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Nona 08-19-2010 06:47 AM

ok here's my guess. Yes your machine has computer board. You see the screen where it shows the stich etc...That is driven by a computer board. When was the last time you oiled the machine. There is only one or two places on a machine with a computer board. My next guess is to disassemble the bobbin section of the machine. Sometimes thread gets caught where you never expect it. Take off the needle plate and inspect for any fuzz or thread around the feed dogs. Try shifting the wheel on the right back and forth for any movement. Last of all go on Singer's website and see if there is a forum about tips etc. You might get real lucking. If all else failes take it to a good Singer repair facility. Depending on how much you paid for the machine make a judgement call. Unfortunately, that is why most of us have at least one backup machine in a crisis. Good luck and let all of us know what happens.

catrancher 08-19-2010 07:12 AM

How long since you oiled it?

user15356 08-19-2010 08:15 AM

google your machine and ask the manufacturer.

Jude 08-19-2010 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Aully

Originally Posted by dakotamaid
If it has computer parts, turn it off and turn it back on.

No computer parts.

It surely looks computerized to me. They're testy buggers. If you bought it from a dealer, I'd suggest calling/visiting him. Since "sleeping on it" hasn't helped - nor any of the other suggestions - maybe a good round of cuss words and a kick. I'm just sayin'.............

hereca622 08-19-2010 08:50 AM

Hi,
On the picture, your Stop/Start button is red. That button is for sewing without the foot pedal. Make sure that it is off. Also, I noticed that your speed indicator is all the way on turtle. Try moving it to rabbit. That is all I have.
I took one of my machines back to the store,because the feed dogs would not come up. You have to turn the wheel to lift them. DUHHHH. I was soooo embarrassed.
If you live near a quilting store, you may be able to get a new set of eyes on it, especially if they happen to sell Singers. Shop owners and quilting customers are very helpful at times.

Lady Diana 08-19-2010 09:25 AM

Does it work when pushing in the start stop button for sewing, or is it only when you have the foot pedal plugged in?

Also what is the "88" mode that you have it set on?

Were you doing Free motion prior to it stopping?

Take out bobbin case, could be thread inside of the case,
Oil the "wick" in the center of the bobbin case area. Do Not take the wick out....it looks like lint (white) so DO NOT TAKE IT OUT. A few drops of good sewing machine oil is all you need.

Also, what model is this machine can't tell from the photo?

I hope you try all of the suggestions and let us know how you are doing today.
Diana in TX

butterflyquilter 08-19-2010 09:42 AM

I'm sorry to hear you're having trouble. I have a computerized one that says error and no repair man so far knows what to do to fix it.

BellaBoo 08-19-2010 09:57 AM

It could be the belt has broken. If you can get the top off the belt will be easy to see. Don't take the wheel off or apart. It has to many maze parts that have to fit just right. Please post what it takes to get if fixed. I'm keeping a file on machine troubleshooting.

leamelon 08-19-2010 10:33 AM

I would take it to a repair they probably won't charge you much maybe free this has happened to many of us I am sure (rather than break something else) leamelon

Aully 08-19-2010 10:53 AM

I got the machine last year for my birthday in March from my boyfriend Brian. It is from Costco, The make is Singer and model numer is 4166. You can not disable the start stop button you just use the foot pedal to sew instead. I have taken the bobin area all appart and cleaned it, I have not oiled it lately. Maybe it got tired of me using it for the 2 hours straight. lol! I don't have anything magnetic aroung my machine just metal which are my sewing scisors. I have looked on the Singer website and they don't even have my machine on it, nothing in the forums either. I will try calling the 800 number tonight. I have been so stressed out with this that I have been sick with a migraine ever since. :( Thanks everyone for all your wounderful replys.

Shelia 08-19-2010 11:23 AM

This happened to one of my machines...turned out it was the timing. I chose not to have it repaired as my machine was not all that expensive. It would have cost almost as much to have it fixed as the cost of the machine!

nursie76 08-19-2010 12:42 PM

Sorry that all this has brought on a migraine. Hope you feel better soon, and that you find someone to help you with your machine problem.

Aully 08-19-2010 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by nursie76
Sorry that all this has brought on a migraine. Hope you feel better soon, and that you find someone to help you with your machine problem.

