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onaemtnest 10-22-2019 10:49 AM

Needing Help Finding A Quilt Pattern
 
I just received the new Keepsake Quilting Catalog and there is a kit far out of my reach to purchase. Besides I have the perfect fabric in my stash to make this quilt. I called Keepsake Quilting and the pattern is only available in the kit. I've checked Wilmington Prints to see if it was a free pattern could not find. The customer service representative assured me it was only available in the kit.

I'm wondering if anyone here might recognize the pattern? I'm willing to pay for the pattern. I'm absolutely not creative enough to chart it out on graph paper and not savvy enough to use EQ software. I'd be willing to pay someone to do that for me. I'm so wanting to make this quilt!!!!

Here is the link to the Keepsake Quilting kit. https://www.keepsakequilting.com/Bot...mington-Prints

Judith1005 10-22-2019 11:03 AM

That is a beautiful pattern. I love the fabrics also. But, I too have fabric at home that would work. I don't know anywhere you can purchase the pattern. But, maybe if you wait a bit for the kits and fabric to sell out, they may offer the pattern then.

I could probably figure out the center of the quilt myself. But, I would definitely have a problem with the on point settings and figuring out the dimensions.

Thanks for sharing though. I really like the pattern.

cashs_mom 10-22-2019 11:39 AM

Try eBay. A quick search came up with a couple listings for the fabric. Some offered the pattern free with a fabric purchase.

QuiltingLawyer 10-22-2019 11:39 AM

I think it's just a square in square and not on point for the main part. You would do the 4 flying geese and then add strips to each side to make it square then add the triangles like you would with a square in square. Depending on how large you want the whole thing would be what would determine how big your blocks are and how small you want the flying geese to be.

Iceblossom 10-22-2019 11:39 AM

It looks like it would be pretty easy to draw up, start with an 18" block x 4 = 72 plus a 6" border (4 inch pieced and 2 inch plain) for 84x84.

The flying geese unit would be the same 4" as in the border. That is, each geese unit is 2" x 4". Add the 2" strips, and then you need a 9.5 square cut in half along the diagonal for the corners. I'd probably cut at 10" and trim down.

Correction made for setting triangles, am drawing up the block but having some technical difficulties, should be able to post diagram ina couple.

Iceblossom 10-22-2019 12:40 PM

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Well, that was a bit of a surprise, as I drafted it out it is much happier as 17" blocks with a 6" flying geese unit. The sashing would be 3" instead of two and it should finish out at pretty much the correct size....

For 5 minutes of work it's what you get!

Edit: for a similar look and less work, make the 12" (finished) flying geese block (6" strip plus 3" frames), and alternate with solid 12" squares (finished, 12.5" cut). In that case you would set diagonally. As drawn it is a straight set.

Please note: Measurements shown on the block are finished sizes, not cut!

Barb in Louisiana 10-22-2019 06:21 PM

Great job Iceblossom figuring out the easy way to do this quilt.

Iceblossom 10-22-2019 07:45 PM

Sometimes it's an advantage to have started when I did (before rotary cutters) and in a small town with a couple of old quilt books in the library :) Back then pretty much all we had were block line drawings with no setting, cutting or other directions.

For a planned quilt (as opposed to a scrappy quilt) notice in putting the blocks together that is does matter which corners get which colors. The example uses dark and light prints. The blocks themselves are all the same and twist to form the secondary patterns. I would tell myself that the geese point the way and would probably put the light fabric on those ends but so long as you are consistent it doesn't really matter -- but the pattern designer balanced the dark backgrounds of the geese with the dark fabrics.

renda 10-23-2019 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by Iceblossom (Post 8316938)
Well, that was a bit of a surprise, as I drafted it out it is much happier as 17" blocks with a 6" flying geese unit. The sashing would be 3" instead of two and it should finish out at pretty much the correct size....

For 5 minutes of work it's what you get!

Edit: for a similar look and less work, make the 12" (finished) flying geese block (6" strip plus 3" frames), and alternate with solid 12" squares (finished, 12.5" cut). In that case you would set diagonally. As drawn it is a straight set.

Please note: Measurements shown on the block are finished sizes, not cut!

Thanks - great job!!!

onaemtnest 10-23-2019 04:30 AM

OMGoodness Iceblossom, Thank-you, thank-you for your efforts on my behalf!!!! I will add your diagram to the picture I saved from the site. I'm well on my way to making a test block thank you so very much.

