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Flying_V_Goddess 03-14-2008 09:35 PM

I figured out what quilt I want to do for my very artistic, future tattoo artist friend, Deni. For those of you who haven't read the other post, she's pregnat and her due date is a week before her birthday. She's kind of worried that she's just going to get baby stuff for her birthday. So I want to do something extra special for her birthday in the form of a quilt.

I finally decided that I want to do the Tsunami quilt in black and dark red.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...lackblood2.png

I want to do the red in batik and the black in true solid---I think it'll give it kind of an artsy, stained glass appeal to it. And I got this quilt down to a science now so I got all my homework for it done and there's not a whole lot of pre-planning to do. But I still have a few questions.

1. What is a good website that sells batik fabric?

2. My information on batik is limited so any tips or suggestions on it would help.

3. Do you think I should add a thick, solid black border? If I decide to add one should I go with a red binding like I have in the picture or a black binding to blend in with the border?

4. I'm not sure how big to make this. I want to make it big enough so if she wanted to put it on her bed she could, but I don't know how big her bed is. I'm almost positive its not a Queen. I know its big enough to fit two people, shoulder to shoulder. Got any idea on how big her bed is?

Flying_V_Goddess 03-14-2008 09:42 PM

Oh, here's an updated layout of the quilt plus a key for anyone who was interested in this quilt. I changed about 14 blocks, eliminating 56 unnessicary pieces. Doesn't change the design at all, just makes less work. :) And I purposely made the blocks in the key grey so you could see the layuot of the blocks in case anyone was going "Hey, I thought she was going for black, not grey".

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...Pinwheel-2.png

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...TsunamiKEy.png

amma 03-14-2008 09:55 PM

Fabric Depot is having a big sale on batiks right now

https://www.fabricdepot.com/index.php?page=CatalogPage&pageid=16

They also have Kona fabric pretty reasonably priced if you get it in 6 yard pieces. I have bought this before and it is good quality.

https://www.fabricdepot.com/index.php?page=ProductPage&pageid=105218

vicki reno 03-15-2008 01:41 AM

Girl, you are a basket full of talent. I could never in a million years do soemthing like this! Sounds like they have a doulble bed. Most magazines and lots of websites can give you the size you want--I don't ave it in my head, but its not hard to find out. Re: border--do it just like your sketch--I love it!

ccbear66 03-15-2008 07:00 AM

I copied this from a web site
http://www.sylviasquiltdepot.com/sch...e.htm#mattress
GOT IT COVERED?
Don't know how big to make your quilt?
Remember to add 12-14" on each side (and the foot) for the drop and 14" at
the head if you want it to tuck under a pillow.

Mattress Size Quilt Size (These are all measurements for a 16" drop)
Receiving N/A 36" X 45" or 45" X 45"
Crib 23" X 46"
Lap Quilt N/A Between 52" and 68" wide. 52" to 78" in length.
Twin 39" X 75" Between 64" and 72" wide. 86" to 96" in length.
Full 54" X 75" Between 70" and 88 wide. 86" to 100" in length.
Queen 60" X 80" Between 88" and 99" wide. 94" to 108" in length.
King 76" X 80" Between 94" and 108" wide. 94" to 108" in length.

Measurements are approximate.

Quilt Size Amount of Backing Needed
Twin 71" x 101" 6 yards
Full 86" x 101" 7.5 yards
Queen 92" x 106" 8.25 yards
King 108" x 106" 9.25 yards

2 Doods 03-15-2008 07:21 AM

IMHO on the size-If you want it to go on a bed (possibly) I would go with a queen. Even if she has a double bed now, if they ever up-size to a queen it would still fit nicely. I have a queen/king size quilt on a king bed and it is a bit small. Wish the quilt was larger. Our guest bed is a queen and it fits 2 people shoulder to shoulder. Seems pretty tight after having a king! :wink:

Love the plan you have! Hope you will post pictures! :lol:

Nina 03-15-2008 10:12 AM

Thanks for posting the chart and pattern. I really like it. I look forward to seeing your finished product. You do such nice work on everything!

katmarq 03-15-2008 01:13 PM

your plan is beautiful just as you show it! I can't wait to see it finished.

