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Patti Mahoney 07-03-2011 05:09 AM

I am thinking about investing in a new sewing machine. Right now I'm working on my first quilt which is an English Paper Pieced Grandmother's Garden Hexagon hand stitched quilt. I've been working on it for 2 years, only taking a break now and then to do other things, not quilting. I currently have a Kenmore, basic model, I was 21 or 22 when I bought it. I'm now 54. It's never been serviced and it runs like a dream but it only has basic stitches and my ex took all of the attachments and owners manual when we divorced, lol. I can't find an owners manual anywhere or the attachments online or anywhere else. I even tried some older repair shops and they didn't have them either. My machine doesn't have a blanket stitch, only a few decorative stitches that some I can't figure out how to use. I've done alot of cross stitch and crochet before but I've haven't quilted anything on my machine, yet. I'm wondering if there is a particular machine that you all use and one that works well for you. I had my eye on a Singer but now I'm reading bad reviews and that alarms me. I've noticed that over the past week alot of the fabric stores, Walmart, Sears and JCPenney all have that machine on sale for almost 40% off which is telling me that they are trying to get rid of them. I happened to be in a well known fabric and craft store one evening and a lady was trying to return a machine and the sales lady gave her a world of grief over returning a sewing machine. After the lady with the machine purchase finally got mad and had to get ugly they agreed to take back the sewing machine. Then when the lady who had just returned the machine left the store another sales person ask her what she was going to do with the machine that was just returned, she stated, "repair and resell. WOW!, I thought. Now, I'm back to square one. I tried asking the fabric store that I frequent mostly but they are pushing a certain brand this month and the sales lady tried to talk me into buying one right there on the spot but when I went home and looked it up, that machine had alot of bad reviews AND the return policy on a sewing machine once you've taken it out of the box and set up to try, it's like pulling teeth to return it if something isn't working the way it should. So that's my dilimma. Can anyone give me a few pointers on what to look for and the best places to buy a machine or even what make and model to buy? I know sewing machines just like anything else in todays economy have a wide range of prices. I am willing to pay a descent price but not cut off an arm and a leg. I'm on a budget but I am willing to take a part time job in order to pay for a descent machine. I know that sounds a little weird but Hey! now days, you get what you pay for, sometimes, and I want to invest in a machine that will last for a while. My current machine has a metal outer body and I haven't seen too many now days that's all metal. The knobs are metal, everything on it is metal, very sturdy and rugged. This poor machine has been half way around the world and back. My ex was in the Air Force and the machine went everywhere I did. LOL....I'd greatly appreciate any help you can offer. Thanks so much!..........Babs

Patti Mahoney 07-03-2011 05:11 AM

Wow, it's amazing how long a post can get once I get started, lol. Sorry all for the long post. I forgot to ask, what features should I look for on a new machine? Thanks again! ..............Babs

tomilu 07-03-2011 05:15 AM

Are you looking for a new machine or would you like one of the trusted oldies? The oldies with all metal parts like the early Singers or others would serve you well and be much less expensive. There are folks on this board who could help fix you up with one of those.
Tommie

Tartan 07-03-2011 05:23 AM

What is your price range? I love my Bernina 440 QE but I know that is beyond what some people can pay. Mine cost about $3000.00 with the Bernina Stitch Regulator (Free Motion Quilting.)

Maia B 07-03-2011 05:28 AM

Well, check reviews and post questions in the sewing machine section of PatterReview.com. Any model you consider, you can look up non-commercial (unpaid reviews) there and comments here. Good luck!