Iceblossom 10-23-2019 04:34 AM

Happy to do it! As I say, my favorite parts of quilting are the three P's: Planning, Playing (with fabric), and Piecing

Drafting out stuff is on my fun list :) Let me know if you need any additional help -- I'm thinking I have a selection of Cherry fabrics that this might work well for but I'll be making it as a smaller rectangular size.

onaemtnest 10-23-2019 04:44 AM

Just a grateful note to all who answered my post, I so appreciate all of your help and time in answering offering suggestions! Great group of people on this board always willing to give of your time and advice! Thank-you to each and every one of you!

Snooze2978 10-23-2019 04:49 AM

When I see a pattern I like I try to copy it using EQ8. Seems its flying geese and HST mostly, just have to figure out the block sizes mostly. Don't know if this imfringement on the copywrite laws but if I make it a different size or change something so its not exactly like it I wouldn't think it would be. I know we have to be sure about things like that.

Iceblossom 10-23-2019 04:53 AM

An additional note on doing it with whole alternate squares and flying geese blocks and setting on the diagonal, if you use the same units as I showed/measured out, the border will still work the same mathematically. Or, you could complicate things and make Quarter-Square blocks for the alternate blocks, either of my ways is easier.

Keep in mind when cutting the setting triangles that you can't just slice the 12.5 raw block in half, it will be too short! For the setting triangles easiest thing is to make them 1" larger than the block size and either trim down to the seam allowance or allow the design to float.

Edit: I am always concerned about copyright. A block image is not copyrightable. You can take credit for a technique or whatever, but a log cabin block or whatever block is open to all. Drawing out a block like this is fair use -- especially for a "free" pattern but even if not. As I'm mentioning in my post there are various ways to construct this project. If I were to sell this as my own design, there would be issues, or if I took credit, or if I plagiarized their directions. I think the original designer did a nice job with some of the subtle things like I mentioned balancing the dark geese backgrounds with the large dark triangles. They deserve full credit for inspiration.

greaterexp 10-23-2019 05:18 AM

https://bearcreekquiltingcompany.com...quilt-pattern/

Here it is for free.

Iceblossom 10-23-2019 05:38 AM

More clarifications too late to edit.

For the setting triangles, I would cut blocks that were 13.5" and slice along the diagonal. That will leave the outer edge as bias but you will soon be stabilizing it with the border sashing. You can also cut the setting triangles so the long edge is straight of grain, but I'd do it my way :p

If I entered it in a show with similar fabrics, I would list it as "Inspired by Botanical Oasis designed by Anne Rowan".

I had some fabrics pulled out as a potential project, I think this idea will work for them but it will be a very different looking quilt. I have the fabric in the wash as we speak... My inner unit will be based on a 2x4" flying geese unit so instead of drawn out with a 12" center I will have an 8" center, my color choices and placement will be much more graphic, and I will probably be using squares and a diagonal set instead of the triangle technique. Additionally, I would make the top as a rectangle and not a square as designed. It will be for donation, but if I showed it, I would say "Based on Botanical Oasis designed by Anne Rowan" and maybe even break it down slightly further as "Block Based On..."

Rhonda K 10-23-2019 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Iceblossom (Post 8317249)
More clarifications too late to edit.

For the setting triangles, I would cut blocks that were 13.5" and slice along the diagonal. That will leave the outer edge as bias but you will soon be stabilizing it with the border sashing. You can also cut the setting triangles so the long edge is straight of grain, but I'd do it my way :p

Question about the setting triangles and bias edges. Would this work?

Draw a diagonal line across the square (for the setting triangle). Stitch 1/4 inch on each side and then cut on the drawn line. This would stay stitch that bias edge.

Those are pretty patterns.

Iceblossom 10-23-2019 07:33 AM

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One more edit first: The discussion for setting triangles only happens if you are setting diagonally and with whole alternate squares. If you do the block as designed with the triangles as part of the block, you don't have to read any further! It is a straight horizontal setting and is the easiest way. The fabric I want to use is rather large and I think would work better as a whole alternate square.

Sure, Rhonda, stay stitching is one technique and there are many ways to deal with bias edges. If you use unwashed fabric or starch, that's usually enough to stabilize it but these are rather large lengths. I'd do ok with my crisp ironing (no starch) and letting the machine do the work but some people might warp it a bit just due to the length.