Batik will be very pretty. I did an Irish Chain for my daughter with a batik red, batik gray and black. It was very rich looking. She loved it.


Flying_V_Goddess 03-15-2008 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by 2 Doods
IMHO on the size-If you want it to go on a bed (possibly) I would go with a queen. Even if she has a double bed now, if they ever up-size to a queen it would still fit nicely. I have a queen/king size quilt on a king bed and it is a bit small. Wish the quilt was larger. Our guest bed is a queen and it fits 2 people shoulder to shoulder. Seems pretty tight after having a king! :wink:

Love the plan you have! Hope you will post pictures! :lol:

I was kind of thinking that too (to make it queen sized). I'm just wondering if I should add that black border for a drop.


Originally Posted by Nina
Thanks for posting the chart and pattern. I really like it. I look forward to seeing your finished product. You do such nice work on everything!

I had to update the chart. Last night I noticed there are two different pinwheels going in two different directions. Good thing I caught it because I'd hate to make it and then have to fix half a dozen or a dozen blocks (depending on what pinwheel I made).

Here's the updated chart
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...unamiKEy-1.png

Flying_V_Goddess 03-15-2008 03:55 PM

I've been looking at the website amma gave me and I really like a batik that I found on there. It the closest to the deep red/blood/garnet color that Deni likes. A "watercolor batik" (I'm assuming that's a type of batik---I'm not an expert on this type of fabric). I think it would work well.

https://www.fabricdepot.com/index.php?page=ProductPage&pageid=19133

I wish I had EQ so I could input this fabric into the design and see what it would look like (and see if it matches the image in my head). The Paint program only goes so far. *sigh*

They're having a sale on watercolor batiks right now (I think they're like $5 per yard), but I'm not sure if I'll be able to buy some within this sale---for once I have money and I have to save it for something else. Otherwise they're like $10.99 a yard! Is there a cheaper alternative?

Now that I think about it, with what I have in mind the quilt will end up looking similar to a batik I saw on thousandsofbolts.com
http://thousandsofbolts.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=68 06

Flying_V_Goddess 03-15-2008 08:23 PM

I'm having trouble coming up with a size. When I get something for the width I get something ridiculous for the length, or so it seems. Like if I go for 12" blocks, I get 84" x 108". If I'm going by the approx. quilt sizes ccbear66 posted, that means I haven't even hit the minimum width and hit the maximum length. And this is without the 12" drop I want to add.

Barb M 03-15-2008 08:27 PM

The top of a queen mattress is 60 by 80. I usually do a queen 84inches square, then the top of the quilt comes to the bottom of the pillows, and hangs over the foot of the bed the same amount as the sides. You would do it 108 long, if you want it to be the style that goes right over and tuckes under the pillows.

2 Doods 03-15-2008 08:29 PM

I like the idea of the black border as the drop. That puts the focus on the bed top where all your pretty work will be. It will also cut down on the red which is the batik. Maybe the black will be a bit less expensive. Wish I had EQ too. Saw it in action for the first time at a friends house. Red binding. Just my 2 cents worth. I know there are many quilters more experienced with this than I am. It will be beautiful whatever you decide. :!:

Flying_V_Goddess 03-15-2008 09:13 PM

How about 87"x93", included with a 12" border on the sides and a 6" border on top and bottom? I believe that would require 9" blocks.

zyxquilts 03-16-2008 12:44 AM

You might want to check out the Moda Marbles too - a bit less expensive than the batiks, but they are similar to the "watercolor" one you linked too. I found some here: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/catalog_items.aspx?TypID=114&Viewby=Types&Page=1
for a really good price!

Ditter43 03-16-2008 04:23 PM

I would definately use the red border. Sounds like she has a standard size double bed.

