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chairjogger 03-23-2012 03:57 AM

stitch in ditch I'm not getting it right
 
Oh my! Breathing to just get this done! Sort of a split rail with pinwheel accents. Only 8 inch long ditches then the rails switch. 62 inch x 62 inch...I' m freaking out on this one... Even bought the foot....back to clear normal foot.
Just getting through it at this point. :(

Annie68 03-23-2012 04:04 AM

Good luck!
: )

Raggiemom 03-23-2012 04:42 AM

I love my SITD foot, makes it much easier for me to follow the line. That being said, I have used the 1/4 inch foot a few times to SITD because I was too lazy to switch the feet. Good luck. Sometimes slowing down helps too.

leatheflea 03-23-2012 05:11 AM

SITD is too hard! I stay away from it if all possible. Good luck! hope you have better success than me.

Stitchnripper 03-23-2012 05:27 AM

Question - when you use the SITD foot, do you put the guide right in the ditch? I have a hard time with that. Or, can you move the needle and use the guide to quilt along side the ditch? That seems a little easier for me. But, I don't use the SITD foot for that.

Tartan 03-23-2012 05:36 AM

I can do stitch in the ditch but very sloooowly. I put on my walking foot and the magnifying glass on my Bernina and carefully follow the seam line. I hate it when it gets out of the ditch so I very rarely use SITD anymore. I use the stitch on my Bernina that wiggles or curves from one side of the line to the other. Less stress and because it is wigglying back and forth, I just aim the needle sewing down the ditch and let it do it's thing.

chairjogger 03-23-2012 05:54 AM

Why i have forgotten my walking foot i only think because of the 8 inch rails. Will try that. Stitchnripper, love you name, yes..put it in the ditch but wow..guide is flexable...i have pressed on one side..should not be that...maybe speed..need s l o w maybe. Thank you all for posting.

Jingle 03-23-2012 06:49 AM

I do a 1/4" line from the seam if I do a straight stitch at all. Looks much neater to me. I usually just do a large stipple or meander.

MadQuilter 03-23-2012 07:51 AM

When you SID, the seam is supposed to be just in the "lower" side of the seam. I put my hands on either side of the seam and slightly tug to see which part is the lower side (side away from seam allowance). Keep the needle close to the ridge of the seam allowance. IF the seam allowance switches (that happens to me a lot), starting a few stitches BEFORE the switch (and still tugging the seam a bit) maneuver the line so the needle slowly moves over to the other low seam and continue sewing until the seam allowance switches again. When the quilt is washed, all will be well. Don't give up.

Sadiemae 03-23-2012 07:57 AM

Good Luck!!! SID is not my favorite type of quilting to do. I know I need to practice, but I definitely prefer fmq.

Prism99 03-23-2012 07:59 AM

I found traditional machine SID too nerve-wracking. I use a serpentine stitch now. This makes a wavy line so that I only have to stay approximately in the seam line when I am using it. Small deviations do not show. I just use a regular metal zigzag foot for this (not an open-toe embroidery foot, as that allows too much fabric to gather near the needle). The end look is different, but I like it.

Here is a link to some samples of serpentine stitch. The one I am using on my Bernina is closest to #19 in the photo. I adjusted the stitch width and length to make mine a little tighter wave:
http://restisnotidleness.blogspot.co...-stitches.html

AnnieF 03-23-2012 08:36 AM

I can FMQ just about anything, but the stitch in the ditch has me beaten. I usually end up with those flop over pieces of fabric everytime I hit another stitching line.

CoyoteQuilts 03-23-2012 08:40 AM

I have much better luck with an open toed foot than the 'joiner' or 'SID' foot. I can see where I am going and it is easier to 'pull' the seam apart.

Dina 03-23-2012 08:56 AM

My SID foot makes it really easy. I prefer SID because of it. Guess I got lucky with my foot. I just follow the ditch, but I know what works for one person doesn't always work for another. I find FMQ difficult.