If I wanted the edges straight of grain, I'd cut out that 13.5" block -- I use parchment paper for stuff like this (what you see in the picture), clear tape is better but I have the blue tape handy in my sewing kit. I get the paper at the dollar store for a 1 foot x 25 x roll and use it for many quilting related things!

Anyway, make a 13.5" square (or maybe you have a large enough ruler, I have one but I don't think most quilters do) out of paper taped together and slice it in half along the diagonal. I could look up the math of this, but most of the time I just use paper. That triangle is now your cutting guide, you'd cut a strip the height of that cut piece, and placing the long edge of the triangle on the straight of grain, I think you'd get a total of 5 pieces, 3 on the start (bottom or top) and the 2 in the middle, plus left over trims.

There are sites/calculations on how big a square to cut into an X too -- but these are big and I don't think would cut well without leaving lots of scraps/extra yardage.

If you have a large enough ruler (I have a 16" square) you can mark the 13.5" line with tape, like I did here for this project where I needed a 7.5" cut and the closest ruler was 8.5". I always use the top of the tape as my line, sometimes I need to put in an extra mark on which way is the correct way!

Irishrose2 10-23-2019 07:38 AM

Excellent job deciphering the pattern, Iceblossom. It's a pretty quilt.

Iceblossom 10-23-2019 08:01 AM

Once again, I got messed up on my math. Ok, so when you cut that 13.5" block on the diagonal, the diagonal is roughly 1.5 times the straight side. So you might only get 3 per width of fabric.

LOL really, doing it as originally designed is looking better all the time.

Jerseyrayne 10-24-2019 03:10 AM

That is made with the Wild Flying Geese block, also known as the Rambler block. You can find the free block on the internet. This one: http://www.quilterscache.com/W/WildGooseChaseBlock.html, https://www.freequilt.com/rambler-quilt.html, https://nancycabotsewalong.blogspot....ilt-block.html There are others but you have to do a search. Good Luck

Rose_P 10-24-2019 04:18 AM

Jerseyrayne, Sorry, but that isn't quite the same. It's very similar and solves all the problems about planning the layout and quantities of fabric to use. Personally, I like the Quilter's Cache Wild Goose Chase better than the Keepsake one with the side bars next to each goose strip. So thanks for posting it!

Iceblossom 10-24-2019 04:39 AM

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Here's the block I did up with the fabric collection I have. I made it as an 8" center square instead of the 12" as shown. It takes one 2.5" WoF per block to make both the geese and the bars as I did here. I folded the squares to make more of the block shape, but I would use alternate squares.

forgot this part: I made the geese by the method of taking a rectangle (in my case 2.5 x 4.5) for the geese, and two squares (2.5) for the sides, draw on the diagonal of the square and cut off the excess. I did chop off one of my points. What can I say, it happens and I was tired!

The fabrics aren't working so well on this scale, they'd do better in the 12". They all have cherries in them, you don't really get to see them in the setting triangles around the geese. The large scale cherry print is directional so I have to be aware of that. The real constraint is that I don't have enough of the red pin dot to make the 24 blocks I would want to make -- but I have other red dots and am thinking about "why not" and add a bit of scrappy to a planned quilt. Or maybe just wait for another project for these fabrics :)

Edit: as I look at the picture, I'm thinking maybe replace the side bars with white? that would probably make a really nice secondary pattern like in the original and leave me with enough red...

Emma S 10-24-2019 06:39 AM

Judith, I found an online chart that gives you all the dimensions of the insets for on point. If you Google It I’m sure it will come up. I’ve used it for years and it always works.

peaceandjoy 10-24-2019 08:33 AM

Iceblossom is right. It's not set on point (if you click on the link then hover over the picture, individual blocks show up clearly, 4 (huge) blocks across, 1 plain inner border and one pieced outer border.

Blocks/pieces are so large, it shouldn't really be difficult at all to follow Iceblossom's pattern. Hope you will show us what you come up with!

peaceandjoy 10-24-2019 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Iceblossom (Post 8317656)
Edit: as I look at the picture, I'm thinking maybe replace the side bars with white? that would probably make a really nice secondary pattern like in the original and leave me with enough red...

I like that idea. Then you could use the red for the narrow inner border.

tuckyquilter 10-24-2019 10:07 AM

Warm Wishes
 
can do this quilt without a pattern. Really you can.
1. It's basically a Warm Wishes Pattern, set On Point.

