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Joyfilled 11-15-2014 02:15 PM

Mixing materials in a rag quilt?
 
Hello everyone! I'm brand new to quilting....sewing for that matter. So new, I've never made a quilt! I have high aspirations though. I have 4 kids, and want to make each of them a rag quilt for Christmas. The finished product will be 9" blocks (12" to start with), 7 x 5. I have no idea if I'm even saying this in correct quilting terms, so please bear with me.

My question is this: I have all the material that I need to make them, including batting for the middle. Some cotton fabrics and some flannel, with minky (is that what it's called?) fabric for the background. The thing is, I'm hearing a LOT of different opinions on this. My aunt says I shouldn't mix the fabrics. Others say there is no problem. Some say that I should wash everything before I cut and sew, others that I shouldn't. ARGH! So many different opinions!! What do you all think? Can anyone offer me some tried and true advice? I'd appreciate it so very much!

I plan on just working on one quilt at a time, and finish as I'm able....although the goal is Christmas, I'm hoping for the best! :)

Edited to add: I also know the basics of sewing, and am confident I can sew in a straight line....haha! :D

kathy 11-15-2014 02:25 PM

most "rules" are just opinions but some are sound advice. I say wash if you think it may shrink or bleed, flannel shrinks a LOT, I don't think minky will "rag" or ravel very much but will be incredibly soft! You'll learn a whloe lot on your first one so hurry and get started, you're missing the fun!

toverly 11-15-2014 03:25 PM

I agree with Kathy, rules are mostly opinions. But there are a few tests you may want to take before you cut everything up and sew it all together. Defnitely wash the flannels. They don't shrink even. You might want to try the minky out on a small piece to see if it "rags". I think all cotton fabrics are so much easier to handle and sew. I've never made a rag quilt, but I have friends who say the rag scissors make the process easier. Just do your testing and Happy Sewing!

PaperPrincess 11-15-2014 03:31 PM

I just have a question. You said you are going to start with 12" blocks and wind up with 9" blocks? Are you thinking one and a half inch seams???

cjsews 11-15-2014 03:40 PM

I agree with the others about rules. Now about mixing fabrics. You can put whatever you like together. Just note that on a rag quilt the finished blocks will be cut to rag out. Different types of fabric will not rag the same. If this look appeals to you, go for it. But definitely prewash the flannel. It will shrink more than the other fabs. Just have fun with the process. Your kids will love it however it turns out. My husband thinks all my quilts should be rag quilts. They are great.

Joyfilled 11-15-2014 04:19 PM

Oh, how exciting!! Thank you so much for your responses!! Now I really can't wait to get started. With 3 at three and under, though, I better wait until they go to bed. Just in about an hour!

I thought I'd start with my son's quilt. That one has the most flannel, but also has some bandanna fabric and jean material. And...his had the cheapest fabric.

I have no idea how it will all look when finished....I appreciate your encouragement! :)

To answer your question, Paper Princess, I thought I'd start with BIG blocks as this is my first attempt and I didn't want to get too discouraged. I think this is how my thought process went, please correct me if I'm wrong, or my measurements are off.....I start with 12" fabric squares, batting of 9". Sew an X through them once assembled. Then sew them together with 1" seams, then cut the rags in half inch cuts. Does this make sense? I'd appreciate y'alls input!

Thanks for the encouragement! :)

ckcowl 11-15-2014 04:36 PM

Quite often when using flannel for raggy quilts we use a 1/2" seam, (12" blocks with 11" batting squares, X across the squares of top, batting back) join squares w/ 1/2" seams then clip, clip, clip ( the closer the better for good full * chenille like,* ragging) you clip down to almost the seam line, being careful to not clip the seam. ( minky doesn't work well, it does not fray/ rag just gets stringy.... Cottons, cotton flannel, and homespun s work great for raggy quilts. After finishing construction and clipping give it a good shake outside before washing, then again between the washer & dryer. When you put it in the dryer check every 10-15 minutes to empty the lint trap, it will fill up fast & often. I usually take it out & shake it 2 or 3 times while drying too.

