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babalu 06-21-2012 11:52 AM

Question about matching seams...
 
I am about 1/3 of the way through piecing a Disappearing 9 Patch top. When I sewed the original 9 patches together, I pressed the seams to one side. Now that I am mixing up the individual squares, I find that sometimes I must sew two patches together where both are pressesd to the same side. I am having a hard time matching those seams accurately! Does anyone have a 'trick' for matching these seams? Thanks in advance for any advice...

scrapngmom 06-21-2012 12:10 PM

I don't know the answer, but I too have had the same problem. Will be watching this thread.

GemState 06-21-2012 12:16 PM

Probably the easiest solution is to press your seams open. They don't nest together quite as well but a pin usually does the trick.

EvelynJ 06-21-2012 12:25 PM

I usually try to press all of my seams open when possible and if my seam is off (I know they are) I just try to hold the pieces until they are as lined up as possible (some never will be) and just pass it really slowly through my sewing machine. Just remember quilting is fun and if someone wanted perfection hand made is not the way to go. LOL

sewmary 06-21-2012 12:41 PM

I always press seams open now on my quilting. Always did it for clothes sewing and don't know why I didn't continue. It is really easy to match seams when they are pressed open.

Scissor Queen 06-21-2012 12:59 PM

Back up 6 feet or so. Can you still see it? If you can't, then don't worry about it so much.

DawnFurlong 06-21-2012 01:08 PM

I sometimes have that problem too. I really try to plan out how I press my seams so that I get nesting seams. But when that doesn't work out so well, I usually choose to flip one seam in the opposing direction and finger press, then pin. However, after more reading about everyone's preferences regarding pressing the seams to one side or open - I am seriously considering trying out open on my next quilt.

kd7kyo 06-21-2012 01:11 PM

the way i have heard how to fix and get seams to nest is on the 9 patch you iron the seams to go to the left of the line and then next row goes to the right. and then flips when you put the block together the seams will "lock" or "nest" into place.

Another way that is gaining popularity is pressing them open. I used to do this and had great results. but my dear old mentor at quilting lectured me in the not to press open.

judy363905 06-21-2012 01:20 PM

This may not be the "correct" way to overcome this issue... but .. I just re-press about 1/2" of the offending seam... nest .... sew and then clip the seam allowance I sewed to allow it to return to original position..I use the pinwheel method to flatten the joined seams of the 4 connecting blocks...this works for me be it wrong or right... :)

Judy in Phx, AZ

kathy 06-21-2012 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by judy363905 (Post 5306524)
This may not be the "correct" way to overcome this issue... but .. I just re-press about 1/2" of the offending seam... nest .... sew and then clip the seam allowance I sewed to allow it to return to original position..I use the pinwheel method to flatten the joined seams of the 4 connecting blocks...this works for me be it wrong or right... :)

Judy in Phx, AZ

that's exactly how I do it

Silver Needle 06-21-2012 01:33 PM

I have changed to pressing seams open also. It has improved my piecing 100%. I stick a pin straight through where the stitching is, 1/4 from the edge. Then making sure the pin is seated perfectly straight (not tipped up or down) in both pieces, I put a pin in the right seam allowance. I sew right up to the pin when stitching so the left half of the seam is anchored. Remove the pin and go til the next one. Not as tedious as it sounds....but if you hate pinning this method is not for you. I get a group of blocks ready then sit in the recliner in front of the TV and pin as large a group as possible. You must treat the blocks gently though or the seams will come unstitched at the edge. As long as it isn't more than 1/4" you are ok. I use a pretty short stitch length when sewing.

nativetexan 06-21-2012 01:36 PM

sometimes you can just turn one nine patch to make the seams nestle. if not, flip it by hand, sew and then later press it down again the new way!

alisonquilts 06-21-2012 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by DawnFurlong (Post 5306507)
I sometimes have that problem too. I really try to plan out how I press my seams so that I get nesting seams. But when that doesn't work out so well, I usually choose to flip one seam in the opposing direction and finger press, then pin.

This is what I do too. I love the nesting effect of alternate seams. Also, pressed-to-the-side seams seem less likely to have batting fuzz through them as time goes by.