Dina

Lori S 03-23-2012 09:48 AM

I find if I needle over just a bit it helps with stitching in the ditch. I like mine right in the ditch. If my eyes get fatigued ... a use the seperptine stitch on alot of quilts.... it is the most forgiving stitch you can use! Sometimes my eyes just can not take alot of Stitching in the Ditch.
FYI there are walking feet that have a Stitch in the ditch attachment.... its a beautiful thing to have .. makes a lot of difference.

Dodie 03-24-2012 03:31 AM

I was having trouble with the SID and talked to the lady at the Bernina store and she showed me the store samples using the serpintine stitch beautiful work so now I use my walking foot and the serpintine stitch no problem and looks nice everytime

katesnanna 03-24-2012 03:42 AM

I SID quite often but do a better job without the specialized foot. Just use my walking foot. I occasionally go out of the ditch but only by a couple of stitches. I have learned to let it go and once the quilt is on the bed I don't notice it. We all make the mistake of examining our quilt up close when we should lay them out on a bed, even during piecing, because that's the way the quilt will be seen. If you are looking for perfection you will never be happy with what you do. Think of the small imperfections as what makes your quilt or any project unique and one of a kind.

Candy Apple Quilts 03-24-2012 04:41 AM

Another option to try is SND, which is Stitch NEAR the Ditch -- or Stitch NEXT to the Ditch. I do this frequently, because it is done on the "high" side of the ditch, and makes everything lay nice and flat. I'm doing it on a longarm these days, but when I did it on my regular machine, I used an edge foot because it would help me to travel right along the edges. Maybe you could check your box and see if you have one of those feet for your machine...

weezie 03-24-2012 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by MadQuilter (Post 5084531)
When you SID, the seam is supposed to be just in the "lower" side of the seam. I put my hands on either side of the seam and slightly tug to see which part is the lower side (side away from seam allowance). Keep the needle close to the ridge of the seam allowance. IF the seam allowance switches (that happens to me a lot), starting a few stitches BEFORE the switch (and still tugging the seam a bit) maneuver the line so the needle slowly moves over to the other low seam and continue sewing until the seam allowance switches again. When the quilt is washed, all will be well. Don't give up.

This is what I do. I love my SID foot; it allows me to secure much or all of the quilt so that I can remove most of the safety pins used for basting before I do any other quilting.

virginia cartwright 03-24-2012 05:55 AM

Stitch In The Ditch.
 
I have found that having a pair of Rubber Gloves on help, also Rubber Fingers. There is also special gloves that you can buy in the Quit Store that are fantastic. Better then Rubber Gloves because they are partly cotton and breath.

solstice3 03-24-2012 07:18 AM

SID can be very challenging for the challenged (like me!)

purplefiend 03-24-2012 07:38 AM

I avoid STID, too much turning of the quilt, I usually manage to miss the ditch. I prefer FMQ or grid quilting done with a walking foot.

ccmoeus 03-24-2012 07:44 AM

karen
 
I learned from one of my quilting books that you don't stitch right on the seam, you go right along the seam line, so I just figured it ment along side of not right on top. It seems useless sewing right on top of the seams. but ladies this is just my take on the directions. I am just a beginner.

nativetexan 03-24-2012 08:25 AM

Madquilter is right, when Eleanor Burns of Quilt In A Day does Stitch in the ditch, she pulls with both hands on either side of the seam an the stitch goes on the lower side, right next to the seam. that way when you let go, the fabric relaxes and the stitch doesn't show. no direct stitching over the threads in the seam at all.
if that doesn't work for you, just stitch 1/4 or 1/8 away from the seams. make it easy on yourself. quilting is supposed to be fun!

sdeaaz 03-24-2012 08:33 AM

I agree this is much easier, and usuallly looks better.

Originally Posted by Jingle (Post 5084362)
I do a 1/4" line from the seam if I do a straight stitch at all. Looks much neater to me. I usually just do a large stipple or meander.


JReadman 03-24-2012 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Prism99 (Post 5084554)
I found traditional machine SID too nerve-wracking. I use a serpentine stitch now. This makes a wavy line so that I only have to stay approximately in the seam line when I am using it. Small deviations do not show. I just use a regular metal zigzag foot for this (not an open-toe embroidery foot, as that allows too much fabric to gather near the needle). The end look is different, but I like it.