Joyfilled 11-15-2014 04:43 PM

Ckcowl, thanks!! Would it work to use minky just for the backing? It is soooo very soft....

PaperPrincess 11-15-2014 04:57 PM

You usually don't put a backing on a rag quilt. Cut your batting 1" smaller than your starting square. You put the bottom layer of fabric right side DOWN. place your batting square on top, then one or more layers of cotton/flannel right side UP. Sew an "X" thru it, then sew the squares together with a half inch seam. Clip the seams (for 3 quilts you really should look into getting proper rag quilt scissors). Be careful you don't clip your seam. The bottom layer of fabric is the back of your quilt.

Joyfilled 11-15-2014 05:07 PM

Got the rag quilt scissors! :)

Ummm....I guess I meant minky for the bottom layer (sorry....don't know all the right terms yet!). Would that work?

Joyfilled 11-15-2014 05:53 PM

Ach! I'm rethinking all my measurements now! And I was so careful! I think I was hoping to go for the least amount of sewing for the biggest quilt possible. Does that make sense? I was going to start with a 12" block, sew a 1" seam and then cut the fray at half an inch. That's....not right, is it? *sigh* I thought that would leave me with 9" blocks, but it doesn't. What if I did 12" blocks, a 1/2 inch or 3/4" seam (taking them down to 11" like ckcowl said) and then clip?

One other question....to wash or not to wash? Sounds like I should wash the flannel? Still confused about this, as I hear that it's easier to cut when it's not washed, but then it shrinks once it dries.

So sorry for all the questions....I'm trying to wade through all the information! I appreciate all your help so much! :)

PaperPrincess 11-15-2014 05:57 PM

The idea of a rag quilt is to use fabrics that will fray & make a nice fuzzy rag at the seam. As CKCowl mentioned, minkee doesn't rag. It gets stringy & unfinished edges shed. If you do a search on the board for minky rag quilts, there are several posts and the consensus is that it's not suitable. I would save it for a different project.

Jeanne S 11-15-2014 06:00 PM

I made one regular quilt with Minky and the cut edges just 'shredded' in small pieces--it did not ravel or fringe like cotton or flannel. So I suggest you take a test square of your Minky, cut the edges like you plan to do on the rag quilt, wash it and see what happens. You sure don't want to do all the work assembling a quilt and then Find out the minky does not give you the look you want. Oh and I second the advice about prewashing the flannel as it can shrink a lot and unevenly.

MadQuilter 11-15-2014 06:46 PM

I would recommend that you make a slighly smaller block because you will get more out of your yardage. Most fabric is at least 40" wide so an 8" cut would give you 5 across. A 9" block will only give you 4 cuts and you have lots of excess.

I don't know about the Minky as I am not fond of the way it feels. Try it to see if it even ravels.

dharen7 11-16-2014 05:25 AM

I take my rag quilts to the laundrymat for the first washing. The Homespun rag quilt I made for a fundraiser left a lot of thread in the washer Stopped dryer several times and took outside to shake

omaluvs2quilt 11-16-2014 09:49 AM

I've been quilting for years, but just found someone who wants a rag quilt...SO, I'm making my first one. I used cotton with batting squares in the middle. I haven't washed it yet, but do have to say I did not enjoy the batting being smaller than the fabric squares (according to a youtube video). It was very difficult to keep that 1/2" seam, and for the perfectionist I am, it was quite frustrating.

I saw another video where they used same size batting as squares...that would be much easier to sew, would there be any downfalls?

GrannieAnnie 11-16-2014 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Joyfilled (Post 6969953)
Hello everyone! I'm brand new to quilting....sewing for that matter. So new, I've never made a quilt! I have high aspirations though. I have 4 kids, and want to make each of them a rag quilt for Christmas. The finished product will be 9" blocks (12" to start with), 7 x 5. I have no idea if I'm even saying this in correct quilting terms, so please bear with me.