nyelphaba 07-03-2011 05:29 AM

I cannot tell you what machine to buy, but I suggest thinking about what features you want/need. I can tell about my sewing machine journey. The first SM I got was a Singer 401 which my husband bought for me from a co-worker. It was 35 years old when I got it. Wonderful machine, I love it-a workhorse. It is in a cabinet, heavy, not very mobil. Years later, when we bought a house, a flyer came in the mail about new machines being sold at a hotel near us- advertised as a school home-ec overstock sale. The brand is Taylor. We went, looked, loved and bought. My machine repair man said the Taylor is a Singer produced in Poland. Terrific machine and I would not have gotten another except I stared quilting and learned about "dropping your feed dogs". So about 10 years later for my 50th birthday my husband bought me the machine of my choice. This turned out to be the Viking Quilt Designer- love this machine. It does everything I need and more. My last purchase was a Singer Featherweight
because I wanted something small and lightweight to take back and forth to classes and guild workshops. So there you have my journey. Again, think about your needs, what the machine can do for you. Ten years from now you my need/want another.

the casual quilter 07-03-2011 05:31 AM

Just my opinion --- I'd go to a dealer to try of the machines they sell if I were in the market for a new machine. Their business is built on the reputation they have developed in fair sales practices and the service they provide for their machines. Department/discount stores do not. Also, the dealer usually offers free lessons and has a trained staff that can point out the pros and cons of the machine and help you find the right machine for the sewing YOU do. Granted, buying from a dealer is more expensive, but my feeling is that over the long haul, the service you receive will be more than worth it.
As far as the oldies but goodies, I have a couple and I love them. They are reliable work partners. But, the new machines have features that the oldies don't.

quiltingaz 07-03-2011 05:38 AM

Go to a local shop and check them out. If you get a new one, make sure you can get service and repair locally. If you get a new one, I would probably go with a little more expensive machine, not Singer or Brother. They are light weight and will not hold up as well as the quality ones, Bernina, Pfaff, Babylock or Janome would be my choice. I have Bernina and Pfaff, really love both, but have moved to a location where I must take them 3 hours away to get serviced and it is very inconvenient because it usually takes 2 trips because I must leave them. Just my opinion.

DogHouseMom 07-03-2011 05:48 AM

Go to as many shops as you need to to try each major manufacturer. Keep a notebook with you. Keep notes on ease of use, features you like and features you cant do without. Try all the stitches and all the features. Ask about training and servicing. Dont discount used machines either. Good luck!!

Amythyst02 07-03-2011 05:56 AM

Patti, I had a similar question recently, and I was amazed at how helpful everyone was. But, the best advice I got was to go and test out the ones I was interested in, and to take along the types of fabric I would be using.

I have a Kenmore as well, but a fairly new model, and although it sews beautifully for clothing, it was struggling on thick materials. Thus my reason for looking for a new one, as I want to make quilts and it just will not be able to handle it. It struggled on fleece when I was making a robe for my hubby.

If you are going to spend a great deal of $$ I would strongly suggest you purchase from a local dealer. Althought there are some excellent dealers online, you will probably need to have some type of lessons, or at least someone to call and talk with about questions you have.

Best of luck in your search and keep us updated, and let us know what you decide. Also, right now there are some excellent buys going on here at least, they are having Christmas in July. So some very good sales.

Patti Mahoney 07-03-2011 06:17 AM

Thanks so much for your suggestions. My old machine is still running strong. But I wanted a machine just for quilting, one that has the features I would need for quilting, needle down, drop feed, those kinds of things. A dealer is a good suggestion. I'll have to look into those. Thanks again!

twistedstitcher 07-03-2011 06:27 AM

Everyone seems to have their favorite machine. What dealers are close to you? Go to the various dealers and try out machines and see what feels right for you. Don't let them pressure you into buying something right then and there. Narrow it down to a few models and then check here for reviews. You may have to join the site to read older reviews but it's free.

http://sewing.patternreview.com/SewingMachine/Reviews

Personally I'd look at Janome machines. They're user friendly, less expensive than the European machines, and very reliable.

Glassquilt 07-03-2011 06:44 AM

Ditto going to a local dealer. You'll get support.

If you do go to several local shops besides taking notes on the machines, take notes on the personal. Hired help usually reflects management's attitude.

Take note of the stuff on display. Do the bags looks like they're new or have been hanging for years? Something may be wrong if they don't have turnover.

Ask about classes. My dealer offers classes on learning about your new machine. i can call and ask questions anytime if I need to.

