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dray965 06-10-2014 08:08 AM

Need help on figuring out a square
 
I've been trying to figure this square out all morning with no luck. I'm hoping that maybe some of you would know how.

Here is the link to the quilt: http://www.quiltmag.com/magazine/qui...nejuly13/echo/

It appears to be a rectangle. But when I try to put 5 strips in the middle with 2 white sections on each side, mine never comes out right. Usually one of the white sections is off.

Any guess as to the rectangle width/length and strip size? That would be a start. I'm mathematically very challenged or else I would have already figured it out. HELP!!!!!

Nammie to 7 06-10-2014 08:13 AM

That certainly looks like an interesting design. I would be totally challenged unless I had written instructions! Guess that is why I buy the magazines or patterns.

bearisgray 06-10-2014 08:20 AM

I think the center square is seamed and made of four white triangles.

I think the strips are pieced with five 1.5 inch colored strips and one 3.5 inch white strips -

Then the pieced lengths are cut at 45 degree angles.

nativetexan 06-10-2014 09:02 AM

I agree with bearisgray! have fun.

Jingle 06-10-2014 09:56 AM

I don't think it would be for a newbie, unless you have instructions with pictures. I have been quilting for 47-48 years and I would not try it without instructions and pictures.
Good luck.

LynnVT 06-10-2014 10:21 AM

I don't understand why the directions aren't there, as it says you can download patterns from the issue. I agree with Jingle - too complex to figure out, and I usually do without patterns.

zozee 06-10-2014 10:35 AM

Looks like fun for people who like math and love puzzles.I fall into the "just buy the pattern" group on this one--and normally am not a pattern girl. Sometimes paying for someone else's time to have done the math for me is worth every penny.

Auntie V 06-10-2014 10:40 AM

Look at it as making eight long strips not blocks. Then add a white border.

Hulalulu 06-10-2014 10:46 AM

When you access the web link above, then click on Bev G.'s name -- will bring up a free download. I didn't download it yet, but it sure is tempting!

dray965 06-10-2014 10:48 AM

Apologies!!! I should have said that I don't know if the magazine is still available. Email going to company to see. AND I searched and searched for the pattern via google with no luck.

I have EQ7 and thought I'd try my hand at drawing the block...but wasn't smart enough :(

dray965 06-10-2014 10:58 AM

I did click on Bev's name. All it brings up are pics of 3 of her quilts. Clicking on ECHO pic will only take you back to the magazine picture. No download :(.

QuiltnNan 06-10-2014 12:41 PM

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i designed it in EQ5 at 50x66 inches
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and here is the rotary cutting for one block... half of the blocks will have to be flipped/cut in the opposite direction

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the picture of the block above is not an actual representation of the block

ManiacQuilter2 06-10-2014 01:08 PM

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There is a copy of the magazine for sale on eBay. What I see is something that could easily be done paper piecing. I think that Bearisgrey is correct. The blocks are rectangles with triangles on both ends. This block I drew 6" x 12". This is what I came up with using EQ5. If you are new to quilting or a beginner, I would certainly suggest you draw the block out and make it doing paper piecing. Your blocks may be more accurate.

QuiltnNan 06-10-2014 01:14 PM

maniac... i had first drawn it with 4 stripes. then i realized the orig quilt has 5 stripes... so i redrew it. my block is 6x16

Sewnoma 06-10-2014 01:23 PM

I'm seeing repetition in those stacks of strips on the original, I think it's at least partially strip-pieced.

Onebyone 06-10-2014 01:40 PM

I saw this same quilt yesterday or today either in my email or on Facebook.:p I remember thinking it was something to check into but forgot. I'll try to find it, I'm sure it was a pattern link to buy the pattern I just didn't click to find out where.

Onebyone 06-10-2014 02:02 PM

Found it on Facebook, a post from yesterday from 24 Blocks website. I haven't checked that website but I had a subscription to Quilts and I found the magazine in my bookshelf. :):)

charsuewilson 06-10-2014 02:53 PM

It looks to me as if there are 5 strips of dark color and 3 strips of light color (or one strip equivalent to the sewn together width of 3 light strips)

Bearisgray says "I think the strips are pieced with five 1.5 inch colored strips and one 3.5 inch white strips"

I come up with the same thing, assuming the dark strips are 1.5".

krafty14 06-10-2014 03:14 PM

I think 5 1.5" WOF strips are sewn together to form a strata. Another strip, maybe 3.5" WOF is sewn to the top and bottom. Then the blocks are cut from the strata at a 45* angle. The top and bottom is then squared off to make the rectangular block. Then another strata is cut in the opposite direction. Clear as mud??? Ann

bearisgray 06-10-2014 03:43 PM

After playing with this a bit more -

QuiltnNan says that she came up with a "finished unit" size of 16 x 6. I also came up with that. I haven't figured out how wide to cut the strips yet.

krafty14 suggests that the five narrow strips are pieced and then cut at 45 degree angles and a white triangle is sewn on each end. I think that makes sense.