My question is this: I have all the material that I need to make them, including batting for the middle. Some cotton fabrics and some flannel, with minky (is that what it's called?) fabric for the background. The thing is, I'm hearing a LOT of different opinions on this. My aunt says I shouldn't mix the fabrics. Others say there is no problem. Some say that I should wash everything before I cut and sew, others that I shouldn't. ARGH! So many different opinions!! What do you all think? Can anyone offer me some tried and true advice? I'd appreciate it so very much!

I plan on just working on one quilt at a time, and finish as I'm able....although the goal is Christmas, I'm hoping for the best! :)

Edited to add: I also know the basics of sewing, and am confident I can sew in a straight line....haha! :D

I like to keep fabric that ravels, so I'd never use the minky which is knitted. That is my personal preference. I'd also not use batting. Instead I'd find a solid color heavyweight flannel for the center layer. IMO, cutting batting, fitting it in, and then securing it is just work I'm not interested in.

I've written this so much someone is going to ban me from repeating it. FLANNEL is a fabric finish, not a fiber content. The flannel is most likely cotton, but may contain other fibers, and could be wool. If it's wool, which is a fiber, you'll need to do some serious pre-shrinking. IMO, the main considerations for a rag quilt-------------DOES IT RAVEL? And, has it been shrunk as far as it's going to shrink. Hopefully yes to both

And if you have denim (also a fabric finish, not a fiber content) you can use it in a rag blanket, even if it's stretch denim or has some poly in it.

And you can find cotton (fiber content) that is knitted. Not good since it won't ravel.

GrannieAnnie 11-16-2014 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Joyfilled (Post 6970108)
Oh, how exciting!! Thank you so much for your responses!! Now I really can't wait to get started. With 3 at three and under, though, I better wait until they go to bed. Just in about an hour!

I thought I'd start with my son's quilt. That one has the most flannel, but also has some bandanna fabric and jean material. And...his had the cheapest fabric.

I have no idea how it will all look when finished....I appreciate your encouragement! :)

To answer your question, Paper Princess, I thought I'd start with BIG blocks as this is my first attempt and I didn't want to get too discouraged. I think this is how my thought process went, please correct me if I'm wrong, or my measurements are off.....I start with 12" fabric squares, batting of 9". Sew an X through them once assembled. Then sew them together with 1" seams, then cut the rags in half inch cuts. Does this make sense? I'd appreciate y'alls input!

Thanks for the encouragement! :)

Here's an idea to make the blankets ever easier and a whole lot faster. Cut strips (WOF 42/43") 7"to 9" wide. Fabric is about 42", so that would be a good width for little guys--------even bigger guys. Skip the batting and add a layer of solid color flannel for softness and warmth. You can make one in a few evenings after the kids are asleep. Save the squares for a time when you have more time.

GrannieAnnie 11-16-2014 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by ckcowl (Post 6970130)
Quite often when using flannel for raggy quilts we use a 1/2" seam, (12" blocks with 11" batting squares, X across the squares of top, batting back) join squares w/ 1/2" seams then clip, clip, clip ( the closer the better for good full * chenille like,* ragging) you clip down to almost the seam line, being careful to not clip the seam. ( minky doesn't work well, it does not fray/ rag just gets stringy.... Cottons, cotton flannel, and homespun s work great for raggy quilts. After finishing construction and clipping give it a good shake outside before washing, then again between the washer & dryer. When you put it in the dryer check every 10-15 minutes to empty the lint trap, it will fill up fast & often. I usually take it out & shake it 2 or 3 times while drying too.

you clip 1/2" seams???????????????? Seems like a waste of time and effort.

GrannieAnnie 11-16-2014 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Joyfilled (Post 6970142)
Ckcowl, thanks!! Would it work to use minky just for the backing? It is soooo very soft....

Minky is a knitted product and WILL NOT RAVEL.