Do they have a relationship with a repairman? Looking up an unknown in the yellow pages can be risky.

ontheriver 07-03-2011 06:59 AM

I have a Viking Mega quilter I use just for quilting and I love it, although it is a little pricey. I have had other vikings, brothers, and newer singers and did not like them as well so I started looking for vintage machines. I found an great singer 201 and a 401 and I use those all the time. I like that they are all metal like yours and with a little love and care will be sewing long after I am gone. I like the history in them.

grammy Dwynn 07-03-2011 07:25 AM

I agree with all the other gals ~ Go to a local sewing machine dealers! Interview the dealer, you will be working with them for years to come. How much support do they give? Do they 'train' you how to use the machine.

Also check what 'feet' come with the machine, for quilting 1/4" foot, walking foot and free motion foot (aka darning foot.) My Janome 6500 came with those feet, while other brands you have to purchase separately.

Would you be traveling with this machine ~ retreats, LQS classes or sewing with friends? My 6500 weighs almost 25 lbs, it's one drawback, but I love it.

Good luck in you search!

kathdavis 07-03-2011 07:43 AM

I was using an older Kenmore until last November. Everyone kept talking about these computerized sewing machines and I kept putting it off because my Kenmore was all metal and ran well. I purchased a Brother Innovis 2000 (I paid $1350) last November and I fell in love with those computerized babies. They are wonderful. Check out Brother at a good sewing machine shop. I was warned to stay away from the sewing machines at Walmart, and places like that since I sew a lot, but a lot of people on this blog have them and like them. Hope this helps.

MamaHen 07-03-2011 08:28 AM

When I was ready to purchase my first computerized machine, I went to a Sewing Machine & Vacumn shop that sold about 10 different brands of machines. I looked at all that was within my price range and tried them all. I looked for one that was user friendly, not a big learning curve and one that I felt would last me a long time. I did not jump in and buy that day, but thought about all the features and what I really needed and what I really wanted. I chose a Elna 6004 and was very happy with this machine (still have it) thinking it would last me forever. Well times change, machines improve, so did I, so started looking for a machine with more bells & whistles, that took me to the Janome Horizon 7700. I'm very happy, moral of story, please go and try the many different brands and models, you'll find one that fits your needs. Stay away from the lower end machines from Walmart, most I have seen have given owners nothing but headaches. Good luck in your search.

Patti Mahoney 07-03-2011 08:46 AM

Thanks for your input. Almost everyone is saying the same thing...to go to a dealer and check out what the have, take notes and take classes or let the dealer work with me. That is all great advise. So, off to a dealer I go. I'm just starting to quilt, hand stitching at this time. My next venture is to hand applique. Seems I'm going to lean more toward hand stitching than machine work but I still want a great machine so that when I am ready to machine sew, I'll be ready. Again, thanks so much. Everyone has been sooo helpful.

Jo Mama 07-03-2011 08:53 AM

I too love my Bernina QE. It will last me forever so becomes most affordable. Lots of Bernina dealers have no interest financing. I would check around.

quiltnmore 07-03-2011 11:06 AM

You can quilt on almost any machine, but I got frustrated trying to quilt on a double size quilt in the regular sized area. I bought a machine with a larger area (harp) from needle to side.

My Janome 6500 came with an acrylic table to have a flat surface to move the quilt on. I don't need the table since my old cabinet has just enough room for the machine to fit inside and be lower to my level.

I agree to go to the dealer since you want more than your old machine offers. You will get great advice here too!

newbee3 07-03-2011 12:43 PM

I would buy a machine that you have tested out and from a store that is close enough to your home so if you run into problems you can get help. Also some place that offers some training.

Good luck

Blue's quilting mama 07-03-2011 12:50 PM

I bought mine from Sears.....after deciding I wanted a Janome. Found out that Janome makes the Kenmore sewing machines, and it is supposed to be easy to get service, etc. My other thought is that if you get a machine with a lot of goodies, it might be best to buy from a sewing machine dealer that would include a few lessons on how to use all the features, as part of the purchase.

