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Joeysnana 05-13-2010 02:03 PM

The stitches on the underside of my quilts are always shorter than the stitches on the top of the quilt. I use a rocking motion and load 4 stitches onto the needle and usually get 8 to 10 stitches to the inch. How do you get the stitches on the back of the quilt to be the same length as the stitches on the front? Any suggestions? TIA

sewcrafty 05-13-2010 02:19 PM

Practice, practice, practice!!! One thing that I used when I first started quilting was tiger tape. It helps in getting used to when to go down and when to come up. I found it very useful.

Joeysnana 05-13-2010 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by sewcrafty
Practice, practice, practice!!! One thing that I used when I first started quilting was tiger tape. It helps in getting used to when to go down and when to come up. I found it very useful.

What is tiger tape?

kayquilt 05-13-2010 02:27 PM

She's right about the practice, practice, practice. I also found out that if I am able to make really small stitches on the front then the little stitches on the back even it out. I have found that if I use really thin batting that this makes it easier. A small needle makes it easier too. I usually use either a size 11 or 12. Recently while quilting with a group of ladies, one of them was in need in of a needle. I gave her one of mine and she was amazed at how much easier it was to use instead of the larger size she had been using.

Joeysnana 05-13-2010 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by kayquilt
She's right about the practice, practice, practice. I also found out that if I am able to make really small stitches on the front then the little stitches on the back even it out. I have found that if I use really thin batting that this makes it easier. A small needle makes it easier too. I usually use either a size 11 or 12. Recently while quilting with a group of ladies, one of them was in need in of a needle. I gave her one of mine and she was amazed at how much easier it was to use instead of the larger size she had been using.

I have always used a 10 needle. I think I will give an 11 or a 12 a try. Thanks!

kayquilt 05-13-2010 02:41 PM

This small size was a challenge at first, but after I used it for awhile it got easier. Good luck!!

roseOfsharon 05-13-2010 02:45 PM

I have not tried hand quilting , something I would like to do on a small piece. What is Tiger Tape? Please pm the answer so I will get it. :) Thanks Sharon

sueisallaboutquilts 05-13-2010 02:46 PM

Ditto all the above comments. I use a 10 or 12 also. And practice helps a lot. I love to hand quilt. It is my favorite part of the quilt process. Very relaxing for me :) Good luck!

maryb119 05-13-2010 02:49 PM

Practice is the best way to get them the same. It took a long time for my stitches to be even.

feline fanatic 05-13-2010 03:54 PM

I don't strive for perfection on the back. I usually have some kind of patterned fabric on the back so stitches don't show as much. What I am looking for is the texture and a kind of shadowing of the design. I know I certainly won't have a show quilt with this attitude but I don't quilt for awards I quilt to make me happy. If it looks good on the front I am happy.

Hinterland 05-13-2010 03:57 PM

When I push the needle down to make the stitch, I try to have the needle at a 90 degree angle with the quilt - so the needle is going straight down. That helps make the stitches on the back the same length as the front. If it goes in at an angle then the back stitches are smaller.

I'm happy if the back stitches look nice, without too many that are too long or too short, and the top ones are even. It's a bonus if the back and front are the same size!

Janet

ckcowl 05-13-2010 04:01 PM

tiger tape is a tape with little marks on it it is narrow, like 1/4" or 1/8th" wide and you can get it with the marks from 4-12 per inch, it bends, or gives you nice straight lines, you place it along your quilting lines then use the marks as a guide to make your stitches...helps learn to be consistant, make your stitches even...is available in most quilt shops, or joannes type stores,and is inexpensive.

JanieW 05-13-2010 04:06 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-WvF...eature=related

zz-pd 05-13-2010 04:43 PM

One of these day I want to learn to do that. God bless. Penny

sewcrafty 05-13-2010 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by Joeysnana

Originally Posted by sewcrafty
Practice, practice, practice!!! One thing that I used when I first started quilting was tiger tape. It helps in getting used to when to go down and when to come up. I found it very useful.

What is tiger tape?

Its a 1/4" tape that is sticky and you put it on fabric. It has black and white lines on it. It comes in different stitch lengths.

Borntohandquilt 05-13-2010 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by Hinterland
When I push the needle down to make the stitch, I try to have the needle at a 90 degree angle with the quilt - so the needle is going straight down. That helps make the stitches on the back the same length as the front. If it goes in at an angle then the back stitches are smaller.

I'm happy if the back stitches look nice, without too many that are too long or too short, and the top ones are even. It's a bonus if the back and front are the same size!

Janet

I second this completely! The angle is the most important thing. Of course the material you use (fabric and batting) influence the look of your quilting stiches.

Gal 05-14-2010 01:16 AM

I am a beginner and have discovered hand quilting, I think it is the best part of making a quilt!!!!! I have found that if I try to make my stitches too small then the back suffers, if I go for even and straight stitches rather than trying to get tiny ones then the back looks a whole lot better. I believe and trust those experienced hand quilters who say that with practice you will get smaller stitches and through practice the back will equal the front.

Gal

P-BurgKay 05-14-2010 04:50 AM

Amen to that. If I am happy that is what counts.

Joeysnana 05-14-2010 06:28 AM

Thanks everyone for all of your comments. I so appreciate the help. I think I will try a smaller needle, piercing the quilt at a 90 degree angle, and not worrying about it. If my stitches improve, great. If not, so what. Quilting makes my heart "sing." :)

Borntohandquilt 05-14-2010 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Joeysnana
Thanks everyone for all of your comments. I so appreciate the help. I think I will try a smaller needle, piercing the quilt at a 90 degree angle, and not worrying about it. If my stitches improve, great. If not, so what. Quilting makes my heart "sing." :)

And my soul sings, too!

