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k_jupiter 02-20-2007 09:35 AM

Seams that is.

I have read when you are going to quilt in the ditch, the seams should be pressed to the dark side and the fabric will be a lot stronger when you do your ditch. Makes sense. But...

While doing triangles and other smaller pieces, it seems the seams over to one side cause distortion to the piece. Ask me how I know (288 1/2 triangle squares).

So what is your theory, do you open all your seams, seams only in the middle of a block, or do you press to one side?

tim in san jose

Country Quilter 02-20-2007 09:39 AM

I press most of my seams open due to that wonkiness you sometimes get if they are pressed to one side and then stitched together...it takes me as much time to press them open as it does to figure out which way to press each seam so that they work together instead of against each other!

However, that being said, IF and only IF I know for a fact that it isn't going to but up against another seam...I will save some time by pressing to one side!

HST's (half square triangles) I almost ALWAYs press open... it just saves a headache later on....they take alot of time but to me its worth it in the long run!

Knot Sew 02-20-2007 11:06 AM

I agree it depends on the design and the colors. I woud not put a dark toward a light. Usually if you have a good pattern design they take into account the next seam so you don't end up with a "thick bunch"..
If you are quilting by hand it is much easier if you open the seams.
Happy Quilting

Country Quilter 02-20-2007 11:11 AM

yes, Ruthie...thats another thing...how you plan to quilt it... I am pretty much still "stuck in the ditch" and if the seams are to one side or another it leaves a little hump...JMHO.... if I ever perfect my free motion quilting (HA!) it may work better then also...and even tho I don't do hand quilting, I can sure see where it would be better if they were pressed open! Good Point!!! Glad you brought that up!

k_jupiter 02-20-2007 11:42 AM

Well, I am a machine quilter and the little 'hump' doesn't bother me when I put the ditch seams to one side. Something about feeling in the middle of the night the pattern that you worked on, even though you can't see it. I am more concerned with keeping the pattern straight when doing small piecings.
It does seem like the joint is stronger if the fabric goes over to one side and you quilt along that edge.

tim in san jose

mimisharon 02-20-2007 03:40 PM

I try hard to open all my seams, also, however the steam iron is getting to me. I still have to use my big old iron, I haven't purchased one of the smaller head irons, yet and bnot sure when I will. It's hard to buy all the fabric I want. But I digress,

There are times, even when I pin the seams open and join them that one edge or the other will jump in the wrong direction and I sure don't take out all the seam when it's a whole block. I just steam it more and longer and keep on goin' I think it makes the joints (seams) stronger if I go ot one side or other, but in planning, I normally plan open for a flat look.

Just mho.
Sharon

kathy 02-21-2007 04:52 AM

well I press open for all the above reasons and why does a quilt seam need to be stronger? what kind of stress is it under? especially after it's quilted? when i make garments I press the sleeves toward the garment and sew again for strength but not my quilts

mimisharon 02-21-2007 06:44 AM

You make a very good point, Kathy. I would think that the only reason it needs to be stronger is if it goes to a young child that may not be as lovingly careful with them, or if someone is going to be washing it a lot, like the baby quilts we've all created for our loved ones??

Sharon

triciasquilts 02-21-2007 07:02 AM

I rarely press my seams open. It seems when you do that, you can actually see your stitching. I've watched other quilters do that and have seen their seams when looking at their quilts. I highly recommend pressing one way or the other.

Do you press from the bottom or top? I always press from top. You can keep your pieces from stretching in any way when you press on top.
I try to press to the darkest but if thats not the way my fabric wants to go, I will press the way it needs to go. I hope that makes sense!!!!!LOL

I quilt about 14 hours every day, so its just kind of automatic to me!!!

Tricia

patricej 02-21-2007 07:30 AM

Dearest Pals and Buddies of Mine ...

Love ya both to pieces, but disagree enough to say it here. :?

