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kristakz 04-14-2012 02:16 PM

Making Quilting Stencils / Marking your quilt
 
Does anyone make their own quilting stencils? I hate the idea of buying them - my blocks are seldom standard sizes, and often I'd need to buy a stencil in several sizes in order to do my quilt. So I'm trying to figure out how to mark my own designs on the quilt top. I tried buying some template plastic and cutting that to make a stencil, but it was (I guess) too thick, because cutting an intricate curve was a complete disaster. So, do you have any suggestions for making my own stencils?

I've also tried sewing over paper templates - and I hate having to pull the paper out later.

I'm also having a heck of a time finding something to mark with. I bought a pounce pad today, and that's not too bad, but I'm finding it doesn't always leave a legible line. none of the pencils I've tried are working at all. not sure if it's my fabric colour, or something wrong with the pencils, but unless I press REALLY hard, I get nothing. And they all say to mark lightly.

Any and all suggestions appreciated. I'm getting desperate today.

virtualbernie 04-14-2012 02:22 PM

Since you already have the pounce pad, why not trace your design on template plastic and punch small holes in it with an awl. You can make the holes as large as you need so you can see your pounce marks.

ckcowl 04-14-2012 02:24 PM

template plastic is a bit different than stencil plastic- stencil plastic is often cut with a stencil knife- which heats up- melt-cuts the plastic- template plastic is often made to not melt so you can touch your applique templates with an iron- so that may be part of the problem you had-
there is also a little swivel knife (available at Nancy's notions) that works great for getting into those tight little places it is one of those tools i don't know how i lived without- i use it so much! and very inexpensive. (i think on the pages with rotory cutters & tools in her catalog) i have the swivel knife and the mini rotory cutter- both are used alot when i am cutting out appliques.
as for marking quilts i generally use chalk- you can brush or wash it off - it shows up well- is available in lots of colors- works for me.

Pat625 04-14-2012 02:25 PM

Great idea Bernie..I would love to make my own templates too. I just started using stencils with my hand quilting., I just finished a quilt using a Dritz water soluble pencil to mark with. I worked great and cleaned right up with a damp rag. It was white on a dark color. I will be going back to see if they make a dark pencil to use on light fabrics to try next.

Krisb 04-14-2012 02:33 PM

Try using Glad wrap. Really. Sounds crazy, but it works. Try looking at this

http://home.ptd.net/~shoofly/PNS/directions.htm

Tartan 04-14-2012 02:34 PM

I've used many different methods for marking for machine quilting. I've used masking/painting tape for straight lines. I lightly mark on dark fabric with a Fons&Porter pump chalk pencil. I have used Glad press &seal to quilt through for occasional designs but it like paper, needs to be removed. I am slowly building my FMQ design skills. When I do that, I use the block pattern to determine a design to quilt within it. As for stencils, I buy a basic shape stencil from my LQS and use all of it or parts of it to mark the top. If you want an all over design, you can put a large print on the quilt back and quilt upside done following the fabric pattern. Some people use tissue paper and using an unthreaded needle, they sew over a drawn design and pounce through the needle marks to mark the quilt. You will need to try different methods to see what works for you. Good luck!

momto5 04-14-2012 04:38 PM

If you can find some old x-ray film, it works wonders as stencil material....call your doc's office or maybe the local hospital radiology department and you might luck out.

hopetoquilt 04-14-2012 05:04 PM

http://quiltingstencils.com/makeyourown.aspx Here is a link to the stencil company site on the page that contains the materials to make your own stencils. This is also a great place to buy stencils if you need something premade. They have one of the biggest selections. Best of both worlds. Supplies to make your own and large selection of premade. Hope this helps.

omaluvs2quilt 04-14-2012 05:36 PM

I also use many sizes, so EQ7 comes in handy...just find a design, add it to the quilt, and print. I have used a light box to draw on the actual quilt with either the blue water removable pens or sewline pens. It's a little time consuming, but it is so much nicer than sewing over paper. I use golden threads paper often, pretty easy to tear without damaging stitches, but it is time consuming to take out all the paper (I use an archival pen to trace onto the paper-have found that sharpies sometimes transfer to the fabric). My next thing to try is like "Tartan" said, sew without a needle thru printer paper and use the iron-off pounce with one of those sponge type paint brushes. Also thinking about trying some free-hand, but it does make me nervous! I actually used the Glad press-n-seal for a while, but it started gumming up my needles and skipping stitches, so I gave that one up.

