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MeadowMist 11-06-2019 07:54 AM

Pinning seams - always?
 
Hi - do you pin All of your seams before stitching together or do you only pin longer seams together?

Is there a generalized cut-off - for instance if you are stitching 2 10" squares together, yes, pin them first, but if you are stitching 2 3"squares or less together it's okay to skip the pinning.

bearisgray 11-06-2019 07:58 AM

I pin long seams together - in fact I halve and quarter them before joining them - and then match the half and quarter points. I do measure them first to see if they are the same length.

If there are a lot of intersections that are not behaving well, I pin them. If they are behaving very badly, I baste them first before sewing them with small stitches.

Piecing small pieces together, generally I just hold them together.

Iceblossom 11-06-2019 08:05 AM

I'm a big believer in pinning, every 2" or so. So for me a 3" square would probably get two pins, one towards either side, but in general if I'm going to pin I'm going to use 3 pins at a time, so that would be a 6"-ish unit.

But... when I am doing strip piecing of WoF (width of fabric) together, I do that without pinning. After it is subcut though or there is a seam, there is pretty much always a pin. One big reason is I press open and I like to pin down the leading edge so it doesn't get flipped. I use the big long quilt pins but they are well down from the seam line/presser foot, an inch or so down.

I have friends who press to the side or don't press at all and their styles work for them. I've incorporated pinning time into a portable project that I can do at my Tuesday group, or I went to my husband's bowling league the other night, they are getting used to me sitting in the background pinning or hand sewing binding. Can also do while watching tv.

Doggramma 11-06-2019 08:06 AM

I only pin long seams, like a border. And I pin when there are tricky points to match up.

QuiltnNan 11-06-2019 08:27 AM

I very rarely pin, but I often pin the borders

selm 11-06-2019 08:29 AM

I rarely if every pin seams including binding. I find if I sew slowly as I match edges and pay attention to not stretching fabric everything works out. It probably takes as long as taking the time to pin then racing through the stitching. I think I was probably taught this way as I usually research any educational material before starting anything new. (It's been so long I really don't remember). Anyway, this works for me and I've been told my piecing is really good so I'll keep doing it this way.

Tartan 11-06-2019 08:30 AM

​I pin long seams because I don’t like how they get twisted around before they go through the machine. If interactions have to match, I pin at the intersections and ease between them.

patricej 11-06-2019 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by bearisgray (Post 8323604)
If there are a lot of intersections that are not behaving well, I pin them. If they are behaving very badly, I baste them first before sewing them with small stitches.

i always pin intersections.
on a long seam, i pin and then baste.
once they are all basted accurately, i sew.

sewingitalltogether 11-06-2019 08:49 AM

I don't always pin the seams. Straight seams are easy enough to sew. Curved seams I pin, a lot. And am gluing the curved seams that give me trouble.

feline fanatic 11-06-2019 08:59 AM

Since discovering how easy it was to glue, I rarely pin. I glue critical matching intersections setting the glue with my iron. I have a bottle of Elmers Washable school glue at my ironing board always. A critical matching intersection trumps length for me. I don't pin/glue small units and have gone as long as 12" with not pinning/gluing as long as there wasn't a critical intersection that needed to match up.

Oops, edited to add, like "sewingitalltogether", I do pin curves. I have not tried gluing them so thanks for that input sewingit.

TeresaA 11-06-2019 09:04 AM

Depends on the seam. I don't pin when I sew strips. I always pin when I want my seams to line up. I've heard people say that "if you cut and piece accurately, you don't have to pin. So many factors weigh into that, though....fabric can shift, even for the best of us. When in doubt, pin.