If the rectanglular unit finishes at 6 x 16, I think the narrow strips are cut at (square root of 2 + 1/2 inch)
The square root of 2 is 1.414 and then add another 0.5 inch - that is 1.914 inches - so if one cuts a "scant" two inch strip, that would come out quite close.

The white strips are triangles that need to finish at 6 inches on their short sides. So - depending on your feelings about grain lines - you could cut squares at 6-7/8 inches and cut them on the diagonal -

Or cut a strip (square root of 72 + 1/2 inch)
8.48 + 0.5 inch = 8.98 inches -> I would cut strips 9 inches wide

dray965 06-10-2014 05:15 PM

Oh wow...all of you have been of tremendous help. I finally was able to manage it. No....I didn't figure it out, stood on the shoulders of all of you that rallied to help me. I so LOVE this group and quilter...well what can I say about quilters...I've never met one that didn't rally around to help a fellow quilter that needed it.

Thank you so much :)

On a side note, I found that Bev is on FB and sent her a personal PM asking if the quilt was for sale independently from the magazine and how to buy if it is. Thanks for the tip on finding it on eBay as well. If I don't hear from Bev I will try eBay. I know this quilt is copyrighted and want to pay for it. BUT...I was so intrigued by the 'how to' that I couldn't resist.

Again, thanks to all of you.
Dray

bearisgray 06-10-2014 06:17 PM

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Well - I think I have figured out the unit.

It does seem to be a 3 unit x 8 unit block.

If I use 6-3/8 x 17 inch finished unit, I can come up with cutting and assembly directions. (One unit = 2-1/8 inches)

Cut five strips 2 inches wide.
Sew them together with 1/4 inch seam.
Press.
Cut the strip at a 45 degree angle.
Make the cuts at 9-7/8 inch intervals .(I am reasonably sure the exact number is 9-3/4 inches, but it's easier to trim down a bit than to add a bit)

The triangles at the ends can be cut from 7-1/4 inch squares, but I would cut them 7-3/8 inches.
Sew a triangle at each end of the five-strip unit.

I apologize for the messy drawing - I just did not want to mess another piece of paper!

evelyn5269 06-10-2014 06:30 PM

Renee Owens Wouldn't be hard to guess how to make this. It is very straight forward. There are brown and multi-colored strips and they each look like they are 2.5" wide and 7.5" long finished. The field color (FC) strips are 7.5" long and the width of three of the colored strips (which is 7.5"). Therefore, using 1/4" seam, piece LONG 3" wide colored strips of material AND LONG 8" wide FC strips of material to make the following pattern (1FC: 5 Colored: 1 FC: 5 colored: 1 FC); and then cut across these at 45° angle so that when this step is finished the multi-colored pieced strip will be 8" wide and half the length of the quilt and have a slanted striped pattern like the picture; make 8. Then sew and cut 8 more at a 45° angle in the OPPOSITE direction. (You will have 16 altogether.) Finally, take one of each of the opposite direction half length pieced strips, sew the two of them right sides together at the ends straight across the two pieces to make a full length pieced strip and trim off extra at seam allowance. Do this 7 more times. (You will now have 8 full length pieced strips.) Arrange them in the pattern above and then sew all the full length strips together. The rest is easy.

This is what I found on facebook along with the picture from 24 blocks. I would of course have to buy the pattern for me to work on it but can't find where to get it. I just did a copy and paste so don't know if it is helpful to you or not

GailG 06-10-2014 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by dray965 (Post 6753127)
I did click on Bev's name. All it brings up are pics of 3 of her quilts. Clicking on ECHO pic will only take you back to the magazine picture. No download :(.

I got all the way to INSTALL and then it went back and started again.

bearisgray 06-10-2014 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by evelyn5269 (Post 6753658)
Renee Owens Wouldn't be hard to guess how to make this. It is very straight forward. There are brown and multi-colored strips and they each look like they are 2.5" wide and 7.5" long finished. The field color (FC) strips are 7.5" long and the width of three of the colored strips (which is 7.5"). Therefore, using 1/4" seam, piece LONG 3" wide colored strips of material AND LONG 8" wide FC strips of material to make the following pattern (1FC: 5 Colored: 1 FC: 5 colored: 1 FC); and then cut across these at 45° angle so that when this step is finished the multi-colored pieced strip will be 8" wide and half the length of the quilt and have a slanted striped pattern like the picture; make 8. Then sew and cut 8 more at a 45° angle in the OPPOSITE direction. (You will have 16 altogether.) Finally, take one of each of the opposite direction half length pieced strips, sew the two of them right sides together at the ends straight across the two pieces to make a full length pieced strip and trim off extra at seam allowance. Do this 7 more times. (You will now have 8 full length pieced strips.) Arrange them in the pattern above and then sew all the full length strips together. The rest is easy.