Alison

Kitsie 06-21-2012 01:59 PM

Yeah, me too. Nothing wrong with "flipping" the seam to make it nest.


Originally Posted by judy363905 (Post 5306524)
This may not be the "correct" way to overcome this issue... but .. I just re-press about 1/2" of the offending seam... nest .... sew and then clip the seam allowance I sewed to allow it to return to original position..I use the pinwheel method to flatten the joined seams of the 4 connecting blocks...this works for me be it wrong or right... :)

Judy in Phx, AZ


mucky 06-21-2012 02:08 PM

I don't do a lot od seam pressing until assembling the blocks and then put them whichever way they work. My goal is to sew a top with all the seams correct. Haven't accomplished it yet!

StacyMae 06-21-2012 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Scissor Queen (Post 5306488)
Back up 6 feet or so. Can you still see it? If you can't, then don't worry about it so much.


Lol, that is my general philosophy as well :) Although, I was always told to press to one side I may have to try open.

Kat Sews 06-21-2012 03:52 PM

You could try pinning the seams exactly in the stitching of the two pieces, then sew up to the pin as close as possible before pulling it out. I works in a pinch when repressing the seam the other way will cause problems on the next row.

joyce888 06-21-2012 04:11 PM

I press almost all of my seams open for that very reason. I find it's so much easier to match seams and I never get a tuck at the intersection.

Tartan 06-21-2012 06:02 PM

I just finished a lap size top in D9P too and ran into the same problem. I pressed all my seams the same on the original 9patches but when I cut them and turned them, some ended up with the seams going the same way and some not. I just went ahead and sewed them the way they were
pressed. It worked fine but the part that bugs me is that even though I measured the center line carefully some of the cornerstones are not lining up with the next block. Oh well, maybe the next one quilt top will be perfect. I've been saying that for the last 20 years I think.

babalu 06-21-2012 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Scissor Queen (Post 5306488)
Back up 6 feet or so. Can you still see it? If you can't, then don't worry about it so much.

Perfect! Thanks...this is what I'm going with! (I really am NOT a perfectionist...not even close. I just didn't want to think I missing something obvious!)

b.zang 06-21-2012 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by judy363905 (Post 5306524)
This may not be the "correct" way to overcome this issue... but .. I just re-press about 1/2" of the offending seam... nest .... sew and then clip the seam allowance I sewed to allow it to return to original position..I use the pinwheel method to flatten the joined seams of the 4 connecting blocks...this works for me be it wrong or right... :)

Good explanation. Sometimes I will also take the time to reinforce the stitching where I've clipped the seam allowance.

burchquilts 06-22-2012 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by GemState (Post 5306397)
Probably the easiest solution is to press your seams open. They don't nest together quite as well but a pin usually does the trick.

I always press my seams open & this is the reason why. I wish I had a fix for you, but I just don't. Sorry...

teddysmom 06-22-2012 04:04 AM

I have that same issue. My problem is that I hand piece and hand quilt. I was told NOT to press the seams open because hand pieced don't hold to tension bein placed on them. Any hand quilters who press the seams open? It would certainly make matching seams much easier.

lfletcher 06-22-2012 04:07 AM

I make a small clip in one of the seams about 1" down and then press this to the other side. I don't like to press seams open as I do a lot of stitching in the ditch and if the seam is pressed open, you are just quilting the threads not the fabric.

Rose Marie 06-22-2012 07:19 AM

I saw this trick on a show once.
If a seam will not line up right take a piece of 1/2 in scotch tape and with both fabric seams in alignment tape togather then fold in half and sew. You have a perfect 1/4 in seam and your seams are in alignment.

judy363905 06-22-2012 08:00 AM

Kathy... you do not know how happy this makes me to hear :)

PS we returned from Texas on Tuesday ...lovely visit with family.....very high humidity....can home to 112 degree Dry Heat... but still hot.
Judy in Phx, AZ

Originally Posted by kathy (Post 5306527)
that's exactly how I do it


rrhaigh 06-22-2012 08:09 AM

I was always told not to press seams open when making a quilt. I was told the seams are not as strong when pressed open. So, I never even tried it. For those of you who do press seams open, have you had any issues with quilts that ar used and washed a lot?