MeadowMist 11-06-2019 09:17 AM

Thank you all for your opinions. I usually pin (and baste) where intersections are and for longer seams, but I skip this step for shorter seams. Right now I'm sewing 2 3" squares together. Whereas before I would just stitch these together, this time I've decided to take the extra time to pin. Hopefully this will work to make things a little less wonky for me. If I were to sew two long strips together of the exact same length without pins, by the end of the strip I would have an overhang of a half inch or so on one strip. I'm not sure if it's just my sewing machine that does this or if they all do, or if it's something I'm doing to make it happen. So for the long ones I definitely need to pin.

bearisgray 11-06-2019 09:19 AM

If I am sewing something where the edges don't line up - like a triangle in a square unit , or a half-rectangle unit - I match the intersecting points, and then pin.

bearisgray 11-06-2019 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by MeadowMist (Post 8323624)
Thank you all for your opinions. I usually pin (and baste) where intersections are and for longer seams, but I skip this step for shorter seams. Right now I'm sewing 2 3" squares together. Whereas before I would just stitch these together, this time I've decided to take the extra time to pin. Hopefully this will work to make things a little less wonky for me. If I were to sew two long strips together of the exact same length without pins, by the end of the strip I would have an overhang of a half inch or so on one strip. I'm not sure if it's just my sewing machine that does this or if they all do, or if it's something I'm doing to make it happen. So for the long ones I definitely need to pin.

A "regular" presser foot - as compared to a "walking foot" - usually feeds the bottom layer "faster" than the top layer.

Which is why if something needs to be eased in - the longer length is "down" and the shorter length is on top.

Something that has kind of helped me - when sewing long strips together - I hold the pieces so that they are about four to six inches above the machine bed.

My theory is - the lower/bottom piece now has to travel a teeny bit further than the top piece - so sometimes that seems to help make the pieces "come out even".

Iceblossom 11-06-2019 09:23 AM

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Fabric has tensions of it's own in it, and then the seam has tension, and small amounts of tug or pull that we put in all contribute. And I say that some fabric is treacherous! It wants to move and shift and cause issues, even if it is all high quality cotton.

I prefer the modern strip piecing methods and trim things down to fit. Whenever I can when I'm putting two sets of fabrics together, I sew first, cut second. If everything is scrap, that can be hard to do. But my preferred solution would be to use one long strip of "background" and then my individually carefully cut squares on top of that with maybe 1/2" between them to deal with those twists and strains.

On a recent project I was taking process photos, this isn't the best but it shows the general idea. With these fabrics some were very large scale prints and I deliberately oversized the pieces a bit so I could at least be slightly fussy with the cuts.

Edit: To clarify, those pieces that are on the dark green were further subcut into (two) 2-square units. As was the blue/brown piece. Originally when I used the green strip I would have had additional other 2-square units (maybe 6?) along the length but I cut the others off.

And this is what it looked like finished. Sort of hard to envision from this picture here!
https://www.quiltingboard.com/quilti...ml#post8284787

RJLinkletter 11-06-2019 10:25 AM

I rarely pin - if there are sections to match I will beat the seams as I go and sew more slowly as I find this more accurate. Borders or long strips I do match up key points before I sew but tend to use clips more than pins.

I use pins more in bag making when I want to keep several layers together

tallchick 11-06-2019 10:32 AM

I’m a die hard pinner and starcher, these 2 things help me do my very best work. Does it take more effort? Yes, but for myself it’s what I like and it’s what works for me.

NJ Quilter 11-06-2019 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by tallchick (Post 8323644)
I’m a die hard pinner and starcher, these 2 things help me do my very best work. Does it take more effort? Yes, but for myself it’s what I like and it’s what works for me.

I'm the same way. But I normally do not pin binding, haha, except at the mitered corners and I pin the heck out of those!

cashs_mom 11-06-2019 01:46 PM

I'm very on and off about pinning. Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. I usually pin borders but I don't pin intersections. I use a drop of Elmer's glue on intersections. I rarely have an intersection that doesn't meet since I've been using Elmer's.

Jingle 11-06-2019 02:03 PM

I always pin borders and carefully make sure the edges are even. I always pin intersections, I love for them to match perfectly.