2. The Center row on the rail would be your Flying Geese. (I'd make them first and cut the rest to match whatever size you make them) Or follow this pattern replacing the center row of the rail with the flying geese.

https://www.quiltingcompany.com/free...y-warm-wishes/

You can download the Pattern too.

Iceblossom 10-24-2019 10:33 AM

Well, test block 3 will be made tonight or tomorrow (block 1 was a dud and not shown). Had to go out and get some spray baste and found a great piece of white with tiny red dot fabric and it was on sale even. The scatter is much larger than any of the other dots but the dot size is about the same and it is the right shade of red or close enough. I think I will be very happy with the results, especially when I make 4 blocks. If I'm not happy I'll stop the project at that point and still have enough of most of them to do something else.

It's in the washer now, and the top is spray basted. It's a good day!

Iceblossom 10-25-2019 07:30 AM

I'm going ahead an making this as my next project. I have other things going on but in a day or two I'll post a picture.

I think proper attribution is a big topic of discussion and so I think I will continue to post my progress in here. Although I definitely was inspired by drafting out that pattern, I'm very comfortable with this being "my" quilt. I'm changing the triangles to squares. I'm using very different fabrics/colors. I've changed the scale from a center of 12" to 8". I've changed the layout from a square to a rectangle.

I think if you showed the original next to mine, only maybe 5-10 people out of 100 would see instantly that they were the "same" and that would mostly be if I used the same border treatment with the pieced units in the corners that really makes this top sparkle to me.

And then there are the construction techniques to consider. In addition to making it with alternate squares because of the large scale of the cherry print, I'm making the geese units by the rectangle/two squares method. Other people make four at a time or use rulers or other ways to do it. I measured and cut out the red pin dot today, I had just enough to make all 24 blocks I want, plus 4 extra to use in the border, so I can at least do two corners in the border. Had about a 1" strip left! But I think I have another piece of this exact shade in my 6.5" strip box.

Edit: Lately I've been thinking in terms of tag lines or t-shirt slogans. Here's one that applies: The quit we make depends on the fabric we have!

Jordan 10-25-2019 11:26 AM

That is a beautiful quilt and it looks easy enough to draw out - or - you could contact Wilmington fabrics directly and they may sell you the pattern. Just read the other comments and I think you have good help with this pattern. Good luck and that is going to be a beautiful quilt.

Iceblossom 11-08-2019 07:58 AM

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Boy, life has been handing me a whole lot of challenges and obstacles but here and there I've been working away at this project. I've made some blocks to show but I have a lot of the goose units to still make.

One thing I looked at early on was to point the geese to the middle, that is two each going from wide at the edges to the center point. Rather liked that but decided to go with more movement. There are still a couple of options I have in terms of turning the blocks, but I think this was what the original design used (haven't been back to check).

I'm using 8" blocks with alternate blocks, it is easier to do it with the triangles on the corners, but that cherry print is just too big. As I've drawn it out with a 6" border, it will finish about 57x80". I do have electric quilt but the computer is not on the network and I can't print from there, so also included is my working diagram (what I use for a pattern) to show the layout.

Edit: looking at my layout and my diagram looks like I should have the checkered corners (what I call white) and not the cherry. I've used up all of the red pin dots for the geese (I can still make 4 more sets to use in the border) as well as all of the black background for them. I have plenty of the white with red dot, cherry, and checkered for the border and maybe enough cherry for the back even but I haven't decided exactly what I'm doing yet. An extra couple of inches in the border would make this a nice twin size.

Claire123 11-09-2019 02:45 AM

I absolutely think you can make this. I'd begin by making the flying geese, the pattern could have them as big as 3x6, but you could go smaller, 2x4. When you have 4 stitched together and have added sashing, put them on a design wall and you are on your way.

Just Me... 11-09-2019 05:41 AM

There are many similar patterns available online. This is one similar: https://imageresize.checkerdist.com/...450&h=450&q=70

Iceblossom 11-28-2019 09:56 AM

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Sorry for the length of time getting back to this, I thought it would be a couple of days and not the better part of a month. I'm staying home today for Thanksgiving and intend to finish this top, or at least get it into rows today so I can start the Bonnie Hunter mystery tomorrow.

