july is free shipping only this month but you will pay sales tax for state your in on first payment. They said this machine is always available . They have deal with singer

I really really want this machine but will have to put off for a few months, before I can order. Then b/f said I may order be my christmas present and he will pay shipping. I priced same machine is over 2000.00 with out all the extras. 3900 extra desingns included on those disks whatever and is computor whatever. Sorry mind fogged but sure you know what I mean.

OK Billy I'm with you on the old ones being as good as any newer ones that I have seen. I have an Singer Touch N Sew that I bought about 30 years ago second hand for $100 and it has sewed every thing from simple bags to expensive wedding gowns.

I bought a Viking 2 years ago because I thought the machine embroidery was going to be so much fun because it was computerized but let me just say this, I would NEVER buy another computerized machine for so much money and have nothing but PLASTIC parts in it. That is so lame as far as I'm concerned. When you spend $4000 or more for a machine and all you get is plastic then you are not going to get the miles on it as you would the older machines.
They are not built to last, they are build to break so you have to spend more money and the company stays in business.

I have used this new machine a total of 30 times, sewing embroidery designs and yes it did do a good job most of the time (sometimes, it would jam up the threads and I had to start all over, never could figure out why it did that) but the feel of the machine is so flimsy that I would be afraid to sew with it like I can on the old Singer.

The other thing I don't like about the Viking is that every thing (like attachments and all) you buy for this cost $50 or more. Even a simple hoop cost $75 and if I remember right that was for a medium sized one.

So if you don't want to go broke buying a sewing machine with all the parts you might need for quilting, then stay clear of the Viking.

Singer also has down loads for there futura machines, just for information for anyone that has one, mine is an older model, so when my friend bought me a lap top for my birthday last year, I called singer, and they walked me through the process of changing it to fit the vista. God bless. Penny

what will you get toward an upgrade? i wouldn't put a lot of money into a machine of that age. that mother board is an indication of the beginning of the end. i'm curious. why have you only been using it for 2 years? did you purchase it as a refurb?

imo, a dual function machine is not the best way to get the best of either function.
just what i've read.

don't know HOW it happened, but all my equipment is plugged into surge protectors. just lucky ,i guess !

Seek another opinion. I have several friends who have never had trouble with their machines (Brothers), but found much more reasonable repair people when needed. Try a local college campus for computer tech students or even an instructor. Computers are computers after all.

Cheapest part of embroidery sewing machines is the initial purchase price; designs and tools, hoops etc cost much more but expensive software is not needed unless you want to learn digitizing; Buzz Xplore, Edit and Size are excellent programmes for the average sewer and now there is a Buzz2 package with basic automatic digitizing. I have used Janome and Generations Digitizing programmes but found they're not absolutely necessary.

I cannot tell you how glad I am to see these posts about motherboard problems. I have a Janome 11000 (two years old) and an SE11000 (one year old) about four months ago the first mb went in my SE, within two weeks the one in my 11000 went. I took them both in to my dealer and both were replaced under warranty. When I got the machines back one would no longer bobbin wind and the other always thought the bobbin was empty, inconvenient. Then just a couple of months after that, the SE blew another motherboard. They are refusing to cover the second mb under warranty stating that it must be a problem with the wiring/power in my house. I have all of my machines on surge suppressors, and I have two sergers, a Janome HD machine, and a computer in that same room on the same surge supressors, none of them experiencing any problems. The cost to replace this motherboard again is $800!!! For a machine that was one year old in February and that has so far, now, spent four months in the service shop. Thank you for giving me information to go back to the dealer with to hopefully fight to have this fixed properly!

I'd get the MB replaced on the Pfaff 2170. I dislike the newer top feed bobbin machines. The 2170 is a vertical bobbin. I happen to use Babylock Software and bought a separate computer with XP just for crafts, etc. The computer has no internet connection, so I don't have to worry about botnets or malware. I just download updates, etc. thru Ubuntu which has an AV especially for checking these files.