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Diane C. 01-28-2011 07:52 AM

Nancy's Notions has things that look like bicycle clips you can roll a quilt petty tightly with this. I have quilted king size on my viking saphire with no problems Diane C.

Rosie Rockwood 01-28-2011 08:45 AM

I just want to add to the other quotes that it takes guts to challenge yourself to such a large project. You go girl. I really have problems with the machine quilting as well, but decided to challenge myself and did it. Put aside the doubts and go for it, it worked for me. My frugile nature just does not see the point of paying someone for quilting, after I have recycled old clothing or ties to make the tops. Good luck you can do it. Taking breaks when the back or neck get tiered helps.

IBQUILTIN 01-28-2011 10:43 AM

I would try to nest it (puddle) that way you only have a small amount under the arm at any one time.

katiebear1 01-28-2011 10:51 AM

Yes I agree. My Pfaff has a 10 inch throat and I easily quilted a Cal king. Of course I just did stippling. The nesting method works best for me also.

GrandmaJeanne 01-28-2011 11:05 AM

Anna, this topic really caught my interest, as I've always wanted to do machine quilting on my own machine which is a Janome 6500 just like yours, but was afraid to try it. But I know you can do it with all the positive answers and encouragement. I know after reading this, I'm sure gonna give it a try---the next time with my quilt. Looking forward to seeing your quilt on the board.

Annaquilts 01-28-2011 01:27 PM

Thanks for the heads up. I did finnish spray basting but I think I will add a pin for every block and hand baste with thread along the edges. Like some one mentioned it is too easy to get the back to bunch up and sew through multiple layers. Hopefully all the extra basting will prevent that. today will be the big day I am starting.



Originally Posted by Fabaddict
one thing I would do is either thread baste or pin baste - the spray baste stuff tends to slip and slide. I only use it for small things - placemats, table runners.


Annaquilts 01-28-2011 01:38 PM

Thank you for the vote of confidence. I am sure feeling much better prepared with all the tips and info. The quilt has its main quilting lines drawn on it waiting for me. I should start this afternoon after I add the basting pins and hand baste the edge. I plan to pace it over days/weeks.


Originally Posted by GrandmaJeanne
Anna, this topic really caught my interest, as I've always wanted to do machine quilting on my own machine which is a Janome 6500 just like yours, but was afraid to try it. But I know you can do it with all the positive answers and encouragement. I know after reading this, I'm sure gonna give it a try---the next time with my quilt. Looking forward to seeing your quilt on the board.


Delilah 01-28-2011 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by Annaquilts
Thanks for the heads up. I did finnish spray basting but I think I will add a pin for every block and hand baste with thread along the edges. Like some one mentioned it is too easy to get the back to bunch up and sew through multiple layers. Hopefully all the extra basting will prevent that. today will be the big day I am starting.

The first thing I would do is eliminate all but a couple of inches on all sides of the extra batting and backing. That will cut down on the bulk A LOT. I have spray basted about 120+ quilts, many very large ones, and have never had a problem with slipping or sliding and I never use pins or those bicycle clips. I would push and pull and start in the center, just make sure you have a lot of table space to the left and behind the machine to support the quilt. I also do not use gloves because I have discovered using glycerin. Just a drop or two on your fingers and palms will give your hands all the tackiness you need, it washes off easily and is good for chapped/cracked hands. Let us know how you did.

Annaquilts 01-28-2011 05:53 PM

LOL Did you read my mind? So I am sitting here procrastinating starting the quilting. I just told my DD 13 who has been helping me baste and put on the quilting lines, lets first trim down the edges. Alright, off I go trimming the edges.



Originally Posted by Delilah

Originally Posted by Annaquilts
Thanks for the heads up. I did finnish spray basting but I think I will add a pin for every block and hand baste with thread along the edges. Like some one mentioned it is too easy to get the back to bunch up and sew through multiple layers. Hopefully all the extra basting will prevent that. today will be the big day I am starting.

The first thing I would do is eliminate all but a couple of inches on all sides of the extra batting and backing. That will cut down on the bulk A LOT. I have spray basted about 120+ quilts, many very large ones, and have never had a problem with slipping or sliding and I never use pins or those bicycle clips. I would push and pull and start in the center, just make sure you have a lot of table space to the left and behind the machine to support the quilt. I also do not use gloves because I have discovered using glycerin. Just a drop or two on your fingers and palms will give your hands all the tackiness you need, it washes off easily and is good for chapped/cracked hands. Let us know how you did.


butterflywing 01-28-2011 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Prism99
Since you've already spray-basted to the backing, I'm not sure this will help.