I've made all my geese units but only about half my blocks because I wanted to show some different layout options. Again, I think the issues of design and attribution are important to quilters but at the same time, it's why we have lawyers because different people think differently or seize on different aspects. For me, this was "my" quilt as soon as I choose my fabric. Plus, again, I've changed the size and the construction methods. But there are so many options we have as quilters to change things around even using the same fabrics and units.

Picture one is the layout I'll be using, it is also the designer's layout. Notice how the geese radiate out from the white blocks in the top rows.

Picture two is circling the geese around the block for a different type of energy.

Picture 3 shows more of what I would have designed if I started with just these fabrics. That center square is still made of the geese units, but I probably probably would reinforce the interconnecting design by using the cherry blossom print as a square with the red pin dot as the small triangles. The large and smaller black background prints would work nicely together

Picture 4 shows another movement option, more then 3 and less than 1 or 2...

RedGarnet222 11-28-2019 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Judith1005 (Post 8316886)
That is a beautiful pattern. I love the fabrics also. But, I too have fabric at home that would work. I don't know anywhere you can purchase the pattern. But, maybe if you wait a bit for the kits and fabric to sell out, they may offer the pattern then.

I could probably figure out the center of the quilt myself. But, I would definitely have a problem with the on point settings and figuring out the dimensions.

Thanks for sharing though. I really like the pattern.

Judith,
Elenore burns has a triangle setting ruler for sale that is great! I always had a problem too until I bought this one ruler that makes it easy.
I really love the colors in this quilt. So soft and girly.

Judith1005 11-28-2019 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Iceblossom (Post 8333828)
Sorry for the length of time getting back to this, I thought it would be a couple of days and not the better part of a month. I'm staying home today for Thanksgiving and intend to finish this top, or at least get it into rows today so I can start the Bonnie Hunter mystery tomorrow.

I've made all my geese units but only about half my blocks because I wanted to show some different layout options. Again, I think the issues of design and attribution are important to quilters but at the same time, it's why we have lawyers because different people think differently or seize on different aspects. For me, this was "my" quilt as soon as I choose my fabric. Plus, again, I've changed the size and the construction methods. But there are so many options we have as quilters to change things around even using the same fabrics and units.

Picture one is the layout I'll be using, it is also the designer's layout. Notice how the geese radiate out from the white blocks in the top rows.

Picture two is circling the geese around the block for a different type of energy.

Picture 3 shows more of what I would have designed if I started with just these fabrics. That center square is still made of the geese units, but I probably probably would reinforce the interconnecting design by using the cherry blossom print as a square with the red pin dot as the small triangles. The large and smaller black background prints would work nicely together

Picture 4 shows another movement option, more then 3 and less than 1 or 2...

Omg, so cute! This would make an awesome picnic quilt. Thank you for sharing the "Math". I think I love yours more!!

Rhonda K 11-28-2019 11:10 AM

Thanks for the update!

That's a lot of flying geese there! You are making progress and it's coming together for you. Love the fabrics---fun and cheerful. The different options with the layout are interesting. I like the one that you chose the best.

cgsumter 11-29-2019 05:50 AM

I like picture 2, where the white side bars go against the checkerboard fabric and the geese emerge from the darker print.

Iceblossom 12-07-2019 01:11 PM

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Swing and a miss! I am not happy and after 3 days of being at this step not finishing this, I'm going to take it apart.

I got all caught up on moving those wild goose units around and concentrated on the small details and missed a really big (to me) design element. I even mentioned it earlier in this thread, that I liked how the original designer balanced out the dark fabrics.

I've tried to convince myself that it's fine as it is, only it isn't... The white with red polka dots needs to frame the black large scale cherry print, not the gingham. I don't like how the different blacks of the cherry blossom print behind the goose unit hits the black of the large cherry print. I can keep the pattern of the geese I want, it's subtle but it's a figure 8/infinity symbol/hug, I just have to swap out the cherry and gingham fabrics.

bearisgray 12-07-2019 02:08 PM

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Each unit seems to draw out on a 4 x 4 grid.

If I was making it, I would make 12 inch (finished size) blocks - the diagonal of a 12 inch block is approximately 17 inches - set them on point -

I would leave each large square as a large square - enough triangles with the flying geese units -

I would construct the corner units - then decide how much of a filler strip is needed to make it look okay to my eyes.

As far as I could tell (measuring the units on my computer screen) the border flying geese seem to be the same size as the flying geese in the body of the quilt.


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