I like my quilts big enough to hang down to the top of the dust ruffle, and tuck over the pillows. About 80x100 would be generous. I would love to get a quilt like that as a gift!!!

happy quilting!
Ditter43

Flying_V_Goddess 03-16-2008 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by zyxquilts
You might want to check out the Moda Marbles too - a bit less expensive than the batiks, but they are similar to the "watercolor" one you linked too. I found some here: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/catalog_items.aspx?TypID=114&Viewby=Types&Page=1
for a really good price!

I really want to get batik, but I'll keep this in mind in case I can't. Thanks!


Originally Posted by Ditter43
I would definately use the red border. Sounds like she has a standard size double bed.

I like my quilts big enough to hang down to the top of the dust ruffle, and tuck over the pillows. About 80x100 would be generous. I would love to get a quilt like that as a gift!!!

happy quilting!
Ditter43

Red border? I was going to go with a black one...the thin red border in the picture is supposed to be the binding. I'm not sure if I want the red binidng now if I use batik...looks kind of weird (at least in my head, anyways).

Flying_V_Goddess 03-17-2008 06:59 PM

Well, all I need now is to figure out how big my pieces have to be to make 9" blocks. ...I really suck at this part.

vicki reno 03-18-2008 06:59 AM

I made a queen size years ago, before mattresses got so thick and it was 90 X 120. The 120 is still a good number because I like to put the pillow under it and use the quilt as a spread on top of the sheets, but since I have a much thicker mattress nowadays the 90 is kind of skimpy. If they do not have a queen, it would still look good on a double bed. Most people now a days opt for a queen size. But like I said, I would go with a little more than 90 for width. I agree with you that the wide border is the way to go and I love the link to thousands of bolts. I just spent a fortune there buying fabric for my DIL's quilt! Much cheaper than the fabric stores here in town.

Flying_V_Goddess 03-18-2008 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by vicki reno
I made a queen size years ago, before mattresses got so thick and it was 90 X 120. The 120 is still a good number because I like to put the pillow under it and use the quilt as a spread on top of the sheets, but since I have a much thicker mattress nowadays the 90 is kind of skimpy. If they do not have a queen, it would still look good on a double bed. Most people now a days opt for a queen size. But like I said, I would go with a little more than 90 for width. I agree with you that the wide border is the way to go and I love the link to thousands of bolts. I just spent a fortune there buying fabric for my DIL's quilt! Much cheaper than the fabric stores here in town.

I drew up something quick on graph paper with the wide borders and it frames the design really nicely. The uneven border almost frames it like a piece of artwork...I was taught that when you mat a picture you're supposed to have a little more on the bottom than on the sides and top. The quilt borders kind of have a same effect. And with the border I can get a decent quilt size that I can't get with the design alone...I get really low numbers with the width and real high numbers with the length...the borders even out these extreme numbers a little.

From the sounds of it they have a double bed. But I'm assuming they'll move up to a queen...seems like when two people get used to one bed they end up wanting to move something bigger (I sure would of liked a double bed the other night sharing a single with Nick. lol.)

I could make my blocks 10" with a 12" border on the sides and a 6" border on the top and bottom, making it 94"x114. Think that would be better suited for a Queen if she decides to get one?

3incollege 03-18-2008 06:27 PM

You are really amazing. what a wonderful friend you are.
I think batiks is the why to go. they are easy to work with. I have a quilt shop in my area that specializes in batiks, she carries alot of bolts and she might have some on clarance. I will check it out of you. I think between all of us on the board we can find what you want for the best price. I wish I had EQ also. Donna

Flying_V_Goddess 03-18-2008 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by 3incollege
You are really amazing. what a wonderful friend you are.
I think batiks is the why to go. they are easy to work with. I have a quilt shop in my area that specializes in batiks, she carries alot of bolts and she might have some on clarance. I will check it out of you. I think between all of us on the board we can find what you want for the best price. I wish I had EQ also. Donna

If you could find any deep red/garnet/blood colored watercolor-like batiks, that would be awesome!