Rose_P 06-22-2012 08:43 AM

Right now I'm having a similar problem with a D4P, and whenever I can, I switch one of the seams back the other way so it will nest. It's annoying to have to do this, but usually a little pressing stick is all that's needed. So far I haven't found any on a D4P that couldn't be done this way. On the D9P there may be a difference. If you can work out where the problem is going to occur, maybe you can decide to just press just those seams open.

I have better luck with nesting seams because I avoid pinning whenever I can - just me. Whether to press open or not also depends on what you're planning to do with the quilt. If it's going to get a lot of use and washing, open seams are not as strong because there's nothing between the two pieces except the thread.

However, Bonnie Hunter, who makes lots of strip pieced quilts, says on Quiltville somewhere that she presses hers open. That's enough of a reason to do it that way, as far as I'm concerned. I love her work!

MacThayer 06-22-2012 11:01 AM

I press all my seams open, and have never had a problem with wear and tear. Of course, I use a very short stitch while piecing, and I'm careful to press the seam closed (to bury the stitch), and then press them open. When doing stitch-in-the-ditch, I will also fortify with a stitch on one or the other side, or both, or some echo stitching. Just my way. A little extra quilting and pinning is worth it to me to have my points line up. To each her/his own!

cjackaitlin 06-22-2012 11:29 AM

Thanks for the tip Judy, we all seem to have the same problem. I will try your fix on my next quilt. Mary

MadQuilter 06-22-2012 11:38 AM

When I did my DP9 there were no seams to match. That's the beauty of the DP9 for me. As for the rows, I always press in alternating directions. That way the rows nest into each other.

BellaBoo 06-22-2012 11:50 AM

Open seam presser here too. So much easier and no fold over bulk.

sept97 06-23-2012 02:53 AM

I was told not to press seams open when making a quilt. They said it's stronger to press them to one side. Not sure which way is correct now, lol

bobquilt3 06-23-2012 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by EvelynJ (Post 5306414)
I usually try to press all of my seams open when possible and if my seam is off (I know they are) I just try to hold the pieces until they are as lined up as possible (some never will be) and just pass it really slowly through my sewing machine. Just remember quilting is fun and if someone wanted perfection hand made is not the way to go. LOL

That does make to easier but be sure to use good thread. The thread will have to take the full stress of holding the entire quilt together.

coopah 06-23-2012 03:54 AM

I haven't done the D9P, but imagine lots of seams intersecting. I learned never, ever to press open on quilts;that's for clothing. BUT, reading this Board, it seems many do press open adn don't have trouble. Recently my LQS offered a class that had us making a bazillion (not really, but seemed like it) pinwheels. All stitched to one another. Mega seam time, so I did press the seams open between the rows to help it lay flat. Rules were made to be broken, right?

southernmema 06-23-2012 04:31 AM

Very good information here.

Morag 06-23-2012 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by kd7kyo (Post 5306513)
the way i have heard how to fix and get seams to nest is on the 9 patch you iron the seams to go to the left of the line and then next row goes to the right. and then flips when you put the block together the seams will "lock" or "nest" into place.

Another way that is gaining popularity is pressing them open. I used to do this and had great results. but my dear old mentor at quilting lectured me in the not to press open.

I agree and do the same. I was told from day one in learning quilting that to open the seams weakens the quilt at those seams and could cause them to come apart over time.
But, as always, we do what we think is best for us...it is our creation after all:)

lovestosew 06-23-2012 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by MadQuilter (Post 5308892)
When I did my DP9 there were no seams to match. That's the beauty of the DP9 for me. As for the rows, I always press in alternating directions. That way the rows nest into each other.

I just finished a full DP9 and also had no seams to match, and did the same things with the rows.

anita211 06-23-2012 05:08 AM

I, too, iron it the right way so it nests, and then clip it. It shouldn't make a whole lot of difference, but it does. I prefer to iron the seams to the side. I learned that way, because of polyester batting working its way through the seam line. However, I use mostly cotton batting now, so could press them open. I might have to have a new learning curve!

psthreads 06-23-2012 05:19 AM

I am going to try pressing my seams open next. I started out that way and was told it was wrong. But I see alot of you do it.


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