You can separate the batting into 3 pieces. This eliminates the bulk on each side while you are machine quilting the center. I first saw this technique described in detail in a book by Debra Wagner. Marti Michell now has a book out on how to do it. A long time ago I posted how to do it, and someone later PM'd me that it had worked very well for you. Later on, if I can find my old post, I will link it here.

Haven't found my old post (200 pages of old posts to work through!). However, here is a link to the Marti Michell book:
http://www.amazon.com/Machine-Quilti.../dp/B000NNGZJE

I'm not absolutely certain, but I think this is the Debra Wagner book that has excellent instructions on this technique:
http://www.amazon.com/Traditional-Qu...dp/0801986605/

i think what is being referred to is the flip method where each of three parts is quilted separately and then put together like a QAYG, but no sashing. the front edges are sewn right sides together and the back, left open, is hand stitched to close. when the three parts are connected the quilt is done. you finish it off with binding in the normal way. before i got my LA, this was a way i used successfully a couple of times for extra-large queens. if you want more precise instructions, pm me.

k9dancer 01-28-2011 08:13 PM

I machine quilt large quilts on an old featherweight which has a small harp. I use spray basting as well as hand basting about 2 to 3 inches apart. It is absolutely critical to use a thin batting, like cotton. Warm & Natural or Hobbs are good. Poly batts tend to be fluffier, particularly the high loft battings. High loft is a nightmare to quilt by hand or machine. If you have chosen this and want to stick with it, I'd suggest tying the quilt.
I always start in the center and work in the lower right quadrant. You may wish to also baste sections with wash out basting thread before you begin your quilting. Good luck!

Annaquilts 01-28-2011 08:48 PM

Yes, definitely thinner batting. I have Warm and Natural in it. I did the center block and a couple around it. Slow and steady. I now feel confident it will get done.



Originally Posted by k9dancer
I machine quilt large quilts on an old featherweight which has a small harp. I use spray basting as well as hand basting about 2 to 3 inches apart. It is absolutely critical to use a thin batting, like cotton. Warm & Natural or Hobbs are good. Poly batts tend to be fluffier, particularly the high loft battings. High loft is a nightmare to quilt by hand or machine. If you have chosen this and want to stick with it, I'd suggest tying the quilt.
I always start in the center and work in the lower right quadrant. You may wish to also baste sections with wash out basting thread before you begin your quilting. Good luck!


Gerbie 01-28-2011 09:16 PM

Go to Sharon Schambers web site and check out her quilting. I love how she does her basting. I pland to do this same thing on the next large quilt I do. Currently working on a baby quilt needed by 2-19. Just cut it out last night and was out of town today. Really working on it aren't I. lol. Congrats on your new DIL and good luck on the quilt. You can do it, I have done all of my quilts on my reg. Bernina 930 - No long arm and no access to one. I just can't bring myself to send one out, all who do long arms in my area are at least 80-100 miles away.

bjdemir 01-28-2011 09:31 PM

Good luck, I am sure it will turn out beautifully and will be much appreciated and loved.

DogHouseMom 01-28-2011 09:37 PM

I'm reading too! I'm in the same bind with the same size quilt and the same machine!! The only difference is that I intend on keeping mine :)

Dee 01-28-2011 09:39 PM

Go for it! You can do it. You'll somehow manage to get it all finished and it will be beautiful.

diane Sneed 01-28-2011 09:57 PM

Prism 99 has the answer! Also, my teachers use" band-aids" to reattach the batting. These are strips of pellon that can be ironed onto batting and you don't have to zig-zag or sew the batting. They cut 20 or 30 "band-aids" and put them in a small bowl and reattach the batting every 4 or 5 inches.Very easy!

QultingaddictUK 01-29-2011 04:31 AM

I am waiting with bated breath to hear how you get on, I have no doubt that you can do it but I want to hear how well you got on seeing all the fabulous tips and encouragement you have had,

k9dancer 01-29-2011 07:09 AM

I no longer use safety pins or quilt 'guns' with the plastic barbs for quilts I plan to machine quilt. The safety pins get in the way and could scratch your machine. The barbs, being as I stupidly bought the clear ones, are too hard to see; sewing over them will either break your thread or needle, or cause major thread bunching.

Both of these items are excellent for hand quilting, though.

QultingaddictUK 01-29-2011 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by k9dancer
I no longer use safety pins or quilt 'guns' with the plastic barbs for quilts I plan to machine quilt. The safety pins get in the way and could scratch your machine. The barbs, being as I stupidly bought the clear ones, are too hard to see; sewing over them will either break your thread or needle, or cause major thread bunching.