:thumbup:

mimee4 05-14-2010 07:32 AM

Years ago, the "older" ladies (and I am now 70) who taught me to handquilt used needles as small as 14s. So their stitches were sooooo tiny. I have never accomplished that. Do keep trying and practice. You will get to the size you want and it will be easy.

Borntohandquilt 05-14-2010 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by mimee4
Years ago, the "older" ladies (and I am now 70) who taught me to handquilt used needles as small as 14s. So their stitches were sooooo tiny. I have never accomplished that. Do keep trying and practice. You will get to the size you want and it will be easy.

Ohhh.... 14s? Are you talking about a SIZE 14? I've never heard about that, the smallest I know are size 12...

:roll:

needlenut 05-15-2010 02:31 AM

I too love hand quilting. I use a 14" hoop, size 11 or 12 needle, and a small jewelry pair of pliers. This way I can fill the tiny needle full of stitches making them more even and pulling through with pliers keeps my fingers from being sore.

Carol W 05-15-2010 03:31 AM

Great tips!!

shaverg 05-15-2010 06:04 AM

I have hand quilted for 27+ years. I also do rocking and get 9-11 to the inch. My stitches on the back are always a little smaller. That is ok, as long as they are even.

CAROLJ 05-15-2010 07:19 AM

I agree with the 90' advice. My stitches are better when I make sure the needle is vertical as I stitch. If the needle goes in at a slant the stitches on the bottom tend to be off.

the red wyoming rose 05-15-2010 08:45 AM

It is tape with lines on it to help measure the size of the stitch you make mos QS have it roefrench

hilda Vest 05-15-2010 09:18 AM

If you're getting 8-l0 stitches per inch, that is beautiful. The important thing about the wrong side is that you have made the contact. Frankly, i wouldn't worry about having both sides the same. For me, that would be very difficult.

Borntohandquilt 05-15-2010 09:56 AM

Another question: Do you care for the number of stiches you do per inch or not?

Hinterland 05-15-2010 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Borntohandquilt
Another question: Do you care for the number of stiches you do per inch or not?

I do care - I try for 10-12, and I try for even. If I make it, great, if I don't, well, it won't ruin my day!

I figure if I try for small stitches most people won't notice if they aren't even. :)

Janet

Gabbystabber 05-15-2010 10:31 AM

If you have trouble using the smaller needle...thread several sizes and just use each needle as needed. When I did not know what size needle I was using ...no stress...and I could use all sizes. I think the tiny needle has you giving up before you use it. It did for me. Anyway, this worked for me. Hand quilting, you go girl!
Donna

Joeysnana 05-15-2010 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by Borntohandquilt
Another question: Do you care for the number of stiches you do per inch or not?

I'm just getting back into quilting and right now I care more about the size of the stitches. In time with practice I hope to get them more even, but right now I figure if they are small I can't see if they are even or not!! The eyes are not as young as they once were!! ;-)

lfw045 05-15-2010 12:39 PM

For me it is so much easier to not use a hoop when hand quilting.

Lyn4ty 05-15-2010 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by lfw045
For me it is so much easier to not use a hoop when hand quilting.

I don't like to use a hoop either if my project is small. Are you just holding the layers in your hand or is there some other way you do it? Curious what other's do.

kayquilt 05-15-2010 02:59 PM

I have found that when hand quilting that the fabric should not be really taut in the hoop. That is what I was doing when I started hand quilting and it was really difficult to make stitches. Since then I have learned that it should be a little loose. When I put the "quilt sandwich" in the hoop I first get it sort of taut and then loosen it a bit after I tighten the screw a little bit by pushing down gently so there is a bit of a sag. This makes it so much eaiser to rock the needle. At the Houston Quilt Show some years ago I witnessed an oriental lady demonstrating how she quilted and was amazed how "saggy" her fabric was. And she was able to make really small stitches. She was marvelous.

lfw045 05-15-2010 03:08 PM

I just have one hand underneath to help guide the needle and feel for wrinkles. I keep a finger cot on my left thumb(left handed) and a leather thimble on my middle finger and go for it! The finger cot helps pull the needle through multiple stitches on the needle and the leather thimble pushes the needle also. Works for me anyway...lol.

Lyn4ty 05-15-2010 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by lfw045
I just have one hand underneath to help guide the needle and feel for wrinkles. I keep a finger cot on my left thumb(left handed) and a leather thimble on my middle finger and go for it! The finger cot helps pull the needle through multiple stitches on the needle and the leather thimble pushes the needle also. Works for me anyway...lol.

sounds a lot like I quilt. Haven't done it in a long while, but all this talk of hand quilting is making me want to do it again.

grandma Janice 05-15-2010 04:30 PM

I have always used a size 8 betweens. I bought a package of 10 betweens but I couldn't thread them with the hand quilting thread. I even tried to use a needle threader but it wouldn't go through the eye. can anyone tell me why? and do you have that trouble?

kayquilt 05-15-2010 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by grandma Janice
I have always used a size 8 betweens. I bought a package of 10 betweens but I couldn't thread them with the hand quilting thread. I even tried to use a needle threader but it wouldn't go through the eye. can anyone tell me why? and do you have that trouble?

Different brands have different sized eyes. Roxanne #11 betweens have a larger eye than the John James #11 sharps. I just checked my supply.

Joeysnana 05-15-2010 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by grandma Janice
I have always used a size 8 betweens. I bought a package of 10 betweens but I couldn't thread them with the hand quilting thread. I even tried to use a needle threader but it wouldn't go through the eye. can anyone tell me why? and do you have that trouble?

I use a needle threader that I bought from the Clover website. Joann's also sells it. Doesn't matter what brand of needle I use, I have to use my needle threader!


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