If you hope a quilt will be passed down as an heirloom then strength of everything matters quite a bit. ever try to repair a 40 year old quilt that wasn't stitched together well in the first place? lots of not fun.

i almost never press open becaue i want as few seam allowances to show as possible. if bumps in the road present a significant problem when ditch stitching, i sometimes use a zipper foot so i can get reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel close without having to go over the bump. i'll switch feet right in the middle of a line of stitching if i have to. but that's just me. i'll bet 1,000 people will read this and think i need to be locked up for it. LOL

Each quilter should feel free to use the method she or he feels achieves the best balance between appearance, ease to quilt, and long-term durability. it's in the constitution, i think. somewhere in the fine print of the 1st Ammendment. :wink:

triciasquilts 02-21-2007 07:37 AM

Patrice, I totally agree!!!! I also do quilt restoration and one of the biggest problems is poor seams. I almost always have to take them apart piece by piece and have always noticed the seams are pressed open. Doesn't make for a very strong seam when done like this.
I always try to do whatever I can to go over those bumps too, but find that if I plan and do it right, its very rare that I have these!!!
Thanks for you input.

Tricia

kathy 02-21-2007 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by PatriceJ
Dearest Pals and Buddies of Mine ...

Love ya both to pieces, but disagree enough to say it here. :?

If you hope a quilt will be passed down as an heirloom then strength of everything matters quite a bit. ever try to repair a 40 year old quilt that wasn't stitched together well in the first place? lots of not fun.

i almost never press open becaue i want as few seam allowances to show as possible. if bumps in the road present a significant problem when ditch stitching, i sometimes use a zipper foot so i can get reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel close without having to go over the bump. i'll switch feet right in the middle of a line of stitching if i have to. but that's just me. i'll bet 1,000 people will read this and think i need to be locked up for it. LOL

Each quilter should feel free to use the method she or he feels achieves the best balance between appearance, ease to quilt, and long-term durability. it's in the constitution, i think. somewhere in the fine print of the 1st Ammendment. :wink:

ok I'll go for the last paragraph...to each his/her own

mimisharon 02-21-2007 12:56 PM

Oh good grief, I'm going to find out where these quilt police are and when will they be here to catch me up?

I sincerely believe everyone does the best they can with what they have. I HAVE had to try to reconstruct, it's never fun to reconstruct anything.

But get those marshals out after me, k?

patricej 02-21-2007 02:02 PM

come to my house. i'll not only hide you, i'll feed you too. :-)

Country Quilter 02-21-2007 02:11 PM

Sharon...you are too funny! LOL and I wouldn't worry about those darn police! they really don't exist! I happen to agree with you...I like the flat look to it when they are pressed open and I don't worry about it showing at all... but as said earlier...to each their own! LOL.... so I DID say earlier that it depends on the pattern and I couldn't at that time recall which ones but today I worked on a rail fence...and guess what? thats one where it doesn't matter so I DID press them to one side!

patricej 02-21-2007 02:25 PM

you bad, bad girl you.

:lol:

mimisharon 02-21-2007 05:01 PM

Country Quilter, you've burst my bubble! I really had hopes of having help on moving and sandwiching a couple of quilts. Now I have to do them all by myself! Shoot fire, I was really looking forward to those police coming. Who doesn't need more muscle when working on some of these quilts?

Hey Patrice, you better watch out, I'll take you up on the hiding out and feeding me one of these days.

:shock:

patricej 02-22-2007 01:03 AM

any time, GF, any time ...

:-)

kathy 02-22-2007 04:23 AM

hey everybody............. party at patrice's house

patricej 02-22-2007 04:55 AM

BYOB and c'mon over!!!

:mrgreen:

kathy 02-22-2007 05:38 AM

whoops, i thought it was BYOQ...my bad

Norah 02-22-2007 05:50 AM

Sounds like we all got a bad case of cabin fever. Everyone gets crazy in February. In taking y'alls advice, I am hiding in the sewing room, listening to Credence with the required goodies, have a bottle, and trying to sew on my quilt. I can't even decide what to do next. But, boy, am I relaxed. Okay, I'm starting to worry about all of you.
Back to reality, I've had to redo some of my seams in a few years when pressed open, and I can see the stitches in the seam too much when open.....so closed for me. Most of the experts I've read said to press them closed. I guess they know something, or they wouldn't be experts.
But, who am I? I mean really, who am I?

patricej 02-22-2007 06:01 AM

aren't you that redhead who works in the bar at the airport?