Peckish 11-06-2019 02:13 PM

I think Feline Fanatic and I must be twins. I'm another one who very rarely pins, but when I do find the need, I use a dot of school glue instead. I think pins can sometimes distort the fabric.

maminstl 11-06-2019 03:10 PM

I only pin if I need to, or if it seems easier for one reason or another - really never when I'm just piecing, but long seams if there are lots of seams to match up.

hobbykat1955 11-06-2019 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by maminstl (Post 8323739)
I only pin if I need to, or if it seems easier for one reason or another - really never when I'm just piecing, but long seams if there are lots of seams to match up.

Me Too! I agree only if matching seams...I've gotten very good at just lining up under needle cking as I'm sewing they are aligned and zip right down...I also use a 1/4 foot w/guide which helps.

pocoellie 11-06-2019 06:49 PM

I admit, I'm a pinner.

tranum 11-06-2019 07:32 PM

Pin pin pin !

Claire123 11-06-2019 08:28 PM

I do. I have tried not pinning and always regretted it.

busy fingers 11-06-2019 09:19 PM

I pin everything within a inch of its life.

Aurora 11-07-2019 02:10 AM

I also pin all seams.

grann of 6 11-07-2019 04:12 AM

I stopped pinning when I got the cute little clips. I use the clips when I am putting binding on, but rarely use them for any other piecing. I occasionally use the clips for a long seam like when putting on borders, but otherwise I just trust my own capabilities to do the seam without any aids.

luvstoquilt 11-07-2019 04:43 AM

I am a pinned and a starcher. I have always pinned but the starching is something I learned from Pam Buda and it really cut down on fraying.

BonnieJP 11-07-2019 05:15 AM

I rarely pin except occasionally where blocks intersect. I sew slowly and keep matching as I go.

janjanq 11-07-2019 05:43 AM

I only pin when matching seams or to keep seam allowances from flipping. Often I will use clips at the beginning and ending of strips edges about two inches away from the seam line.

jmoore 11-07-2019 06:59 AM

I am in the group of pinners...especially when piecing blocks together . I don’t always pin in the construction of units for the blocks or when sewing strips, but as soon as there is an intersection or pressed seams to join...I usually pin.

Jordan 11-07-2019 06:59 AM

I pin every intersection but I definitely pull pins out as I come to them. Don't want to get a broken needle so I don't sew over my pins.

mmunchkins 11-07-2019 08:34 AM

I almost always pin.

zozee 11-07-2019 09:47 AM

As little as possible, seams longer than 12 inches, or if I have a stack of twosies to sew after removing them foem the design wall, i will pin on the side that gets down. I usually glue intersections.

Irishrose2 11-07-2019 09:49 AM

I pin intersections and put a few pins in long seams like borders. I don't want a surprise at the end. I pin rows from the design wall to keep the blocks in order, but that's about it.

WMUTeach 11-08-2019 10:23 AM

I pin because I have too often stretched one of the two pieces and that only causes problem. Several others also have mentioned their reasons for pinning and they many seem to be to prevent the same nasty error....stretching.

tuckyquilter 11-08-2019 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MeadowMist (Post 8323602)
Hi - do you pin All of your seams before stitching together or do you only pin longer seams together?

Is there a generalized cut-off - for instance if you are stitching 2 10" squares together, yes, pin them first, but if you are stitching 2 3"squares or less together it's okay to skip the pinning.

I pin very little I glue like a crazy woman. Mr Elmer Glue and I have a long standing personal relationship. He has been the best helper ever, especially with binding the quilts. I also glue HST points, chain piecing and corners to make sure the pieces don't shift. Makes my life so much easier.

Here's a neat little video of how I do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_sGpTZBBc4

Also Sharon Schamber has some great youtube

costumegirl 11-08-2019 01:37 PM

I am in the pinning group - I pin everything for all the reasons already mentioned. I am not a fast sewer and it does take me longer than most to sew stuff and I know I'm a bit persnikity in having everything line up with no stretching or shifting. If it does shift it gets ripped out. I will use either my walking foot or 1/4" foot and remove each pin before it goes under- yes I know there may be easier and faster ways but it works for me.


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