SittingPretty 04-14-2012 05:46 PM

I've heard of using tulle fabric in an embroidery hoop. You mark the design on the tulle with a marker. Then you trace the design through the tulle onto your fabric. You could use a permanent marker on the tulle (NOT ON YOUR QUILT!), if you want to save it, but I guess you could use a washout marker, if you want to use the tulle over again with a different design. As for marking your quilt, some people use the Crayola washable markers. I, too, have found that I have to press harder with the other pencils than the "light touch" in the directions. Otherwise, I like marking with chalk, but it does seem to brush off some.

katier825 04-15-2012 03:06 AM

I like using Crayola Washable Markers on Sulky Solvy to mark patterns. Once you sew it, you tear off the larger pieces and the rest washes away. Since I always wash my quilts when they are done, it works well for me. What I do is to draw or trace my pattern onto paper, put the Sulky Solvy over it and trace. Then I use safety pins to pin the Sukly Solvy to the quilt.

It's similar to the Glad Wrap, but you don't have to pick the little bits out between the stitches because it all washes away.

Also, Golden Threads paper works well, but you do have to tear that away. If I am doing a quilt with many blocks of the same quilting pattern, it's easier. I stack several pieces together and sew thru the design with no thread to make pinholes. Then follow that design on each block.

As far as these 2 methods go, they are very similar timewise...the Sulky Solvy is more prep work, the Golden Threads is more at the end to tear off the paper. I use both depending on my mood at the time. The best thing about either method is that you are not marking directly on the quilt.

Holice 04-15-2012 04:00 AM

There are a number of ways to make your own stencils. I will try and mention a few here but need to do a more detailed explanation. I wrote an article about 5 years ago for the Fons and Porter magazine. I will try and find it and make it available. I want to find my original and not the edited one that appeared in the magazine. And yes, I can send the article without copyright problems as I wrote the article.

To make a really successful stencil, you need a flexible plastic. Most plastic you find in shops are too hard and still to cut the slots for a stencil. Even with a craft knife it is difficult. The best and easiest is to use a flexible plastic such as DBK which is blue plastic. It is sold through shops and on line from The Stencil Co. It cuts easily with the craft knife - such as Xacto or the Olfa knifs. The best knife if you can find them are the double blade Xacto or Olfa. however both have been discontinued but might be available in some craft departments/stores. They cut a double line. The double blace that is still available, that I am aware of is one that the two blades are on the end of a circle type attachment. They are a bit more expensive than the two mentioned above as the blades are not changable.
However, a stencil can be cut with a one blade craft knife but will have to cut the two lines to make the groove.
One quilt teacher does show how to use the harder plastic and use a groove cutter used in woodwork. I don't know if a demo is on line but will search for it. She says the Amish use the method.
Several years ago a student brought in a stencil she had cut out of freezer paper using a one blade knife but again had to be careful in cutting the groove. It made a successful stencil.
An old method is to draw your design on a plastic and then put a large needle in your machine withut thread and stitch over the lines to make small dots. Chalk was then rubbed over leaving the design on the fabric and then filled in with a pencil or other marking piece.
There is a stencil made on a stiff like silk, almost like a silk screen for printing and you use the pounce powder to rub over and leaves a marking on the fabric.
When you are considering the shape or design, look at it and see if you can use a template (shape without the grooves. Many simple designs can be traced just using shapes. If you want specific designs - sports, animals et, then look in the craft store for a painting stencils. Many have the open shapes that can be traced around for your design.
But remember that the stiff plastic used for templates are not easy to cut the grooves.

