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DebsShelties 01-09-2011 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by Rose_P

Originally Posted by DebsShelties
I am wondering if the new plastic bag tax goes thru with the new congress (20 cents PER bag) if fabric stores will be charging for that also.
Seems one guy tried to get the plastic bags outlawed, didn't work so now he wants to impose another tax on the people.
They said on the news that it is mainly aimed at grocery stores, but I have a feeling it would be any retail operation that uses plastic bags.
We the people are getting taxed to death and beyond.

If they do that, I'll be making reusable bags from the uglier parts of my stash. I should have done it by now, except I reuse the plastic ones for cleaning the cat litter and picking up after the dogs, and will have to come up with another plan.

That is one of the things I use the plastic bags for also. And they are perfect size for the small bathroom trash containers.
Congress has to pass the tax on the bags first. We can hope and pray that they decline passage of this guys tax.

DebsShelties 01-09-2011 02:41 AM


Originally Posted by cmw0829

Originally Posted by DebsShelties
I am wondering if the new plastic bag tax goes thru with the new congress (20 cents PER bag) if fabric stores will be charging for that also.


My LQS gives you a $5 punch on their savings card if you don't take a bag. (Not sure how many punches it takes to cash in the card though.)

Despite the prices, I will patronize my LQS and others in my area as much as I can since. If we don't, we'll turn around and look for them and they'll be gone. But I will shop sales and the clearance room as much as possible.

Charlee, I would have loved to hear your political comments - probably would have agreed with you - but better to stay away from the topic. :)

One shop here has what they call Bag Lady Day - 3rd Sat of each month. You buy a cloth bag with their name on it, take it in on that day and get 20% off your whole purchase.
Another does punch cards and you have to fill up the card - takes a long time though before you get the $$ discount.

stitchinwitch 01-09-2011 06:02 AM

' was wondering - do you think there MIGHT be a new trend in "synthetic quilts" - just a thought..

QultingaddictUK 01-09-2011 06:08 AM

I think someone may have a go but I don't think you will get any quilter away from their beloved cotton for quilting. With batting there already is a couple, Bamboo and one made from Plastic bottles :shock: are ones that I know of, but they are expensive, although the Bamboo one is fab, IMO

JUNEC 01-09-2011 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by roxannebcb

Originally Posted by Drew
You may want to consider purchasing fabric from Connecting Threads!

How is the fabric from Connecting Threads? Is it more like Joann's or like a quilt store? Do you know what I mean?

I just love the fabric from Connecting Thread - order there all the time

CarrieAnne 01-09-2011 07:08 AM

I love Connecting Threads fabrics too!

Mattee 01-09-2011 07:41 AM

Search for Connecting Threads - lots of opinions. Some love it, others not so much. Myself, I think it's between Joann's and LQS quality.

As for the plastic bags, I think there should be a tax on them. We need to start paying for what we use. If you choose to use something that is wasteful and polluting to produce when there are relatively harmless alterntives, you should pay for it. It's a sin tax just like any other. I never take a plastic bag when shopping.

As for fabric prices, let's not panic until there's something to panic about. I'll wait and see what prices actually end up being at LQS's and online before worrying too much.

sewjoyce 01-09-2011 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by JUNEC

Originally Posted by roxannebcb

Originally Posted by Drew
You may want to consider purchasing fabric from Connecting Threads!

How is the fabric from Connecting Threads? Is it more like Joann's or like a quilt store? Do you know what I mean?

I just love the fabric from Connecting Thread - order there all the time

Me too! Their service is GREAT! And I love their quilt kits!! :thumbup:

rb. 01-09-2011 08:26 AM

Just like gas, and wheat a few years ago (remember when the cost of a bag of flour tripled?), cotton will go up and down. For the Americans on the forum, I don't think you realize how very inexpensive your consumer goods have been for decades, as compared to other countries. You are now beginning to catch up to the rest of us. In Canada, I've been paying $16-$22 a metre (about a yard) for batiks for years, and a metre of batting at a national fabric store has run between $20-$30.

quiltnerd 01-09-2011 08:30 AM

I wonder what is going to happen over here in Britain - I often see cotton at £12/metre!

Mattee 01-09-2011 08:37 AM

I agree. Products in the US are usually much cheaper than elsewhere. Just compare gas prices!