This is what I found on facebook along with the picture from 24 blocks. I would of course have to buy the pattern for me to work on it but can't find where to get it. I just did a copy and paste so don't know if it is helpful to you or not

Can you post an illustration of what you mean?

evelyn5269 06-10-2014 07:51 PM

I just copied and pasted this from the facebook post. Was just hoping it might help. Renee Owens is the one who posted these directions. If anyone finds the actual pattern that I can purchase please PM me.
Thanks
Evelyn

jclinganrey 06-10-2014 08:53 PM

Sew your 5 strips together into a strip set. Sub-cut into 6 inch sets (that's what it looks like to me). Cut at a 60 degree angle. Add the background (white) - I would cut a 6 1/2" x 3 inch piece then trim to whatever you decide the size should be, probably 6 1/2" x 8 1/2"??? Does that help??

Jane

IraJane 06-11-2014 03:17 AM

Could it be strips sewn together and then cut on the angle?

Geri B 06-11-2014 04:19 AM

If you cannot buy the pattern from original designer....go to mag website and see if you can buy back issue of mag. I have that mag somewhere in my mountain of mags and I too admired it and marked it as a " try"' but haven't yet...but thanks for reminding me......

Onebyone 06-11-2014 06:45 AM

It's made like the French Braid but only using one direction of strips per panel not two.

bearisgray 06-11-2014 07:43 AM

Using this picture as a guide

http://www.quiltmag.com/magazine/qui...nejuly13/echo/

There are eight different combinations of fabrics in the strip sets.
Each color group is cut the same direction.

However, in some of the sets, the order from top to bottom is ABCDE, and the others with the same fabrics, the order is EDCBA.

This would be a great quilt for a scrappy.

cin72 06-11-2014 08:23 AM

I agree, with bearisgray. I think it is 5 colored pieces sewn together with a white piece sewn on the ends. So lets say you used 2" pieces of colored fabric then you may need 2 6" pieces of white. on the ends. After you have sewn all the pieces together, I think I would then place my fabric on a cutting mat on the 45 degree lines and place my ruler on the top where the white and color match leaving a 1/4 seam allowance and cut straight across so you have a 45 degree angle of white fabric. Then keep on cutting until you have enough rectangles. Then put them together in the pattern you wish. It looks like to me there are 8 rows with 4 blocks in each row. Just make sure your edges match.

I hope this is right but that is what it looks like to me. Strip quilting.
cin72

bearisgray 06-11-2014 09:03 AM

Like many things, there is probably more than one way to get the result one wants.

I am now going to go downstairs and see if my diagram "works."

farmquilter 06-11-2014 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Jingle (Post 6753036)
I don't think it would be for a newbie, unless you have instructions with pictures. I have been quilting for 47-48 years and I would not try it without instructions and pictures.
Good luck.

Jingle--you started quilting as a baby *Ü*, good advice about needing good instructions.

Kat2 06-11-2014 01:11 PM

It looks like the quilt is made in strip consisting of starting off with a triangle of white fabric at the center of each strip. You can start off making strip sets (colored fabric) and cut the strips on a 45 degree angle by the width of the strip (tilt your head sideways and you should see a triangle). Then add a strip of the wider white strip and so on. It is an interesting quilt. The construction of each strip starts with the white triangle in the center of each strip and then the colored strip sent is added on each side of the triangle and so on.

bearisgray 06-11-2014 03:25 PM

When I looked at the reference, I thought it looked like there were seam lines between the white triangles.

matraina 06-11-2014 03:47 PM

Love the quilt pattern but can't help with the directions.

one-and-only 06-11-2014 04:44 PM

I know nothing about the math part. Being of simple mind. I am wondering since it was Hoffman fabrics that were used. Do you suppose it was made with their pre cuts? Very little to no cutting. Bali pops and a turnover, maybe? Just and idea.

sewbeadit 06-11-2014 05:15 PM

You all are so clever!

maviskw 06-12-2014 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by IraJane (Post 6753863)
Could it be strips sewn together and then cut on the angle?

I think this is the most economical use of fabric, and also the easiest way to construct this. Sew 5 WOF strips together. Sub-cut at the correct angle, and add the white triangles where needed.


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