Here is a link to some samples of serpentine stitch. The one I am using on my Bernina is closest to #19 in the photo. I adjusted the stitch width and length to make mine a little tighter wave:
http://restisnotidleness.blogspot.co...-stitches.html


Thank you for the link! Been beating myself up over SID ~ this is exactly what I've been needing!!

azwendyg 03-24-2012 08:45 AM

SID can be quite a challenge for sure! I usually do a little SID or preferably, stitch near the ditch, on large quilts to secure my quilt sandwich before I get down to all the FMQ details. I use my walking foot and a closely matching thread and just do the best I can.

LadyElisabeth 03-24-2012 08:56 AM

Just keep sewing. Many of us want perfection 100% of the time. Unless it will be in a big Quilt show it will just be loved by the person receiving it.
I wanted everything to be perfect 50 years ago. Now I just try to keep it enjoyable.

littlesurfer 03-24-2012 09:15 AM

Hang in there!

Wintersewer 03-24-2012 10:41 AM

When I do sitd I use a decorative stitch.....very forgiving of small mistakes. And these hold the quilt together better too.

mucky 03-24-2012 02:20 PM

I was going to also going to suggest pulling the seam a part with your hands ang put that open toe foot back on.. Also if you can set your machine to a slower speed do that.

JanieH 03-24-2012 04:23 PM

Interesting helps - thanks

chairjogger 03-24-2012 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by mucky (Post 5087662)
I was going to also going to suggest pulling the seam a part with your hands ang put that open toe foot back on.. Also if you can set your machine to a slower speed do that.

Thank you all, of all suggestions...i do this. Slow going, less ripping out stitches.

chairjogger 03-24-2012 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by virginia cartwright (Post 5086669)
I have found that having a pair of Rubber Gloves on help, also Rubber Fingers. There is also special gloves that you can buy in the Quit Store that are fantastic. Better then Rubber Gloves because they are partly cotton and breath.

I LOVE the light weight gloves with only rubber tips! Thank you.

carol45 03-24-2012 05:28 PM

SID takes practice too, just like FMQ. I recently discovered that if I don't look at the needle, but look at the center of the walking foot, that's right in front of the needle, and make sure that the ditch stays centered in that place, the needle then sews in the ditch. It's hard to not look at the needle, but I'm trying not to, and then it really works well.

lclang 03-24-2012 07:19 PM

I don't like SITD stitching either so I used a serpentine stitch and it was SOOOO much better. Even if it varies a little it isn't noticable.

MarleneC 03-25-2012 08:26 AM

Thank you for this tip--I did SID and wasn't always in the ditch and wish I had thought of the serpentine stitch before doing the entire quilt.


Originally Posted by Prism99 (Post 5084554)
I found traditional machine SID too nerve-wracking. I use a serpentine stitch now. This makes a wavy line so that I only have to stay approximately in the seam line when I am using it. Small deviations do not show. I just use a regular metal zigzag foot for this (not an open-toe embroidery foot, as that allows too much fabric to gather near the needle). The end look is different, but I like it.

Here is a link to some samples of serpentine stitch. The one I am using on my Bernina is closest to #19 in the photo. I adjusted the stitch width and length to make mine a little tighter wave:
http://restisnotidleness.blogspot.co...-stitches.html


muffins 03-25-2012 05:27 PM

I have done quite a few quilts with the sitd, slow was the name of the game for me and then when my eyes would start getting tired of staring at the ditch, I would get up and take a break for a short time, then go back to it.

nightquilter 03-25-2012 05:35 PM

have you tried a line tanner ruler? I love mine. It keeps me where I need to be.

urgodschild2 03-25-2012 06:12 PM

Wow I have learned something here. I thought when you SITD you just sewed where they joined together. You all have shown me that it is a little more complicated then that. The idea is not to see the stitching?????? I have failed on this one big time. I will have to practice a lot more.

Barb


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