Converting a 12" block to a 6" ... divide in half and add 1/2", right. Easy peasy. WRONG. I still don't know what happened; too mad to mess with it right now.
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Take a deep breath you will get it. Try, try and try again. BrendaK
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:oops: I would've done the same! Thanks for the warning.
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If you place a 6" square piece of paper on a 12" one, you will see you needed to divide it by 4, then add your 1/2" seem allowance
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Originally Posted by PrettyCurious
If you place a 6" square piece of paper on a 12" one, you will see you needed to divide it by 4, then add your 1/2" seem allowance
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I can "see" divide it by 4 but it doesn't make sense in my head. Why does that work? Six is half of 12. This makes my brain hurt.lol
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It is hard to give advice unless we see the block.
Depends on if it is a square or a star. |
Did you divide the original measurements for the 12" block, the ones that included the necessary seam allowances for the 12" block?
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Are you trying to reduce/enlarge individual pieces or the whole block at one time?
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Originally Posted by PrettyCurious
If you place a 6" square piece of paper on a 12" one, you will see you needed to divide it by 4, then add your 1/2" seem allowance
So if you have a four 6" finished blocks making up a 12" block, you do want to divide each piece by 2 and add the seam allowance. That will give you four 3.5" blocks, which will make a finished 6" 4-patch block. Your way would have four 1.5" blocks, with a finished block size of 3", which would be too small for what she wanted. |
Get out the graph paper and draw it out as a finished 6" block. Then measure the individual pieces and add your 1/4" seam allowances. Over the years I have found that true quarter inch graph paper is my best friend in the sewing room--well that and my seam ripper!
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Originally Posted by GingerK
Get out the graph paper and draw it out as a finished 6" block. Then measure the individual pieces and add your 1/4" seam allowances. Over the years I have found that true quarter inch graph paper is my best friend in the sewing room--well that and my seam ripper!
There is something about drawing the lines in oneself that is very enlightening. (Enlightening isn't exactly the word I want, but it's the best one I can come up with at the moment) Make sure your graph paper is "true" - some of them are off a little bit. Take any ruler and put it on top of the paper in both directions. The paper I'm using now lines up exactly with my ruler in the vertical direction - over an 8 inch width in the horizontal direction, it's accumulated about 1/16 inch variance. |
Originally Posted by GingerK
Get out the graph paper and draw it out as a finished 6" block. Then measure the individual pieces and add your 1/4" seam allowances. Over the years I have found that true quarter inch graph paper is my best friend in the sewing room--well that and my seam ripper!
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Originally Posted by bearisgray
Originally Posted by GingerK
Get out the graph paper and draw it out as a finished 6" block. Then measure the individual pieces and add your 1/4" seam allowances. Over the years I have found that true quarter inch graph paper is my best friend in the sewing room--well that and my seam ripper!
There is something about drawing the lines in oneself that is very enlightening. (Enlightening isn't exactly the word I want, but it's the best one I can come up with at the moment) Make sure your graph paper is "true" - some of them are off a little bit. Take any ruler and put it on top of the paper in both directions. The paper I'm using now lines up exactly with my ruler in the vertical direction - over an 8 inch width in the horizontal direction, it's accumulated about 1/16 inch variance. |
empowering is a good word - thank you
enhancing enabling envisioning - (I don't think that's a real word, but I like it!) |
In the 12" sq , you have 12" in the length and 12" in the width. When you divided the 12 by 2 you go 6 , however you only divided one dimension. There are four 6' sq. in a 12" sq. Two across the top half and two across the bottom half.
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I don't see any answer to any of the questions or suggestions raised. How can we give an informed answer without the facts.
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Originally Posted by bearisgray
empowering is a good word - thank you
enhancing enabling envisioning - (I don't think that's a real word, but I like it!) en·vi·sion (n-vzhn) tr.v. en·vi·sioned, en·vi·sion·ing, en·vi·sions To picture in the mind; imagine. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. :wink: |
And just to confuse things more, you need to remember to subtract the 1/2" seam allowance first, then divide by 2 then add the 1/2" back on...