As to makers. Many many on the market. My recommendation are: Multi-Pastel Chalk pencils which can be found in quilt shops or craft stores. They are made by General Pencil Co. I only use white and light gray and sometime the dark gray. I avoid colored pencils because even tho they will say washable, they are not always so. Some use the colored chalk successfully. I can't. There is another pencil - also made by General Pencil Co which is a black washable graphite that works. Looks dangerous because the lead is larger but does erase and wash out.
One that I have had success with is the ceramic mechanical pencil = under names of Fons and Porter, Collins, Sewline Thin white lead that is strong and marks well and does erase. I recommend to always rub or erase as much of the marks off (with pencil or chalk) to remove as much of the surface marking as possible before washing. I use the lint brush you find in pet stores or other stores. It is a flexible plastic (usually oval in shape and black) Gently brush the marks. This is working good for me when I mark with white on black.
I like to keep the pencil sharp and will mark about 12" and then hit the tip with the pencil sharpener.
Chalk pencils will break so you need to be careful when sharpening. I use the battery sharpener and when sharpening will twist the pencil while sharpening as that appears to make the sharpening more even and more gentler.
If you have a light colored fabric that you are marking then sometimes it is possible to trace the design using a light box. For large pieces I have a 24"x48" piece of plexiglass. I open the dining room table and put the plastic over the opening with light under the table.
These are some thoughts about stencils and marking.
There are times when you need to make your own stencil type product to mark. However, consider your time vs the cost of the stencil. Sometime the cost will be worth it to buy the stencil if it is appropriate and fits.
It is not easy to find a large selection of stencils at shops as they take up a lot of space. Search on line for places that mail order. The Stencil Co and Quilting Creations International are two mail order companies.
You will also occasionally find good selections at the larger shows. There was a booth here in New England this past weekend at the Original Sewing and Quilting Expo that had a good selection. If you are going to Paducah then there should be two or more with stencils. I know there will be one booth downtown and another at The Rotary Club venue.

willowwind 04-15-2012 04:15 AM

As far as marking. have you tried the friction pens? They disappear when ironed, with heat. They come in dark colors & bright colors. I find them very reliable & easy to get rid of markings afterwards, just press with an iron.


Cathy S/Willowwind

flhomeschoolmom 04-15-2012 06:21 AM

I make my own templates on a regular basis. For templates that I don't have to use a lot, I use cardboard or paperboard (cereal boxes). But when I want one sturdier, I use butter tub lids. It's inexpensive, recycles, and I can easily make more without having to run out to the store.

As for marking on the fabric, I purchased some fabric marking pencils at Wal-Mart. They do wash out but it's not advised to iron over the marks before washing. I've also used chalk, #2 pencils, and Crayola fine tipped washable markers. The washable markers do work well, but I always use the lightest color possible and wash my quilt top in cold water and detergeant before ever ironing my seams.

Holice 04-15-2012 07:18 AM

There has been some negative reporting on the Fix-On pens. While the lines do disappear and return if cold, the cold reference is usually mentioned when putting the quilt in the freezer. Who puts their quilt in the freezer...However, they might (do) return when left in a cold room over winter. Also the one report from a highly respected quilter said that even with washing, the lines will return but very dim. The quilter posted on one of the other sites but believe she might also have a web page. Her test was very thorough.

Iamquilter 04-15-2012 10:00 AM

making tensils and markin your quilts
 

Originally Posted by kristakz (Post 5141018)
Does anyone make their own quilting stencils? I hate the idea of buying them - my blocks are seldom standard sizes, and often I'd need to buy a stencil in several sizes in order to do my quilt. So I'm trying to figure out how to mark my own designs on the quilt top. I tried buying some template plastic and cutting that to make a stencil, but it was (I guess) too thick, because cutting an intricate curve was a complete disaster. So, do you have any suggestions for making my own stencils?

I've also tried sewing over paper templates - and I hate having to pull the paper out later.

I'm also having a heck of a time finding something to mark with. I bought a pounce pad today, and that's not too bad, but I'm finding it doesn't always leave a legible line. none of the pencils I've tried are working at all. not sure if it's my fabric colour, or something wrong with the pencils, but unless I press REALLY hard, I get nothing. And they all say to mark lightly.