Originally Posted by rb.
Just like gas, and wheat a few years ago (remember when the cost of a bag of flour tripled?), cotton will go up and down. For the Americans on the forum, I don't think you realize how very inexpensive your consumer goods have been for decades, as compared to other countries. You are now beginning to catch up to the rest of us. In Canada, I've been paying $16-$22 a metre (about a yard) for batiks for years, and a metre of batting at a national fabric store has run between $20-$30.


QultingaddictUK 01-09-2011 08:38 AM

I went into one of my LQS, it was empty, and I looked at a particular coloured fabric that I wanted, when I asked the price she said "£9 per metre" without thinking I said "No wonder your shop is empty" :shock: I apologised and we spoke for a while but I walked out without buying anything. I know that they have to hold stock for such a while and our Import duty is enormous but............

Quilting is an expensive hobby so I shop around. As I have said in other postings I buy my fabric from thousandsofbolts and a UK store http://www.abakhan.co.uk/acatalog/Craft_Fabrics.html which I am fortunate enough to live close enough for us Ladies to have a day out, lunching n shopping :P but they do a good postal service.

Until the UK government does something about the Import duty, which will not be in my lifetime, we have to suffer it although I don't know how much longer our LQS will be able to continue.

Momsmurf 01-09-2011 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by DebsShelties

Originally Posted by Rose_P

Originally Posted by DebsShelties
I am wondering if the new plastic bag tax goes thru with the new congress (20 cents PER bag) if fabric stores will be charging for that also.
Seems one guy tried to get the plastic bags outlawed, didn't work so now he wants to impose another tax on the people.
They said on the news that it is mainly aimed at grocery stores, but I have a feeling it would be any retail operation that uses plastic bags.
We the people are getting taxed to death and beyond.

If they do that, I'll be making reusable bags from the uglier parts of my stash. I should have done it by now, except I reuse the plastic ones for cleaning the cat litter and picking up after the dogs, and will have to come up with another plan.

That is one of the things I use the plastic bags for also. And they are perfect size for the small bathroom trash containers.
Congress has to pass the tax on the bags first. We can hope and pray that they decline passage of this guys tax.



From wht I've heard, it's safer and healthier to make our own grocery/shopping bags since "they" have said that lead has been detected in the some of the reusable bags being offered. I suppose those are the ones manufactured in China.

I find it interesting that there is such an uproar over the plastic bags since it is made from the otherwise unuseable by-product in the production of natural gas and would otherwise be wasted, along with the jobs for those involved in the process. I'd rather get rid of the junkie plastic toys - also loaded with lead.

Making our own bags would be a great way of using "ugly" fabric (only ugly in the eyes of the beholder) and satisfying the urge to sew and be creative at the same time.

lynnie 01-09-2011 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Renee110
I'll just have to start buying cheap material and making do. You know, I remember the reason my mother made our clothes was to save money. Now it's cheaper to buy the clothes and not make them. I'm only 40 so I'm not talking about in the 30's or anything. I grew up late 70's and 80's.

it's cheaper to buy at wally world than to even think of making things now.

DebsShelties 01-09-2011 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Momsmurf

Originally Posted by DebsShelties

Originally Posted by Rose_P

Originally Posted by DebsShelties
I am wondering if the new plastic bag tax goes thru with the new congress (20 cents PER bag) if fabric stores will be charging for that also.
Seems one guy tried to get the plastic bags outlawed, didn't work so now he wants to impose another tax on the people.
They said on the news that it is mainly aimed at grocery stores, but I have a feeling it would be any retail operation that uses plastic bags.
We the people are getting taxed to death and beyond.

If they do that, I'll be making reusable bags from the uglier parts of my stash. I should have done it by now, except I reuse the plastic ones for cleaning the cat litter and picking up after the dogs, and will have to come up with another plan.

That is one of the things I use the plastic bags for also. And they are perfect size for the small bathroom trash containers.
Congress has to pass the tax on the bags first. We can hope and pray that they decline passage of this guys tax.



From wht I've heard, it's safer and healthier to make our own grocery/shopping bags since "they" have said that lead has been detected in the some of the reusable bags being offered. I suppose those are the ones manufactured in China.