Thanks it's not your fault though. :)

nwm50 08-19-2010 01:40 PM

I still say~~~~ Whack it.............okay, okay...im not helping! Ask Billy on lostn51, don't know if he knows newer machine but it wouldn't hurt to ask. I have an FW and 306 so they"re pretty realible! In fact i just started using the 306 today....kinda made me nervous..those double slanted needle and cams,etc....

alica1367 08-19-2010 01:51 PM

A friend of mine had that happen. When she took it to be serviced, he told her thread had gotten wound up and tangled in the tension area. Does the left side open so you can see where the thread goes when your threading the machine? If so, check to see if you have a birds nest of thread wrapped around something in there.

aardvarq 08-19-2010 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Aully

Originally Posted by nursie76
Sorry that all this has brought on a migraine. Hope you feel better soon, and that you find someone to help you with your machine problem.

Thanks it's not your fault though. :)

There has to be a computer reset button somewhere . . . Is the power button that turns it on a toggle type button or a push and spring back type button?

If toggle, like most, no help there.

Maybe if you hold the stop start button and count to about ten slowly, it will reset the motherboard memory.

On my non-Singer: I turn the machine off, hold the stop/start and another button down WHILE turning on the power switch/button.

Have you tried something like that yet?

The fact that the needle goes up and down by hand-turn means most of the gears/belts are ok.

Humm

Aardie.

enerod 08-19-2010 02:10 PM

see what happens if you unplug the foot petal and just use the start/stop button? I can only use that btton, but sometimes someone plugs in a foot and I get this same red light and nothing works.

MiMi in Lutz 08-19-2010 02:55 PM

Singers do have a habit of doing what your mashine has done if thread is stuck down under the bobbin case area. I would take out everything I could and look and also while it is apart as much as possible use your vacumm cleaner and suck it out even if you do not see anything. It could be the tiniest bit of thread stuck down in there. Do NOT use canned air to try to clean it out. That only pushes stuff further inside it. And Say a Prayer...God always helps me :)

starlight 08-19-2010 03:35 PM

Had this happen to one of mine and it was the belt. Hope that is not the cause though.

sgraves1959 08-19-2010 03:46 PM

looks like it says start and stop

Originally Posted by nursie76
Does it sew with a foot control on the floor? Unplug that and replug it in making sure it is in securely. What does it say under the red light? I can't make it out.

looks like it says stop ans start

gblake 08-19-2010 06:05 PM

Guess you better hunt a singer dealer.

wildyard 08-19-2010 07:03 PM

LOL nwm50, I would have whacked the dang thing a good many times by now!!!

smithgz 08-19-2010 07:07 PM

I had one to do the same thing so i took the cover off where you have your wheel and found out that the belt was striched out got anew belt and she work fine.

DonnaB 08-19-2010 07:07 PM

My Pfaff did very same thing yesterday, I finally just tromped on the foot pedal a couple of times and it started sewing. Might be a short in pedal. Good luck! Costco is pretty good about returning things even after a year.

pstoner 08-19-2010 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by Aully
Hell everyone,
I am very sad My Singer 4166 is frozen on me and I can not for the life of me figure out what is wrong with it. It won't sew anything the feed dogs won't even move. The red light will not turn off. I still have the instruction book there are NO troubleshotting tips. I took it appart and cleaned it out but it was empty. I am so confused any ideas anyone please.

I have so many swaps to get done soon, I really need my machine to be able too. :(

PLEASE I am begging/Crying out loud for HELP! Thanks!

Sounds like what my Singer just went through. I took it in, and the repair man said that sometimes the belt slips off inside. Is it under warranty? He had to crack the case, fix the belt and put it back together, he had it four days and it's ready for pick up. I don't know if that's the answer, hopefully its something much more simple.

penski 08-19-2010 07:16 PM

did you check to see if maybe you broke a piece of the needle off in it , i broke a needle once and the tip of it was jammed down in the machine and it wouldnt budge

are you plugged in?

just a thought

pstoner 08-19-2010 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by aardvarq

Originally Posted by Aully

Originally Posted by nursie76
Sorry that all this has brought on a migraine. Hope you feel better soon, and that you find someone to help you with your machine problem.

Thanks it's not your fault though. :)

There has to be a computer reset button somewhere . . . Is the power button that turns it on a toggle type button or a push and spring back type button?

If toggle, like most, no help there.

Maybe if you hold the stop start button and count to about ten slowly, it will reset the motherboard memory.

On my non-Singer: I turn the machine off, hold the stop/start and another button down WHILE turning on the power switch/button.

Have you tried something like that yet?

The fact that the needle goes up and down by hand-turn means most of the gears/belts are ok.

Humm

Aardie.

Darn it, did Bill Gates have something to do with the sewing computer board...how many buttons did you say that you have to hold to reset...like Control, Alt, Delete.

Seriously though, make sure you have the proof of purchase, it you don't then you need to send a copy of serial number, receipt to Singer repair service center (through the 800 number)-hopefully they get the name, address, and everything correct. Take it to (or may have to send to repair center with a copy of your proof of purchase letter-which you need to get from singer).