Any and all suggestions appreciated. I'm getting desperate today.

I got all my stencil material from the hospital and use the burning pencil to cut them, and use the Fons and Porter silver and white to mark all my quilting designs. The Fons and Porter marking pens will erase very easy, you can just rub over the marks after they are quilted or use the eraser at the end of the marking pen. I wouldn't be without them any more.

jitkaau 04-16-2012 02:36 AM

I just draw straightly onto the block with a water soluble pen. It doesn't matter if I take a couple of goes if something gets a bit wonky as it will wash out anyway. Saves time and paper and $$$.

Helena 04-16-2012 02:49 AM

Stencil markings
 
I have bought stencils and use a chalk pounce which really speeds up the marking process. However, I have had problems with the blue chalk on a white fabric. What marking chalk do you use for light color fabrics?

janbland 04-16-2012 05:01 AM

See if you can buy the book... Quilting Dot to Dot. She has great instruction on tracing you designs on paper; particularly resizing the designs to fit your block. You can then stitch through the paper without thread to create holes and use your pounce pad to mark your quilt. If you trace on one, you can stitch through several layers of paper to create multiple "stencils." When using the pounce pad, you "pounce" to get the chalk on the sponge, but rub it across your stencil to get your marks on your quilt. HTH

judykay 04-16-2012 06:12 AM

Thanks for the idea, I am going to try this.

Tudey 04-16-2012 06:16 AM

For marking quilts, I really like the Pilot Frixion pens, I used to use air erasable pens, but the designs disappeared too quickly for my liking. The Frixion pens erase very cleanly with a steam iron and they don't fade out while I am quilting.

sniktasemaj 04-16-2012 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by Krisb (Post 5141050)
Try using Glad wrap. Really. Sounds crazy, but it works. Try looking at this

http://home.ptd.net/~shoofly/PNS/directions.htm

I can't wait to try this

BuzzinBumble 04-16-2012 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Krisb (Post 5141050)
Try using Glad wrap. Really. Sounds crazy, but it works. Try looking at this

http://home.ptd.net/~shoofly/PNS/directions.htm

Kris, that is simply amazing! Going to have to try a lot of the great ideas here, this is something to get excited about!

rainagade 04-16-2012 08:35 AM

PRESS and SEAL by Glad is wonderful.
I use it for so many things other than in the kitchen.

I also crazy quilt, so when i see something i lay the press and seal over the design and draw!
I can see without a light or taping it to a window!

this Christmas Glad came out with Christmas prints, you should of seen the excitement!

denveremerson 04-16-2012 10:21 AM

Thank you Holice for your information. I struggle with transfering designs to my fabrics. I find all the many marking pens I have purchased are not satisfactory. And the pounce was useless. It's frustrating to buy another type of marker, only to have it not work adequately.

Sewfine 04-16-2012 10:43 AM

Clotilde has one call Ultimate Iron off Pounce.

quilt addict 04-16-2012 11:06 AM

Thank you for asking the question. Some great information here. I think next time I will try the press and seal.

irishrose 04-16-2012 11:19 AM

Thank you for asking this. I'm learning a lot.

SUZAG 04-16-2012 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Krisb (Post 5141050)
Try using Glad wrap. Really. Sounds crazy, but it works. Try looking at this

http://home.ptd.net/~shoofly/PNS/directions.htm

Just make sure you use a washable or disappearing marker. I grabbed a permanent marker and marked it out, stitched it and it left a mark on the fabric when I peeled off the wrap...now an applique is going in that spot...LOL

Holice 04-16-2012 11:58 AM

do not trust the blue pounce many have reported it does not come out even in washing.
Also avoid anything chalk like with color in it. Same reason as above.

patdesign 04-16-2012 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by kristakz (Post 5141018)
Does anyone make their own quilting stencils? I hate the idea of buying them - my blocks are seldom standard sizes, and often I'd need to buy a stencil in several sizes in order to do my quilt. So I'm trying to figure out how to mark my own designs on the quilt top. I tried buying some template plastic and cutting that to make a stencil, but it was (I guess) too thick, because cutting an intricate curve was a complete disaster. So, do you have any suggestions for making my own stencils?