Both of these items are excellent for hand quilting, though.

I only ever use 505 spray since I found it, I just use a few safety pins on the corner and sides to hold it for storing as I have sometimes found that I have to reposition as I get nearer the edges, I have never found a need for any other basting.

At my class on Friday one of our members twice got her micro tacks stuck in her machine and she said they are a nightmare to take out, so I won't be going down that road :roll:

jojosnana 01-29-2011 12:46 PM

I wish you good luck and go get yourself a massage after it is done. God Bless you....

penski 01-29-2011 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Prism99
Since you've already spray-basted to the backing, I'm not sure this will help.

You can separate the batting into 3 pieces. This eliminates the bulk on each side while you are machine quilting the center. I first saw this technique described in detail in a book by Debra Wagner. Marti Michell now has a book out on how to do it. A long time ago I posted how to do it, and someone later PM'd me that it had worked very well for you. Later on, if I can find my old post, I will link it here.

Haven't found my old post (200 pages of old posts to work through!). However, here is a link to the Marti Michell book:
http://www.amazon.com/Machine-Quilti.../dp/B000NNGZJE

I'm not absolutely certain, but I think this is the Debra Wagner book that has excellent instructions on this technique:
http://www.amazon.com/Traditional-Qu...dp/0801986605/

the way you descibed is the only way i quilt mine when doing a large size quilt and it works great !!

MadQuilter 01-29-2011 02:50 PM

Just go slow and you'll do fine. Kudos to you for even trying it.

cheryl rearick 01-29-2011 10:29 PM

Just last week I was watching a tutorial abt this subject. She took top and folded over front to front, abt half way. Then actually cut the batting in a zig zag way clear across the quilt, (side to side) Then rolled side with no batting toward side with batting, machine stitched that half. Then she sewed the batting back on it's self in a zig zag stitch, Turned quilt around to finish top quiting on the other side. ???? couldn't tell batting was ever cut. So all she ever had rolled at one time was half. :)

Annz 01-29-2011 10:40 PM

Yikes!!

quiltsyl 01-30-2011 10:01 AM

I have also done a king on a regular machine. It is bulky, but can be done. However, the last one I did, I did the center part on the backing with the batting a little larger than the center part, approx 60 x 60, then I added the borders and batting. Less bulk. I have also done the split backing method. Hope this helps.

toodie11 01-30-2011 04:43 PM

I have done the nest tech on my sons King wedding quilt, I also have a Janome 6500, So it can be done, must have gloves.
I am going to try the method where you put the batting in the middle and quilt, then do the outsides (next time) that does sound easier. Good luck,

Annaquilts 02-11-2011 02:23 PM

Update_ I am doing the border on the 10x10 ft quilt. The end is in sight. I ended up doing the nesting technique and it all worked out with lots of breaks. Once it is all done I hope to post a picture. Whoohoo the wedding is in a week and the end is in sight for this mammoth of a quilt. Thank you all for your ideas, support and encouragement.

Annaquilts 02-21-2011 03:41 AM

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Here is the finnished wedding quilt. 10x10 feet It machine washed and mahine dried up beautifully. The bride and groom loved it and I am so happy to go on to a smaller project. Thank you all for your input and encouragement. It was a life line and of tremendous help.

The quilt is not laying all the way flat in the picture but in real life it is. Yeahhh!
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Mostly Judie Rothermel Civil War tribute fabrics.
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Free motion quilting done on a Janome 6500.
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JulieR 02-21-2011 05:12 AM

It's beautiful! You did an amazing job. I'm so glad nesting worked out for you - now you know you can do pretty much anything on that machine :)

sidmona 02-21-2011 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by Shelbie
A king sized quilt will go through a Janome 6500. I have now done three King sized quilts on my Janome 6500. After my quilt is basted-pinned securely, I stitch down the lengthwise centre (this is the hardest of all) and then stitch through the centre width-wise. My quilt is then divided in four and I quilt one quadrant at a time. I am not an expert machine quilter by any means but was able to machine quilt these big quilts quite satisfactorily. It helps to have extra table space around your machine to hold the weight of your quilt. My machine is in a cabinet, so I pull it out from the wall and put a fold up table from Costco behind it for extra support. I don't really roll my quilt but "puddle" or bunch it up a little to get where I want to quilt. By twisting and turning, eventually your quilt will get done.

I agree with Shelbie. Anchor it through the middle and work in quadrants. Bunch or squish it as you go and before you know it you will be done. I've done several king size quilts this way on my Juki and they turned out well.


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