Good luck, I know exactly what you mean, devastated. Even though I have others to use, I missed my Singer 7469Q so bad while it's been gone.

IBQUILTIN 08-19-2010 11:57 PM

Can you google Sewing machine troubleshooting? There is a website where this really nice man answers questions, if he can't answer you from there, he asks you to call him so he can walk you through the fix. Just a nice man trying to help, but I can't remember the link. I found it on BING.com

Annya 08-20-2010 01:58 AM

Is it still under guarantee. Maybe you can return it and get them to check it out free. It is worth asking you dealer any way. Maybe the dealer knows a bit about the machine and will look at it for you. I don't have a Singer so that is all I can do for you. Sorry.

PATTIESPEARL 08-20-2010 03:39 AM

go to singerco.com then click on c'contace US" they have an 800 number you can call and talk to a real person. they can tell you what to do.

nwm50 08-20-2010 06:04 AM

;) to wildyard response

butterflywing 08-20-2010 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by Aully
I got the machine last year for my birthday in March from my boyfriend Brian. It is from Costco, The make is Singer and model numer is 4166. You can not disable the start stop button you just use the foot pedal to sew instead. I have taken the bobin area all appart and cleaned it, I have not oiled it lately. Maybe it got tired of me using it for the 2 hours straight. lol! I don't have anything magnetic aroung my machine just metal which are my sewing scisors. I have looked on the Singer website and they don't even have my machine on it, nothing in the forums either. I will try calling the 800 number tonight. I have been so stressed out with this that I have been sick with a migraine ever since. :( Thanks everyone for all your wounderful replys.

sad to say, the ones from costco are numbered differently. they're still fine, but with different model numbers so even if you could email singer i doubt if they would know the real model number and it's hard to track down answers to problems. however, you'll never get an answer out of singer anyway. i'm still waiting for a reply to a message i left with them when i bought my garage sale find about three weeks ago. i vote for a repair man. it's always been my experience that no matter how simple it is, it costs more than it should, but what can you do? get an estimate first. sometimes you're better off putting the money toward a new one. especially if it's really frozen. btw, how come you're oiling a computerized machine? does it say that in the manual? just curious.

nursie76 08-21-2010 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by butterflywing
btw, how come you're oiling a computerized machine? does it say that in the manual? just curious.

Butterflywing - I know, sounds odd doesn't it? But I have a Bernina 730 and it needs oil, but only in one place, the place where the bobbin fits and the stitch is formed...I think it is called the "hook" or something like that. Guess that is because there is a lot of movement of metal parts while forming the stitch. Go figure 8-)

PATTIESPEARL 08-21-2010 08:25 AM

I have always gotten a reply from singerco.com. They have been good to me like that.

butterflywing 08-21-2010 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by nursie76

Originally Posted by butterflywing
btw, how come you're oiling a computerized machine? does it say that in the manual? just curious.

Butterflywing - I know, sounds odd doesn't it? But I have a Bernina 730 and it needs oil, but only in one place, the place where the bobbin fits and the stitch is formed...I think it is called the "hook" or something like that. Guess that is because there is a lot of movement of metal parts while forming the stitch. Go figure 8-)

you're right. that's the one place. never in the machine in any of my machines.

ibeesewin 08-21-2010 01:07 PM

The red light that you say is not coming on, does that indicate that there is an electrical current going to your machine. If indicates "power" and it is not coming on then it sounds like your machine is not receiving the electrical current.
Try plugging a blow dryer into the same plug as your machine is plugged into.
You may have blown a circuit...or a fuse. Or there may be something wrong with your foot pedal.
If you are able to hand turn your needle to go up and down then it sounds like all is intack in that department.
Sorry for you problems. I can not sew for a week but let my machine be in the shop and I have all kinds of projects that I want to work on.
Good luck..
Lynn

nursie76 08-21-2010 01:25 PM

I think she said that the red light is blinking like crazy...but I will have to read through the back posts to be sure. Isn't it frustrating when something that new, should work but for some unexplained reason, just stops working? I would not have been so patient, I would probably have whacked it several times by now!

ibeesewin 08-21-2010 03:14 PM

Yup Nursie...you are right the red light is stuck on. So much for that theory...

Nona 08-21-2010 06:33 PM

most of the machines today which have a computer screen only need oil in the bobbin hook.

Gramma 08-22-2010 11:43 AM

Make sure the cord is pushed in tight to the machine and/or the wall. My hand wheel was hard to turn & it was not pushed completely in at the machine. Just a thought!


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