Dolphyngyrl 07-03-2011 01:41 PM

Write down all the features you want in a machine, your budget, and take some test samples and go to a reputable dealer is my best advice, there are so many wonderful machines on the market you might get overwhelmed

miss_ticky2 07-03-2011 07:21 PM

I'm another Janome fan (I have the 7700 Horizon too)and I don't think you would go wrong with a Janome. The Horizon is quite expensive but I don't think there's anything else I would want on a machine for quilting...it has an extra large harp area for fitting large quilts into an a host of stitches, including a few different blanket stitches. I love to applique with mine as well. And I love the built in walking foot.

But, as suggested, go and try them out and see what might suit you and your budget the best.

Good luck with it :)

mlsudbey 07-04-2011 02:57 AM

those machines that are sold at Wal-mart and other stores according to my sewing repair man they are throw a way machines meaning they can't be fix. as it would if you can get it fixed cost more than buying a new one. my dealer sells machines from $150.00 and up. to a few thousand. but i sew so much i tend to wear out the thread guides. but those are cheap to replace. i like the viking machines. go to a dealer and a lot of times they have trade in models for a very good deal.

ywoodruff5 07-04-2011 03:06 AM

Having owned a number of machines over the years I personally recommend both the Pfaff and Viking Mega Quilter. The Pfaff has a built-in walking foot which is great for quilting and the Viking is more of an industrial machine, but only does straight stitching. They both have auto needle threaders but the Pfaff is much easier to use. Also they have needle up/down position and the Viking will cut threads. It all depends on what features you want. As indicated before, make a note of what features are important to you and then take your fabric in hand and go test drive them and make notes. :wink:

so-sew 07-04-2011 03:54 AM

Without hesitation, I would search Craigslist for a used Bernina. See what's out there, then go online to research available models. If you're looking for solid construction and dependability, go for a mechanical Bernina. If you're wanting more decorative stitches and bells and whistles, then think computerized Bernina. That's my suggestion! :-P

Tinabodina 07-04-2011 04:00 AM

I agree with you - my Bernine 440 QE is the best machine I have ever purchased.

Babs194068 07-04-2011 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by miss_ticky2
I'm another Janome fan (I have the 7700 Horizon too)and I don't think you would go wrong with a Janome. The Horizon is quite expensive but I don't think there's anything else I would want on a machine for quilting...it has an extra large harp area for fitting large quilts into an a host of stitches, including a few different blanket stitches. I love to applique with mine as well. And I love the built in walking foot.

But, as suggested, go and try them out and see what might suit you and your budget the best.

Good luck with it :)



I agree I love my Horizon.

Limey 07-04-2011 04:14 AM

Try estate sales. You may be able to find your Kenmore parts or a machine of a similar age with all its parts. Needle down is a more recent feature and for that you would need a newer machine.

MS quilter 07-04-2011 04:21 AM

Well, you guys must have better shops than I do. I was pressured to buy a machine, they wouldn't take it back, & I got no training. I won't go back there and there are no others within 60 miles. I prefer the older, metal machines anyway -much more reliable & fixable.

mltquilt 07-04-2011 04:32 AM

My first machine I purchased was a Singer purchased in the 80's. It still works and #2 daughter has the machine. I replaced it several years ago with a Bernina. As everyone has stated, try out machines at various dealers. Check out the reputation of the dealer. Listen to customers when you are in the shop. After finding a brand of machine and dealer then ask about used machines. They take trade-ins just like car dealers. Just make sure its the machine you like, not what everyone else likes or what the dealer wants to sell. Good luck.

mltquilt

lonestardreams 07-04-2011 05:21 AM

The best part of my sewing and embroidery machines is the dealer. They offer great support. I agree with those that mentioned working with a good dealer. I consider the dealer I purchase from a friend after all the time I have spent with them. AND, I love my machines.

