeless shelter, womens shelter, ect.. Just a win, win idea. good luck!

Janette 08-07-2010 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by SuziC
From looking at the many gorgeous quilts pictured, i wondered about the actual quilting techniques. I know there are hand quilters and machine quilters but i wanted to ask if there are many who still machine quilt with just an average sewing machine? I have seen the long arm quilt machines and will probably never own one nor will i get the expensive computerized ones that quilt for you. I like working one on one with my plain sewing machine to creat the stitching. What are your thoughts on this?

Look into quilting as you go where you just do a block, quilt it, then join in to another block. I've done a queen-size that way and it was way easier than trying to quilt an entire quilt at one time. Quilt as you go means that you generally don't have anything to the right, all your quilt stays to the left.

catrancher 08-07-2010 08:46 AM

I'm just learning to do that. It works best if your quilt is not too large . . . around lap sized is a good size (or smaller). I like using the Supreme Slider which just sticks down to your sewing machine bed (with friction, not adhesive). It's a teflon produce and it reduces the drag. And find some gloves you like. People like Machingers. I've ordered a pair, but they haven't come yet. I HATED my Fons & Porter gloves. My clipped threads clung to them like scotch tape.

Twilliebee 08-07-2010 09:41 AM

Check out this thread running simultaneously. Lot's of interesting machine quilting info and some great pictures of a work in progress. http://www.quiltingboard.com/t-58147-3.htm#1409066

marla 08-07-2010 10:30 AM

Did you get an accurrate measurement after quilting the inside, then doing the borders?This does sound interesting.
marla

Originally Posted by Midwestmary
At a recent FMQ class at my LQS, we machine quilted the middle section of our quilt minus the borders. The borders were then attached and quilted. I thought this was a great method to reduce bulk when quilting a large quilt.


Marge L. 08-07-2010 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by Sadiemae
I know several quilters in my area who use domestic machines and they do beautiful work. It is just a little different moving the quilt instead of the machine as longarm machines and some midarm machines do.


I have used my domestic machine to quilt 4-5 king sized quilts and many queen size. It takes a while, but it can be done. I have a Viking 630 and love it.

Cherokeequilter 08-07-2010 11:26 AM

This is to roselady who was concerned about doing her own quilting after sending many quilts out. DON'T give up trying yourself. I have been sewing, hand quilting, designing and doing upholstery work all my life and guess what, my first attempts at machine quilting were a really big surprise to me. Terrible!!!! Now nearly six years later I have made about 40 quilts and love my BabyLock Quilter's Professional so much that I turned down an offer by my husband to purchase a longarm. I have learned that the more you practice the better you get and every time I start a new project I do some practice sessions just to get in the groove again. I am into thread painting and designing a new wall hanging using a photo I took in the yard recently. I have seen many friends learn to machine quilt in our guild and it is exciting. I practice on the quilts that will be going to our area Womens' shelter as the children don't seem to care how perfect my pattern come out. It helps us both and is good therapy. JC

nana2 08-07-2010 02:23 PM

Our grandmothers, great grandmothers and generations of quilters before these had what we would consider primitive tools and methods to use for quilting. Yet there have been some very beautiful quilts from these times. We are now a generation that needs instant results -- Quilt In A Day!!! I fall into this catagory also. The site that someone references a little later in this post stated that one of the quilts which was quilted on a regular machine was nine months in the making. The quilting is the "heart" of the quilt. Would I have the patience to work for nine months on one project???? It would be difficult, but then I remember how much time many generations before us had to spend in creating their quilts and a lot of those quilts were needed for warmth in the winter. I would love having a long arm machine, but have never been able to justify spending that kind of money, especially in today's economy. Soooooooo as for myself, I will try to remember the patience of my ancestors and be glad that I have an electric sewing machine that I can use in a house with Central heat and air, have good lights, tools, a very comfortable chair and do not have to make quilts to keep the family safe and warm.

brightstar_202 08-07-2010 04:26 PM

My name is Janet and I am from Ohio. Have any of you girls by chance quilted block by block? That you can do on the machine free arm or by quilting foot. I have tried both and since I am fairly new they both do okay. my quilts are not the top knotch but I have made 20 in the last 2 years for my grand kids and they did not see the mistakes even though I did.

barbrdunn 08-07-2010 05:04 PM

I have a Brother 1500 with the wide throat, but have yet to find a stitch in the ditch foot that works weel with it. So I only use it to free motion, and use my Pfaff for everything else.

treeseek quilter 08-07-2010 06:04 PM

SuziC. I need to ask if you also do genealogy? The Olinger family line?

llong0233 08-07-2010 06:44 PM

I'm relatively new to quilting. I started with a class through our local community extension services. We made an 8 pointed star block. I did it all by hand and I was hooked. I have since made three small quilts but did the piecing and quilting on my sewing machine. I have a Brother CS6000i. It's just like my mechanical Brother, same number of stitch options, but digital. I do all my quilting on the regular sewing machine and will continue to do so. I like to do my own thing and it can be very expensive to send a quilt out to be quilted on a long-arm. Besides, I'm not sure computerized long-arm quilting is really "quilting". I went to a local quilt show a few weeks ago and saw some beautiful quilts. Some were all hand quilted, others all done long-arm. I don't think they should be shown and judged together. Maybe it's just me but computerized quilting just doesn't seem like it should be compared to or judged with hand quilting. This is probably more information than you wanted in an answer to your question, but there it is. I can't be too much of a "quilt snob" because I do my quilting on my machine, but at least I'm doing it, not a computer.

Annz 08-07-2010 06:56 PM

I have one that I quilted mostly by hand and all the others are with my Pfaff 2134.


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