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MTS 07-12-2011 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by bonnielass
12 by 12 inch block is 144 sq in block 6 by 6 inch block 36 square inches. 36times 4 equals 144. What you need to do is divide the design by 4 although you only are making 1/2 the length. I know this sounds confusing but it does work. I try to work the geometry out on graph paper before I remake a block.

You haven't read the whole thread.

And there's some accepted terminology used in quilting that you're not incorporating. And you can use all the graph paper you want but it's not going to prove your theory about dividing by 4.

When we say half the size, we're not talking about the area of the block (which is what you're calculating).

We are generally talking half the numerical value of the square's measurement - iow, half of 12 is 6. Pretty simple.

Yes, it's a quarter of the size in terms of area, but that's NOT how you re-calculate the size of the individual sub-units.

You calculate those by dividing the finished measurements of each sub-unit by 2.

A 4"x6" rectangle would be 2"x3" (I'm ignoring the addition of the seam allowance).

Ask any 3rd grader.

Let's say I have a 12" square FINISHED nine-patch block and I want to make a 6" square FINISHED nine-patch block .

Please explain how your math would accomplished this. What and where are you dividing by 4 to get a correctly sized 6" block ?????????


The OP was on the right track for the majority of blocks and obviously just made a miscalculation somewhere. Her method was not incorrect.

glenda5253 07-12-2011 10:37 AM

This is a good lesson---am bookmarking it for when this challenge comes up for me.

IBQUILTIN 07-12-2011 03:47 PM

Always depends on the "finished" block factor. If you want a 6" finished block, devide the 12" block by 2 and add 1/2 inch. If you want it 5 3/4" then cut it to 6". Its always confusing, and if I am making a block with more than 6 pieces, it seems I always get one wrong.

Stacey 07-12-2011 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by GingerK
Get out the graph paper and draw it out as a finished 6" block. Then measure the individual pieces and add your 1/4" seam allowances. Over the years I have found that true quarter inch graph paper is my best friend in the sewing room--well that and my seam ripper!

This is my tried and true method, also.

butterflywing 07-12-2011 04:31 PM

i just can't do it and since this is a hobby i don't try anymore.
if i can draw it out and graph it, i can resize it. if it's a template or a PP, i can enlarge on a copier. but if it has numbers, i can't do it and considering how many patterns there are to choose from, i refuse to make myself crazy.

pasovasz 07-12-2011 05:25 PM

<Let's say I have a 12" square FINISHED nine-patch block and I want to make a 6" square FINISHED nine-patch block .

Please explain how your math would accomplished this. What and where are you dividing by 4 to get a correctly sized 6" block ?????????>

9 equal sized patches to make a 6 inch block:

2.5 inches are needed to make EACH patch. Cut 9 of these 2.5 inch pieces.

Take some scraps and try it out.

Should sew into a perfect 12.5 inch block which becomes 12 inches FINISHED in the quilt top.

Susan

MTS 07-12-2011 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by pasovasz

Originally Posted by MTS
<Let's say I have a 12" square FINISHED nine-patch block and I want to make a 6" square FINISHED nine-patch block .

Please explain how your math would accomplished this. What and where are you dividing by 4 to get a correctly sized 6" block ?????????>

9 equal sized patches to make a 6 inch block:

2.5 inches are needed to make EACH patch. Cut 9 of these 2.5 inch pieces.

Take some scraps and try it out.

Should sew into a perfect 12.5 inch block which becomes 12 inches FINISHED in the quilt top.
Susan

Jeez, does anyone even bother to read before posting?

Did that really read like I needed an explanation? 'Cause I didn't.

The question was not how to make a 6" 9Patch. It was how to...well, it's right there in my post - which was directed at a prior poster's incorrect information - which relates back to the first post of this thread.


@CompulsiveQuilter -
Which block specifically were you trying to reduce? You were definitely on the right track, despite some of the posts in this thread. ;-)

QuiltE 07-12-2011 06:34 PM

<sigh>
Sometimes I wonder.
Yes, sometimes! :)

valsma 07-12-2011 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by calano1

Originally Posted by Yooper32
I am not even jumping in this mud puddle.

Yip, me too ... I'm sitting out this round ..... :D

Me too. I'm confused just reading it. Not to mention the claws are coming out.

:-D

pasovasz 07-12-2011 07:14 PM

My mistake.

I should have ended with : Should sew into a 6.5 inch square so it is 6 inches as sewn into the quilt (not 12 inches as in my original post. Sorry.)

Agatha 07-13-2011 02:33 AM

I think I'd need to see the kind of block it is to know what you mean. That would certainly work for a 12" square of plain fabric...but if there are blocks within the block for example, each one would need scaling down.

I use EQ and that solves my problems most of the time or graph paper is a great tool.

Dee G 07-13-2011 11:40 AM

All this sounds like something out of Dr. Seuss. Also I learned something new - 1/2 of 12 is not 6. I'm not sure what is is, but it seems it's not 6. :-)

1screech 07-15-2011 07:55 PM

Remember the 12" block is 12 square inches.

MTS 07-16-2011 02:43 AM


Originally Posted by 1screech
Remember the 12" block is 12 square inches.

Oy.
A 12" square block is 144 square inches. Really.

butterflywing 07-16-2011 04:24 AM

i can't wait to convert a 30" square to a 6" square. (finished)

it'll be like science fiction :mrgreen: LOL!

QuiltE 07-16-2011 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by MTS

Originally Posted by 1screech
Remember the 12" block is 12 square inches.

Oy.
A 12" square block is 144 square inches. Really.

:thumbup: :thumbup: Right on! :thumbup: :thumbup:
:lol: :lol: though a 12" block is 12 inches square!! :lol: :lol:

butterflywing 07-16-2011 02:19 PM

is it any wonder that MTS is hiding from us? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

QuiltE 07-16-2011 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by butterflywing
is it any wonder that MTS is hiding from us? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Hey .... What's that about?
She made a correction to info that was posted.
Is there something wrong with helping people to learn from their mistakes?

<sigh>

bearisgray 07-16-2011 03:08 PM

I know how to do it -

I can demonstrate it -

I don't think I can put it in words - :oops:

butterflywing 07-17-2011 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by QuiltE

Originally Posted by butterflywing
is it any wonder that MTS is hiding from us? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Hey .... What's that about?
She made a correction to info that was posted.
Is there something wrong with helping people to learn from their mistakes?

<sigh>

she is hiding because we are DRIVING HER CRAZY :lol: .
calm down. she can speak for herself.

i'd be in hiding, too.

peacebypiece 07-17-2011 12:08 PM

Anybody have EQ7?

QuiltE 07-17-2011 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by butterflywing

Originally Posted by QuiltE

Originally Posted by butterflywing
is it any wonder that MTS is hiding from us? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Hey .... What's that about?
She made a correction to info that was posted.
Is there something wrong with helping people to learn from their mistakes?

<sigh>

she is hiding because we are DRIVING HER CRAZY :lol: .
calm down. she can speak for herself.

i'd be in hiding, too.

I'll comment as I wish, thank you! Again, I don't know where you are coming from with your comments. MTS is a very good contributor to this forum and gives out great info.

As for your hiding concerns ... she's not the first to post hiding or something unrelated to geographical identification. Nothing wrong with that at all!!!! This IS the internet and many choose to not put identifiers in the name of safety.


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