missbelle 07-04-2011 05:32 AM

If your machine has a low shank (distance from screw holding foot on to machine bed) screw on foot there are generic feet that will fit. I think that from the age of machine it probably has screw on foot. Some fabric/quilting stores carry these feet. Generic feet are also made for the snap on foot. There are some generic shanks that use snap on feet. Lookup all information on machines through the internet, not necessarily through dealers. missbelle

quiltbuddy 07-04-2011 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by Babs194068

Originally Posted by miss_ticky2
I'm another Janome fan (I have the 7700 Horizon too)and I don't think you would go wrong with a Janome. The Horizon is quite expensive but I don't think there's anything else I would want on a machine for quilting...it has an extra large harp area for fitting large quilts into an a host of stitches, including a few different blanket stitches. I love to applique with mine as well. And I love the built in walking foot.

But, as suggested, go and try them out and see what might suit you and your budget the best.

Good luck with it :)



I agree I love my Horizon.

I've always had mechanical machines such as Bernina, Pfaff etc. and just bought a Janome Horizon and I'm in love. I didn't think the computerized features would make a difference but they do and I absolutely love, love, love it.

Lena1952 07-04-2011 06:01 AM

The machine is how old and you've never had it serviced!! Here is a thought, PM with the model and let me see if I can find the manual. My son repairs machines for a living and has access to lots of older model manuals. Try Sew4less.com for attachments. Let's see if we can find what you need, have the machine serviced and Keep the old gal. They don't make'em like that any more. Just my thoughts on it.

brosier 07-04-2011 06:19 AM

Yes, I would go to the local dealers and actually sit down and sew on their floor models and get a comparison. I am particularly happy with my Janome machines - so much so that I hardly look at other brands anymore because they are not only reliable, but they sew beautifully. I hardly ever have anything that can't be sewn on one of them. (that's another thing - when new models are introduced, I generally end up buying 1, but I keep the old ones because I love them!) Anyway, I'd be surprised if, after shopping and comparing, you didn't end up with a Janome. Happy shopping.

kellen46 07-04-2011 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by Tartan
What is your price range? I love my Bernina 440 QE but I know that is beyond what some people can pay. Mine cost about $3000.00 with the Bernina Stitch Regulator (Free Motion Quilting.)

I have a 440QE as well and sew on it every day. I do everything on this machine and would not trade it for any other. However which ever machine you are going to buy I strongly suggest you go to a dealer for it. A dealer is going to be there for more than just the initial sale, classes, help with sewing problems, parts and service, all this is as important as the machine it's self. I get my machines cleaned and serviced every year. Just like you get your car serviced and tuned up regularly so you need to get your good sewing machine cared for. The dealer you buy from is the right person to care for your machine maintenance. Also dealerships frequently have sewing clubs so you might enjoy the get togethers and learning new techniques. You don't have to buy a computerized machine but you might find you are ready for an upgrade and that BSR is sure nice for free motion quilting.

brosier 07-04-2011 06:20 AM

For this, I'd highly recommend the Janome 6600!

writerwomen 07-04-2011 06:20 AM

First and formost clean and oil your machine. You can do this yourself just take your time and look it over. Can also find generic sewing machine care info on the internet. Check thrift stores for attachments that have the same style shank as yours. There are several types. Most common are a low shank, low shank square shaft, high shank, high shank square shaft, slant shank. There are others but not as common. Even if it doesn't say kenmore on the attachments they may work as most were made by only a handful of companies. Hang onto your machine it is a good work horse. New machines are not made of the same materials or quality. Most are made to be disposable and have a short life. Remember if you get into an electronic machine that you need to add that to the cost of repair as the cost goes up especially if it is on the computer board.Some repairs cost more then the machine- ask your local shop the cost of such a repair on the machine you lok at. Also the availability of a qualified repair person for the brand you choose. Many companies are refusing to deal with the little repair shop who doesn't specialize in their brand. If it is a nonelctronic machine you will have better success in finding someone to repair a manual machine. As far as a manual for the Kenmore. Go to the Yahoo group Vintage Sewing Mchine Collectors. Someone may have it. All the bells and whistles of a new machine are nice as long as they work


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