I've also tried sewing over paper templates - and I hate having to pull the paper out later.

I'm also having a heck of a time finding something to mark with. I bought a pounce pad today, and that's not too bad, but I'm finding it doesn't always leave a legible line. none of the pencils I've tried are working at all. not sure if it's my fabric colour, or something wrong with the pencils, but unless I press REALLY hard, I get nothing. And they all say to mark lightly.

Any and all suggestions appreciated. I'm getting desperate today.

I use the disappearing ink pen (red violet in color on one end and blue on the other) Depending on how warm and humid it is the ink will disappear usually in less than 24 hours. I often trace a pattern I like from a library book and then copy it by tracing again onto the plastic pages you purchase and cut it out, then trace around that with the disappearing ink pen, the good news is that you have the pattern to use another day, and you can alter it as you see fit when tracing.

tjradj 04-16-2012 12:40 PM

Here's the link to the Don Linn tutorial on this template from tulle process. It's fantastic. It is the monthly tutorial for the Free Motion Quilting challenge from SewCalGal.blogspot.com. Check it out, esp the video.
http://www.sewcalgal.blogspot.ca/201...torial-by.html

Originally Posted by SittingPretty (Post 5141467)
I've heard of using tulle fabric in an embroidery hoop. You mark the design on the tulle with a marker. Then you trace the design through the tulle onto your fabric. You could use a permanent marker on the tulle (NOT ON YOUR QUILT!), if you want to save it, but I guess you could use a washout marker, if you want to use the tulle over again with a different design. As for marking your quilt, some people use the Crayola washable markers. I, too, have found that I have to press harder with the other pencils than the "light touch" in the directions. Otherwise, I like marking with chalk, but it does seem to brush off some.


meanmom 04-16-2012 04:02 PM

I was shown in a machine quilting class to make my own stencils out of poster board. ( thin cardboard) You just draw out your design on the cardboard. Set your sewing machine to a smallish satin stitch. Put in an old needle and sew on the line with no thread in the machine. ( my machine won't sew with no thread, I use thread) sew for several inches then leave a little space like in a regular stencil. Sew out the whole design to cut it just like a regular stencil. THe sewing machine will cut the cardboard out with a nice thin line for you. It works great.

lpsewing 04-16-2012 04:57 PM

I am a newbie,I put this in my favorites right!
Thank you !

Jannie 04-16-2012 07:33 PM

I like the idea of the washable plastic. I will try it on the quilt I am doing now because I don't want to sew over paper and then have to tear it away.

Jannie 04-16-2012 08:09 PM

I should have said water soluble stabilizer instead of washable plastic. I also watch Don Linn tutorial and think I will give that a try. Thanks Tjradj for sharing.

Pat625 04-17-2012 02:12 AM

Been thinking about this one for a few days since reading the post..I like to reuse things, so using plastic wrap isn't for me. What I am thinking is drawing my design out, them laminating it ( I have a $25 laminator that does 8X11 sheets). Then I can cut the lines out using an exacto knife. If I use the heavy laminate pockets I think this could work..anyone ever try this? Will let you know how it goes

Freddie 04-17-2012 06:12 AM

I just watched the video. This is very informative. It opens a whole different aspect of transferring designs. Great!!!


Originally Posted by tjradj (Post 5146136)
Here's the link to the Don Linn tutorial on this template from tulle process. It's fantastic. It is the monthly tutorial for the Free Motion Quilting challenge from SewCalGal.blogspot.com. Check it out, esp the video.
http://www.sewcalgal.blogspot.ca/201...torial-by.html


Happiness is... 04-17-2012 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by Krisb (Post 5141050)
Try using Glad wrap. Really. Sounds crazy, but it works. Try looking at this

http://home.ptd.net/~shoofly/PNS/directions.htm

Gotta try this!!!! Sounds really cool.

liking quilting 04-17-2012 06:27 PM

I will try this; thank you sooooo much!!!


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