I find it interesting that there is such an uproar over the plastic bags since it is made from the otherwise unuseable by-product in the production of natural gas and would otherwise be wasted, along with the jobs for those involved in the process. I'd rather get rid of the junkie plastic toys - also loaded with lead.

Making our own bags would be a great way of using "ugly" fabric (only ugly in the eyes of the beholder) and satisfying the urge to sew and be creative at the same time.

Grocery store where I shop has recycled on the bags. They are doing something to keep the junk trash down.
One might think oh it's only 20 cents a bag - hey it ADDS up over time. With everything else going up, that added cost means you can't purchase as much when it comes to things like food.

bakermom 01-09-2011 11:11 AM

There is also the problem of cross contamination with your reusable bags if you don't wash them between uses.

Tweety2911 01-09-2011 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by rismstress
It's a good thing I have enough fabric to last me two lifetimes. I won't be buying at these prices too often.
Cheryl

Same here, only will buy fill ins.

ladyredhawk 01-09-2011 11:19 AM

how can people afford to buy them. before long quilts will be so much to make no one will buy them.

jellybelly5000 01-09-2011 11:34 AM

I have heard dont be surprised at $12.00 a yard batiks

cheryl rearick 01-09-2011 11:36 AM

I guess we can look at it a couple of ways. In the 70's there was a BIG price hike in sugar. We women knew life could go on without that little pack of sugar. Women drove the prices down. Gas, well it has gone up little by little, however more people are car pooling OR just not going to town as often. NOT spending the money. YET the gas war of the 70's also put the little man out of business. When I see price hikes like this, It makes me wonder, can the little shops survive? How can we quilters HELP the little shops stay in business? They are out teachers and there for us. Can the little shops sell more at whole sale and make their money in the class room (sort of speaking)? When people learn to WORK TOGETHER helping each other, we on a whole will get our needs met as well. (for instance) IF I were to lose my job, had difficulty paying house note, before I gave up, I'd rent rooms out to save my home.) So I guess I ask you other quilters, HOW can we help the little guy stay in business??????

Jennifer22206 01-09-2011 11:37 AM

oh no! I need to stock up! I could probably only last one lifetime with the fabric I have.

And we all know that fabric will never come back down again!

QultingaddictUK 01-09-2011 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by bakermom
There is also the problem of cross contamination with your reusable bags if you don't wash them between uses.

My pressies this Christmas to my friends, my family has them already, were Eco-shoppers, similar to this: http://thumb4.webshots.net/t/76/176/...4OVTAPl_th.jpg no problem with cross contamination as they are washable :-P

I have loads of totes/shoppers and there are so many freebie patterns on the WWW.

Wings 01-09-2011 12:22 PM

I feel that quilters will just think more before they buy fabric, really work out what they want to make and lets face it, we are all prone to adding to the stash without thinking. Good quality will always win, and quilting has been going for a long time and has survived wars worldwide so it will survive this too. Shops will probably have to rely on more teaching to add to their income. In my country quilt fabric is very high priced compared to yours and we all still quilt. I guess we just have to be careful more with what and how much we buy.

bakermom 01-09-2011 12:36 PM

your bag is cute! I use ones i made, too. I have a number of ones that i bought at my local stores. They are not quite as happy when they get washed.


Originally Posted by QultingaddictUK

Originally Posted by bakermom
There is also the problem of cross contamination with your reusable bags if you don't wash them between uses.

My pressies this Christmas to my friends, my family has them already, were Eco-shoppers, similar to this: http://thumb4.webshots.net/t/76/176/...4OVTAPl_th.jpg no problem with cross contamination as they are washable :-P

I have loads of totes/shoppers and there are so many freebie patterns on the WWW.


QKO 01-09-2011 12:43 PM

How about putting this in a little perspective?

USA - Average price increases in various items, 1990 - 2010:

45" Flannel Solids - 32%
45 " Premium Cloth - 33%
Coats/Clark thread - 69%
Bread - 284%
Ground Beef - 270%
Gasoline - 200%
Taxes - Let's not even go there...

Mattee 01-09-2011 12:46 PM

That's great! Thanks!


Originally Posted by QKO
How about putting this in a little perspective?