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this would have undoubtedly have happened to me :?:
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The formula for each piece is this: Subtract 1/2" from each dimension. Divide each dimension by 2. Add 1/2" to each dimension.
Example: 8 1/2" x 4 1/2" rectangle to be made half size. 8 1/2" - 1/2" = 8. Divide by 2 = 4. Add the 1/2" back = 4 1/2" 4 1/2" - 1/2" = 4. Divide by 2 = 2. Add the 1/2" back = 2 1/2". |
Solution??? Try another pattern!!! T his is getting FAR too technical for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:
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Oh I totally agree! me and algebra got along great most days, but basic math, not so much! I wanted to make a miller's crossing quilt, but I wanted 12 inch blocks, not 6 inch blocks, so instead of googling it to find the correct measurements, I just double everything. NOPE!! All my 9P on point pieces don't have points, and my pinwheel blocks have little borders on them. Good luck though, you may get it!
here's half of it! [ATTACH=CONFIG]225020[/ATTACH] |
the 1/4" seam allowance also applies to each unit within the block.
A finished 12" block which is not joined to other blocks is 12 1/2". Reduce finished 12" (not 12 1/2) to 6". But you have to add 1/4" to each component of the block and the outside seams. A triangle in a sqare would be plus 1/2" for the outside seams, no extra width-wise, but plus 3/8" plus 3/8" for both sides of the triangle height-wise. (triangle is pointing up or down) A pinwheel would be plus 1/2" outer SA plus 1/2" inner SA both directions, ditto a sq in a sq. |
i would have to agree with the subtract seam allowance divide by 2 then add seam allowance back .
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Originally Posted by CompulsiveQuilter
Converting a 12" block to a 6" ... divide in half and add 1/2", right. Easy peasy. WRONG. I still don't know what happened; too mad to mess with it right now.
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I am not even jumping in this mud puddle.
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Love graph paper. The word you are looking for is 'educational'.
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I HATE MATH....lol
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I would love to see the actual pattern you are trying to change.
Not going there with measurements! |
Subtract 1/2. Divide that by 2 and then add 1/2 back.
I think My 3" from 6" still came out 4" instead of 3 1/2" ;-) |
If you just count the 1/4" squares and add 1/2" for seams, you can get the size, even if the lines themselves are a little off.
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Originally Posted by Yooper32
I am not even jumping in this mud puddle.
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I can't do this at all. When I need to figure out a block size I call up my sister and she does it for me!! Good luck.
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Originally Posted by calano1
Originally Posted by Yooper32
I am not even jumping in this mud puddle.
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I just found this webpage on resizing blocks: http://www.theappliquesociety.org/ju...now-you-know/.
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12 by 12 inch block is 144 sq in block 6 by 6 inch block 36 square inches. 36times 4 equals 144. What you need to do is divide the design by 4 although you only are making 1/2 the length. I know this sounds confusing but it does work. I try to work the geometry out on graph paper before I remake a block.
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Originally Posted by GingerK
Get out the graph paper and draw it out as a finished 6" block. Then measure the individual pieces and add your 1/4" seam allowances. Over the years I have found that true quarter inch graph paper is my best friend in the sewing room--well that and my seam ripper!
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find a quilt w/ templates and enlarge them at staples.
i actually use graph paper. i can't count my fingers. |
I think it is beautiful just like that. If you had not said that you were trying for some other look I would have thought you designed it to look just like this. Sometimes "different" is more interesting and beautiful.
Originally Posted by sarahrachel
Oh I totally agree! me and algebra got along great most days, but basic math, not so much! I wanted to make a miller's crossing quilt, but I wanted 12 inch blocks, not 6 inch blocks, so instead of googling it to find the correct measurements, I just double everything. NOPE!! All my 9P on point pieces don't have points, and my pinwheel blocks have little borders on them. Good luck though, you may get it!
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