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Aully 08-17-2010 04:05 PM

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Hell everyone,
I am very sad My Singer 4166 is frozen on me and I can not for the life of me figure out what is wrong with it. It won't sew anything the feed dogs won't even move. The red light will not turn off. I still have the instruction book there are NO troubleshotting tips. I took it appart and cleaned it out but it was empty. I am so confused any ideas anyone please.

I have so many swaps to get done soon, I really need my machine to be able too. :(

PLEASE I am begging/Crying out loud for HELP! Thanks!

My Singer 4166
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Instruction manual
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Singer 4166
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nursie76 08-17-2010 04:07 PM

When my machines do that it means the the thread got all tangled up in the bobbin area, but since you said you cleaned that all out, I can't think what else it might be. Does your knob on the right (the one that manually moves your needle up and down) move?

quiltlady37 08-17-2010 04:12 PM

I was at a quilt retreat with a friend once and her machine acted like that. We did everything and then I noticed that she had the bobbin pin on top pushed over as if she were going to wind a bobbin. We moved it back in the right postition and her machine sewed like a dream. Hope this helps.

krabadan 08-17-2010 04:18 PM

I had a similar issue and the thread was wound around the wheel. It accidently was caught in there from the thread stand.

dakotamaid 08-17-2010 04:18 PM

If it has computer parts, turn it off and turn it back on.

quiltinghere 08-17-2010 04:22 PM

Is the needle lever down? Maybe it doesn't work with it UP.

Unplug it and plug back in.

Check the knob on the right...(I forget what it's called)

Jingle 08-17-2010 04:37 PM

One of my Juki TL98QE did this, nothing worked but the light, had to take it for a repair and cleaning, just needed some ajusting and cleaning and oiling where I couldn't reach. Didn't need any parts and had worked perfectly the night before.

AnnaK 08-17-2010 05:02 PM

Let us know if any of the above worked. Sorry and I hope there is a simple solution.

Suzan Larrimore 08-17-2010 05:14 PM

Try hitting the reverse button. sometimes mine sticks. It makes a beeping sound and flashes it's lights. Drives me crazy.

Aully 08-17-2010 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by nursie76
When my machines do that it means the the thread got all tangled up in the bobbin area, but since you said you cleaned that all out, I can't think what else it might be. Does your knob on the right (the one that manually moves your needle up and down) move?

The knob on the right does move the needle.

Aully 08-17-2010 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by quiltlady37
I was at a quilt retreat with a friend once and her machine acted like that. We did everything and then I noticed that she had the bobbin pin on top pushed over as if she were going to wind a bobbin. We moved it back in the right postition and her machine sewed like a dream. Hope this helps.

Nope tryed that too!

Aully 08-17-2010 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by dakotamaid
If it has computer parts, turn it off and turn it back on.

No computer parts.

Aully 08-17-2010 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by quiltinghere
Is the needle lever down? Maybe it doesn't work with it UP.

Unplug it and plug back in.

Check the knob on the right...(I forget what it's called)

Tryed all that. Still not working :(

Aully 08-17-2010 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by Suzan Larrimore
Try hitting the reverse button. sometimes mine sticks. It makes a beeping sound and flashes it's lights. Drives me crazy.

Nope not that either :(

nursie76 08-17-2010 05:31 PM

Does it sew with a foot control on the floor? Unplug that and replug it in making sure it is in securely. What does it say under the red light? I can't make it out.

Beebee 08-17-2010 05:31 PM

I noticed you said you had a manual, but no instructions on your problem. Sometimes if you get on line you can ask for the manual on your particular machine and maybe....just maybe there will be an answer in that on line manual...lots of luck

susie0808 08-17-2010 05:38 PM

You can also call the 800# in the manual if there is one. Sometimes speaking to someone can help. That is one of the reasons you asked us. Good luck.

leaha 08-17-2010 05:47 PM

ok have to ask as this happened to me, check that it is plugged in. Yep mine quit right in the middle of a seam, turned out the plug worked loose, color my face red when I took in to be repaired months later after I had saved up for the repaires! LOL

Tink's Mom 08-17-2010 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Aully

Originally Posted by dakotamaid
If it has computer parts, turn it off and turn it back on.