USA - Average price increases in various items, 1990 - 2010:

45" Flannel Solids - 32%
45 " Premium Cloth - 33%
Coats/Clark thread - 69%
Bread - 284%
Ground Beef - 270%
Gasoline - 200%
Taxes - Let's not even go there...


granny216 01-09-2011 02:45 PM

So what else is new. I'm so happy I have a large stash and only have to buy the odd piece here and there. DH used to wonder why I bought so much fabric...oh, for a project. But I never said what or when!

Originally Posted by charmpacksplus
Consider yourself warned.... Moda tried to hold their prices but just couldn't do it any longer. Retailers will be paying more on the next batch of new fabrics. Batiks are going up A LOT!


Nolee 01-09-2011 03:02 PM

My Dad said that during the Depression prices went down so that people could afford them. You wonder what the manufacturers of cotton have as an end goal.....to end all quilting? That's what they are going to get if this continues. We will all be cutting apart our clothing to sew. Back to Goodwill for me!!

QKO 01-09-2011 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by Nolee
My Dad said that during the Depression prices went down so that people could afford them. You wonder what the manufacturers of cotton have as an end goal.....to end all quilting? That's what they are going to get if this continues. We will all be cutting apart our clothing to sew. Back to Goodwill for me!!

Prices went down during the depression for some things because people couldn't afford to buy them. This caused supply to be greater than demand, therefore prices went down.

Cotton is in high demand now, and the supply is low, therefore prices will continue to rise. See Economics 101.

Manufacturers don't have an agenda, other than to make a profit in order to stay in business. When that becomes impossible, they'll go out of business and more people will become unemployed.

It really is as simple as that.

pawebdoctor 01-09-2011 04:16 PM

I also read that JoAnn's is going to be taken over sometime early in this new year. Who knows what that will do to the cost of material and such???

Nolee 01-09-2011 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by pawebdoctor
I also read that JoAnn's is going to be taken over sometime early in this new year. Who knows what that will do to the cost of material and such???

The takeover has already happened but it is a acquisition, not a takeover. Things are SUPPOSED to remain the same.

Nolee 01-09-2011 06:46 PM

See Economics 101.

Manufacturers don't have an agenda, other than to make a profit in order to stay in business. When that becomes impossible, they'll go out of business and more people will become unemployed.

It really is as simple as that.[/quote]

Yeah, I never took that...guess it shows.

:roll:

auntiehenno 01-10-2011 05:58 AM

Have heard this - but know we can buy goog fabric on line.

TexasGurl 01-10-2011 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by lynnie

Originally Posted by Renee110
I'll just have to start buying cheap material and making do. You know, I remember the reason my mother made our clothes was to save money. Now it's cheaper to buy the clothes and not make them. I'm only 40 so I'm not talking about in the 30's or anything. I grew up late 70's and 80's.

it's cheaper to buy at wally world than to even think of making things now.

Yes it IS cheaper ... but that's exactly what got us into the manuf. dilemma & trade deficits we are in NOW
I fear soon China /Asia will own us ALL and our grandkids will all be working for them !! :(

TexasGurl 01-10-2011 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by charmpacksplus

Originally Posted by CarrieAnne
Oh, no! I wonder what they mean ALOT?!

I think the sales rep said the retail price per yard would be $12. I looked at the fat quarter bundles and the price would be $4 per FQ. Ouch!

and I remember when I thought $7 yd at LQS was TOO much to pay!! I'll be sewing up all my stash now ... badly need to, anyway!

mickeyquilts 01-10-2011 10:42 AM

Our LQS owner said she receives a magazine for quilt shop owners which had an article in it (which she showed us) that the cost of cotton has really gone up in the past year, now the price of our fabric is starting to climb.

Nolee 01-10-2011 12:23 PM

Due largely to the floods in Pakistan which wiped out a great deal of the cotton crop. Where are our Texas cotton fields and why aren't they producing what we need. We HAVE it!!

maxi 01-10-2011 01:49 PM

That is hard to take. I don't like the local chain fabric store but with their 50% off coupons maybe I can just double the fabric when I use it?

Or how about Connecting Threads? Or other online companies? Is it going up there too?

Mattee 01-10-2011 01:59 PM

CT just raised their prices.

yolanda 01-10-2011 02:56 PM

I NEED to buy charm packs immediately ;-)


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