I've kind of run into a problem with the batik. I asked how to handle them and Judy (I think it was Judy---just off the top of my head) told me about this stuff to keep it the batik from bleeding like crazy. Retayne I think its called. Sounds good except I'm wondering if fabric treated with this is safe around children. Don't want to give this quilt to Deni and then find her newborn child got sick being around a quilt with treated batik. Would you happen to know if this stuff is safe around children or have a great alternative solution?

vicki reno 03-19-2008 03:11 AM

I have used the watercolor batiks without treting them and notcied no problem. BUT, that was only the one washing that I did when done woth the quilt. So I am not much help but love to be included in your thoughts as far as the design. You ar very talented.

Ditter43 03-19-2008 07:49 AM

Vicki,
Sounds like you have it all worked out. Now the fun part!!I'm looking forward to seeing the finished quilt!
Isn't it great to have like minds to brainstorm with?

ditter43

Flying_V_Goddess 03-19-2008 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by vicki reno
I have used the watercolor batiks without treting them and notcied no problem. BUT, that was only the one washing that I did when done woth the quilt. So I am not much help but love to be included in your thoughts as far as the design. You ar very talented.

*sigh* Having two opinions on washing batiks doesn't help. One person telling me they need to be treated cause they bleed like crazy (Judy) and another telling me she's had no problems washing them like cottons (ShadowDancer). On one hand I don't want to take the risk in washing batik normally and end up with the colors washed out, dulled, faded, etc. On the same note, I don't want to treat it with something that I don't know is safe for children. I'll contact the company of the stuff and see if fabric treated with this stuff is safe for small children. If not, well I'm......I can't think of a way to put it without offending some people.

amma 03-19-2008 07:14 PM

Batiks can be like any other fabric. Some dark colored fabrics bleed and some do not. I would do just what you said, contact the company and see what they say. Once the fabric is treated, I would think a couple of washings would remove the chemical treatment. So far the batiks that I have bought have all been color fast, including the reds and blacks. I cut a small piece off of the corner and place it in very warm soapy water to check for bleeding. Hopefully what you buy will not need any treatment and it will not be a concern.

amma 03-19-2008 07:59 PM

I went to prochemicals website and got this info on Retayne, here is the link.

http://www.prochemical.com/MaterialSafety/Auxiliaries/2007%20Retayne.pdf

It seems pretty safe as long as you do not get the actual chemical in your eyes, mouth, or skin. It says it is not a known carcinogen, it does not enter through the skin or through inhalation. I would think it would be safe to use. Personally, I would rinse the fabric and dry it according to the bottles instructions to set the dye in the fabric and then I would probably wash it and rinse it again just to make sure all the chemical was out of the fabric.

Flying_V_Goddess 03-19-2008 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by amma
I went to prochemicals website and got this info on Retayne, here is the link.

http://www.prochemical.com/MaterialSafety/Auxiliaries/2007%20Retayne.pdf

It seems pretty safe as long as you do not get the actual chemical in your eyes, mouth, or skin. It says it is not a known carcinogen, it does not enter through the skin or through inhalation. I would think it would be safe to use. Personally, I would rinse the fabric and dry it according to the bottles instructions to set the dye in the fabric and then I would probably wash it and rinse it again just to make sure all the chemical was out of the fabric.

I emailed the company about it so hopefully they'll get back to me and I'll know for sure.

Flying_V_Goddess 03-19-2008 08:56 PM

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...TsunamiKey.png

Here is the ultimate quilt key for the Tsunami quilt with all the blocks, the number of blocks and pieces there are, and how many of each piece is needed. :D

Flying_V_Goddess 03-21-2008 06:45 PM

I was looking through one of my Keepsake Quilting catalogs and saw this black Amish fabric---supposed to be as black as black can get. Sounds great, but its $6 a yard. Think it'd be worth the buy?

Flying_V_Goddess 03-23-2008 08:19 PM

I think I got most of this figured out.......I think.