Norah 02-22-2007 06:04 AM

Patrice, you're a trip. :lol:

mimisharon 02-22-2007 06:18 AM

Gosh, Patrice, I thought she was the blonde in the convertible driving back and forth over the bridge...........the biggg bridge!

patricej 02-22-2007 06:21 AM

or do you mean the brunette driving back and forth over her husband?

kathy 02-22-2007 06:21 AM

must've been that "red eye" trip you took patrice, she's the brunette that works at starbucks (I think) but then what do i know? don't answer that! LOL

mimisharon 02-22-2007 07:04 AM

Oh, no, Patrice. ThAT brunette is me!

mimisharon 02-22-2007 07:06 AM

Kathy, thought the Starbucks gal was you,. You changed your hair though, it was red when you got my coffee!

kathy 02-22-2007 07:10 AM

ok, i think we've all had too much coffee, we'd better settle down before we get in trouble

patricej 02-22-2007 08:08 AM

buzzkill

:cry:

janiecurry 02-22-2007 07:14 PM

Does GF include me? I rarely cook now that the last babe has moved out...though I could maybe use a running buddy instead, but free food for a quilter, is like sayin FREE FAT QUARTERS....the line is forming behind me...lol, Janie

Norah 02-23-2007 03:50 AM

Janie, How far you wanting to run? Maybe this summer some of us West Coast folk can get together for a quilt weekend. 'Course, all of you could come, but it could be a bit of a drive. We need to figure out where we all are. Could some of you post your general location on your profiles? We could have regional meets.

patricej 02-23-2007 04:40 AM

GF includes everybody here - even Tim (Because I'm too lazy to type GF/BF every time, that's why. LOL)

k_jupiter 02-24-2007 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by PatriceJ
GF includes everybody here - even Tim (Because I'm too lazy to type GF/BF every time, that's why. LOL)

You let me be the 'fly on the wall' at one of your quilting tete^a^tetes, you can call me whatever you want.

*L*

tim

mimisharon 02-24-2007 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by k_jupiter

Originally Posted by PatriceJ
GF includes everybody here - even Tim (Because I'm too lazy to type GF/BF every time, that's why. LOL)

You let me be the 'fly on the wall' at one of your quilting tete^a^tetes, you can call me whatever you want.

*L*

tim

C'mon now, you wouldn't want to be the center of attention? hmm, sumpin wrong there.
But a quilting anything would be great, on the East Coast, that's the best. At the beach, or close to the beach, eh, gals and guys??
Planning it, aren't you, Patrice???

patricej 02-24-2007 02:32 PM

i live about an hour and a half from several different beaches. in a pinch, i could cram enough air mattresses in around the house to put up 8 or 10 of you - assuming you don't mind crowding in slumber-party-style. (if you have a tent, i have a decent sized back yard, too. LOL)

what's to arrange? all we need is a long weekend. :-)

k_jupiter 02-25-2007 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by mimisharon

C'mon now, you wouldn't want to be the center of attention? hmm, sumpin wrong there.
But a quilting anything would be great, on the East Coast, that's the best. At the beach, or close to the beach, eh, gals and guys??
Planning it, aren't you, Patrice???


Mah Dad taught me a couple of good things in his life. One was "Never expect some woman to do something for you that you can't do yourself", hence I quilt. The other that comes to mind is... "Never be the center of attention in a room full of women with sharp and pointy things in their hands." This is probably good advice.

tim in san jose

mimisharon 02-25-2007 12:16 PM




Mah Dad taught me a couple of good things in his life. One was "Never expect some woman to do something for you that you can't do yourself", hence I quilt. The other that comes to mind is... "Never be the center of attention in a room full of women with sharp and pointy things in their hands." This is probably good advice.

tim in san jose[/quote]


Likely keeps you alive to this day! :mrgreen:

janiecurry 02-28-2007 01:54 AM

Norah:
Maybe I confused you. I really can't run. I have MS, as some already know and after this weekend in the hospital am back on my walker. But, I am interested in the idea of meeting in certain regions or areas. I live just south of Portland, Oregon and would love to hear from any of you that live close enough to get connected to. I was just being silly with my comments...Seriously though, maybe we are on to something and at least some of us that can travel should get busy and plan something. Did I hear Patrice or someone offer? Well, count me in if it is close by. We could have a weekend of show and tell and maybe some teaching and make these friendship we are making here, have memories too...Janie


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