GrannieAnnie 11-16-2014 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by GrannieAnnie (Post 6971163)
Here's an idea to make the blankets ever easier and a whole lot faster. Cut strips (WOF 42/43") 7"to 9" wide. Fabric is about 42", so that would be a good width for little guys--------even bigger guys. Skip the batting and add a layer of solid color flannel for softness and warmth. You can make one in a few evenings after the kids are asleep. Save the squares for a time when you have more time.



Oh, if you do the WOF strips, make sure you rip off 1/8" along the selvages or the ends won't ravel out.

GrannieAnnie 11-16-2014 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by omaluvs2quilt (Post 6971112)
I've been quilting for years, but just found someone who wants a rag quilt...SO, I'm making my first one. I used cotton with batting squares in the middle. I haven't washed it yet, but do have to say I did not enjoy the batting being smaller than the fabric squares (according to a youtube video). It was very difficult to keep that 1/2" seam, and for the perfectionist I am, it was quite frustrating.

I saw another video where they used same size batting as squares...that would be much easier to sew, would there be any downfalls?

Next time, skip the batting and use solid color flannel----same size as your squares------for the inner warm layer. I refuse to fight bits of batting.

GrannieAnnie 11-16-2014 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by Joyfilled (Post 6970172)
Got the rag quilt scissors! :)

Ummm....I guess I meant minky for the bottom layer (sorry....don't know all the right terms yet!). Would that work?

One of God's greatest inventions, well, Fiskars, anyway. Yes the backing is the back piece--------but Minky won't ravel.

GrannieAnnie 11-16-2014 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by omaluvs2quilt (Post 6971112)
I've been quilting for years, but just found someone who wants a rag quilt...SO, I'm making my first one. I used cotton with batting squares in the middle. I haven't washed it yet, but do have to say I did not enjoy the batting being smaller than the fabric squares (according to a youtube video). It was very difficult to keep that 1/2" seam, and for the perfectionist I am, it was quite frustrating.

I saw another video where they used same size batting as squares...that would be much easier to sew, would there be any downfalls?

Yes, big downfall----------who wants to see clipped batting all over a quilt?

GrannieAnnie 11-16-2014 10:43 AM

Joyfilled, I've been badmouthing the minky for a rag quilt. Won't happen in this house. If you really, really, really want Minky, just know the clipped pieces will NOT look like the clipped edges of your woven fabrics. If that is not a problem for you, far be it for me to tell you not to use Minky.

omaluvs2quilt 11-25-2014 12:09 PM

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Thank you! That's where I was heading...I'm not super satisfied with the first one, so "take 2" is coming up. I used the 1/2" fringe/seam, but this time I think I'm going for 3/4 to 1" for more fluff. I also notice that the outside fringe is very thin since its only 2 layers of cotton, hoping that will be fluffier with the flannel in between also?

This is after 2 washing/drying sessions...

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Originally Posted by GrannieAnnie (Post 6971181)
Next time, skip the batting and use solid color flannel----same size as your squares------for the inner warm layer. I refuse to fight bits of batting.


sewingsuz 11-25-2014 04:36 PM

Hi, I have made several rag quilts with no batting. I just use two layers of flannel and it is heavy enough. Yes You need to wash and dry your fabric so all the shrinking is done. Sew with 1/2 inch or more seams. I clip the edges about every 5/8 inch apart or a little more. Yes i do the x in the middle of each square. Good luck and show us your results. Those rag scissors are great and your hands won't hurt. I hope we all have not confused you.

slbram17 11-25-2014 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by omaluvs2quilt (Post 6971112)
I've been quilting for years, but just found someone who wants a rag quilt...SO, I'm making my first one. I used cotton with batting squares in the middle. I haven't washed it yet, but do have to say I did not enjoy the batting being smaller than the fabric squares (according to a youtube video). It was very difficult to keep that 1/2" seam, and for the perfectionist I am, it was quite frustrating.

I saw another video where they used same size batting as squares...that would be much easier to sew, would there be any downfalls?

The last time I made a rag quilt, I used flannel as the middle layer square and same size as the outer layers. Frayed wonderfully.
If you use the batting as the middle layer and it is the same size, you will see the batting which may or may not be attractive to you.


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