I decided to ditch the batik. I think I'll go with the marble fabrics Sue (I think it was Sue) posted on here. I found one that I feel will work. The only problem is part of me is thinking "Its not that 'blood red' Deni likes. Its too much of a bright red."

http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/catalog_itemdetail.aspx?ItmID=FP705

Probably won't go for that rich black Amish fabric I found, unless someone here thinks it'd be worth getting that over plain ol' black fabric.

Now all that's left to figure out is the templates and how much fabric I need. I really hate to ask, but would anyone with EQ want to make templates for the blocks I have (just three---the half pinwheel thing, a pinwheel, and a Virginia Reel). Need 10" blocks. I'd do it myself if I had EQ and I don't trust myself making them on graph paper---knowing me I'll probably get the sizes wrong, forget the seam allowances, mess up an angle on a triangle, or screw up somewhere. I'm just not good at figuring out the sizes of the actual pieces. :( Everything else I can figure out...just not how big the pieces have to be.

Bernadette Harwood 03-25-2008 06:44 PM

Erica's@erica's.com has beautiful fabric. I used to work there. You will love their fabrics. Lots of choices. Anxious to see your quilt. I started to give you measurements as I have my chart next to my computer but someone beat me too it. I like the idea of making it a queen because no one likes the little full size so they will probably get bigger when they can.

Flying_V_Goddess 03-25-2008 07:34 PM

I just can't wait until I get everything figured out. I got most of the planning done. Someone gave me a website to figure out my yardage...the numbers I got on there weren't too far off from what I got with my calculator and lots and lots of paper. All that's left is to figure out the yardage for the backing and border. The backing it'll figure out just fine, but not the borders...well, it can figure out border yardage, but it only does even borders. Doesn't help I got two different widths for my borders. So I'm not sure how to go about that.

cnolan 03-25-2008 09:23 PM

THANK YOU for sharing your wonderful pattern with us!!!! 8) :lol: 8)

kasapa 03-26-2008 12:50 PM

Your "Tsunami" quilt is absolutely beautiful, but ............I have to ask it............ Seeing that you gave us the charts and what the blocks are to look like........please could you also give us a drawing of the templetes, or the rotary cutting ways you used. I AM DYING TO MAKE ONE and I know I'm not the only one.
Sincerely
Kasapa

Flying_V_Goddess 03-26-2008 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by kasapa
Your "Tsunami" quilt is absolutely beautiful, but ............I have to ask it............ Seeing that you gave us the charts and what the blocks are to look like........please could you also give us a drawing of the templetes, or the rotary cutting ways you used. I AM DYING TO MAKE ONE and I know I'm not the only one.
Sincerely
Kasapa

amma offered to make templates for me. When she emails them to me I'll post them. :) They'll make 10" blocks so you'll be able to make a 70"x90" quilt (without borders).

If I ever get EQ someday I'll have to make templates for different quilt sizes (full, queen, king, etc).

cnolan 03-26-2008 06:49 PM

If you can give me a day or two, I will give measurements so you can rotary cut the blocks. Kids are home this week, so I don't have as much time as I would like, but I should be able to have the information ready to post by the end of the week.

amma 03-26-2008 07:28 PM

I am going to send you the templates so that you can make block 1 with a rectangle, a square and only 1 1/2 square triangle out of the red and black, if you would like to make it that way. Less cutting and dealing with bias edges this way. Block # 2 would be a rectangle and 2 1/2 square triangles out of the red and black. Just another option..... :)

Flying_V_Goddess 03-26-2008 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by amma
I am going to send you the templates so that you can make block 1 with a rectangle, a square and only 1 1/2 square triangle out of the red and black, if you would like to make it that way. Less cutting and dealing with bias edges this way. Block # 2 would be a rectangle and 2 1/2 square triangles out of the red and black. Just another option..... :)

I don't quite understand how that would work. But I'd rather have the indivual triangles I got. Its just that I put a lot of work into this design so I'm pretty set on using this layout using these pieces. I don't want to go changing things so late in the game.

amma 03-26-2008 09:10 PM

Not a problem.... You will get the ones you want :D


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