No computer parts.

Yes, this machine is computerized...unplug overnight or for a couple of hours....sometimes this will reset the machine. If you had used it for a couple of hours of sewing, it may have started to overheat and the machine will shut down so that it doesn't do damage.

lovequilts 08-17-2010 09:31 PM

Have you rethreaded it?

lindyline 08-18-2010 02:22 AM

Hey Ash, first take a deep breath, both in and out.

Turn off at machine and wall plug. Take every cord out, and then replug them.Rethread the machine, and change the bobbin. Sometimes my Singer stops because the (plastic)bobbin has a small nick in it, another time I didn't plug the foot pedal in properly, and yet another it overheated on an extremely hot day, after about 20 mins of sewing.
Hope this help.

Aully 08-18-2010 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by Tink's Mom

Originally Posted by Aully

Originally Posted by dakotamaid
If it has computer parts, turn it off and turn it back on.

No computer parts.

Yes, this machine is computerized...unplug overnight or for a couple of hours....sometimes this will reset the machine. If you had used it for a couple of hours of sewing, it may have started to overheat and the machine will shut down so that it doesn't do damage.

I left it unpluged all night. Still not working. :(

Aully 08-18-2010 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by lovequilts
Have you rethreaded it?

Yes many times.

Aully 08-18-2010 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by lindyline
Hey Ash, first take a deep breath, both in and out.

Turn off at machine and wall plug. Take every cord out, and then replug them.Rethread the machine, and change the bobbin. Sometimes my Singer stops because the (plastic)bobbin has a small nick in it, another time I didn't plug the foot pedal in properly, and yet another it overheated on an extremely hot day, after about 20 mins of sewing.
Hope this help.

Hey,
Breath I think I am forgetting that step lately. I will try your info when I get home today.
Thanks!

Joyce 08-18-2010 08:27 AM

Did you check the outlet to see if it is working?

Aully 08-18-2010 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by nursie76
Does it sew with a foot control on the floor? Unplug that and replug it in making sure it is in securely. What does it say under the red light? I can't make it out.

I do use the foot control. It says stop start.

Margie 08-18-2010 08:55 AM

Do you have the bobbin winder engaged?

Aully 08-18-2010 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Margie
Do you have the bobbin winder engaged?

nope

Tink's Mom 08-18-2010 05:04 PM

I can't think of anything else to troubleshoot with...I think you need to call in the big guns...BILLY?????

nwm50 08-18-2010 05:37 PM

WHACK IT ?????

nursie76 08-18-2010 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by nwm50
WHACK IT ?????

You're so funny! :lol: That is usually my final, last ditch solution too!

wvdek 08-18-2010 07:09 PM

Where did you purchasr the machine? Maybe call a sewing machine store and talk to a tech.

Since your machine is computerized, do you have anything magnetic within the machine area? Maybe the magent is making it go haywire.
Otherwise everything the others mentioned I would have suggested.
Good luck.

Norene B 08-18-2010 07:15 PM

Did an error number come up in the screen? You might check that if it does, then that number should be in your book. What ever you do, don't go to fixya.com. I got a virus there one time.

jazzy519 08-18-2010 07:17 PM

May have jumpped timing.

WilliP 08-18-2010 08:04 PM

Check on the Singer site for a dealer or authorized repair center and get the number and call them oir email Singer with the problem.

np3 08-18-2010 10:51 PM

Is this why we keep our old machines that aren't computerized?

OneMoreQuilt 08-18-2010 11:09 PM

The only other thing I can think to try would be to move the speed lever all the way to fast then back down to your comfortable sewing speed.
Good luck.

jacqueck 08-19-2010 02:13 AM

Aully, your machine needs to be oiled. Have you done so recently? If not, it might be frozen....not a good thing.
Good luck...how frustrating not to be able to sew when you want to.

Lyn 08-19-2010 04:24 AM

Did you hit a pin while sewing? I have done that before and it ruins the timing. You might want to take it to someone that works on sewing machines. My friend is a Pfaff dealer but he works on many different machines. Takes out all the guess work.

jal 08-19-2010 04:37 AM

I would suggest that you call Singer customer service. They are extremely helpful with answers and lots of patience. Their number (800) should be in your manual.


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