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glendel1944 08-30-2013 08:15 PM

to use pins or permanent basting spray
 
I am debating about how to quilt my first full size quilt top. I have the basting spray, but not a lot of room to work to put layers together. Don't know if I should just find a local quilter to do it for me or try it on my own. Any suggestions? I live in Vegas and if I take it out would like to do so locally.

MadQuilter 08-30-2013 08:23 PM

Can't really help you there. I use both the bent safety pins or basting spray. When I don't have enough space, I find a place where I can baste it. Many LQS offer their class space to do that.

I can't send my quilts out to be quilted by someone else because they would not be "my" quilts any longer. So I practice, practice, practice to get better at that FMQ. I wish I could send some out coz I would get more done. So if you feel comfortable with that, good luck. I know that Charisma from the QB is a fabulous quilter. Maybe someone else can point you to a local quilter.

glendel1944 08-30-2013 08:47 PM

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COYOTEMAGIC 08-30-2013 09:07 PM

I use Elmer's Glue. Have used it for years. Check out post #51 of this thread. http://www.quiltingboard.com/main-f1...t180790-2.html if you lay yours out on the floor or table, I suggest using a cheap plastic table cloth to protect those things . I used to use my kitchen floor before I got so many critters running around. I've got basting pins, a basting gun, and have done thread basting, but after I did Elmer's for the first time, I never looked back.

glendel1944 08-30-2013 09:11 PM

Do you use just regular white Elmer's glue? And is it permanent after it dries? I would have to use table since I have bad knees and can't crawl around on floor.

DOTTYMO 08-30-2013 10:51 PM

Look up Sharon schambers utube on sandwiching it may give you an idea. If using glue you need plenty of fresh air.

quiltsRfun 08-30-2013 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by glendel1944 (Post 6265223)
Do you use just regular white Elmer's glue? And is it permanent after it dries? I would have to use table since I have bad knees and can't crawl around on floor.

It's the Elmer's school glue which washes out. You wouldn't want to use a permanent glue or spray adhesive.

Dalronix 08-30-2013 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by glendel1944 (Post 6265223)
Do you use just regular white Elmer's glue?

I would love to know the answer to that as no one was able to answer my question here:

http://www.quiltingboard.com/main-f1...ml#post6248015

Lisa_wanna_b_quilter 08-31-2013 02:37 AM

Dalronix, use the Elmer's Washable Glue. It often says "School Glue" on it also. It is white in color, not clear.

Misty's Mom 08-31-2013 04:14 AM

I love the 505 basting spray.

nyelphaba 08-31-2013 04:32 AM

I use spray basting now, and sometimes I am not able to baste on the dining room table or the floor, so the last time I did it I used my bed. The bed is king size, I took off the bedding, put on an old sheet, smoothed everything the best I could and spray basted the quilt on the bed. I worked out very well and basted very quickly. And on the plus size I did not get a sore back.

snipforfun 08-31-2013 05:51 AM

The quilt has so much color and design I would probably just do an edge to edge design and not detract from the quilt itself. More and more Im sending quilts out for edge to edge. When I do a quilt that wants more, I have it custom quilted. Important to me at this stage of life and health to get these quilts done! We have amazing quilters here in St. George - where Las Vegas comes to shop!

francie yuhas 08-31-2013 06:56 AM

I put a portable table next to my dining room table( covered with old flannel backed plastic table cloth). I tape down edges of whatever will fit on table and sandwich with big safety pins. When done,I just move some more onto the table. I don't like fumes from basting spray in the house,but I do use 505on table runners,smaller items.

Stitchnripper 08-31-2013 07:42 AM

I agree with Elmer's Washable School Glue. I learned with pin basting, have used thread basting, and have tried spray basting, but once I tried the Elmer's Washable School Glue I will never do anything but. I do it in sections on my dining room table. I don't even tape anything. Six quilts in, one of them a big lap size, I am hooked.

Prism99 08-31-2013 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by glendel1944 (Post 6265183)
I am debating about how to quilt my first full size quilt top. I have the basting spray, but not a lot of room to work to put layers together. Don't know if I should just find a local quilter to do it for me or try it on my own. Any suggestions? I live in Vegas and if I take it out would like to do so locally.

Your thread title mentions *permanent* basting spray. Basting spray for quilts is not permanent; it is repositionable and (supposedly, anyway) washes out in the laundry.

I would either spray baste or baste with Elmer's white washable school glue. I would lay a large flat sheet over a large bed and use that for either method. (Toss the sheet in the laundry afterwards. Both will wash out.)

There are quite a few threads on the QB about basting with spray or with Elmer's. Here's a link to an Elmer's glue basting tutorial with photos:
http://www.quiltingboard.com/tutoria...e-t208057.html

dcamarote 08-31-2013 08:49 AM

If you have not used the basting spray before, you might want to try it on a small project first. It took me awhile to get the hang of it but now I do pretty good. I start in the middle of the quilt, fold back the bottom half and then spray about 12 inches across; then I put that part in place smoothing a lot as I go. Then, I move onto the next section. I find this works much better for me than spraying the whole thing at once. Remember you can pick up and move the material if it doesn't lay right.

glendel1944 08-31-2013 10:32 AM

Thank each of you for your input. It is really nice to have such a great support group. I am new to serious quilting but have been sewing 50+ years. I have made baby & lap quilts but never got into it whole heartedly until lately. Now addicted.

patchsamkim 08-31-2013 10:44 AM

I use basting pins. Have not tried the Elmer's glue method..maybe will on a small project to see how it goes. I am really sensitive to the basting spray, even in an area with good ventilation, so don't use that.

cjr 08-31-2013 10:55 AM

Lots of good long armers in vegas. Check with any of the quilt stores.

toverly 08-31-2013 12:00 PM

I use basting spray and pins. I have a regular machine with a tiny throat so I have to handle and roll my quilts alot when quilting. It may be overkill but it works. Our last Guild Meeting someone suggested using the insulation foam covered with flannel as a pinning board also, not just a design wall. They drape half over the board, smooth it out, pin then turn it around, slide it a little and pin the other half all while it is leaning up. I am anxious to try it, sure beats the floor.

ckcowl 08-31-2013 12:37 PM

basting spray and glue wash out after the quilt is quilted- unless you are making a wall hanging that will not be laundered you would not want to use anything that would be permanent. fusible washes out too. you can use glue, spray, fusible batting, pins or thread to baste your quilt for quilting. for quilting your quilt on your own you could use wavy lines down your braids, or down the braid segments. stitch in the ditch, with something curvy in the sashing strips...most any pattern would work on your quilt- it is 'busy enough' to hide any boo-boo's you may make and be a good project to 'practice' on. if you want to send it to a long-arm quilter check with local quilt shops to see who they recommend.

QM 08-31-2013 12:41 PM

I found immediately that for me, basting spray is a terrible idea. Even out of doors in a light breeze, it set off my asthma. I pin baste, but mean to try glue basting.

COYOTEMAGIC 08-31-2013 04:31 PM

Basic Elmer's School glue or Glue-All. Doesn't even have to be Elmer's just as long as it's washable. I don't use the spray adhesives because they set off my asthma.

mamaw 08-31-2013 06:38 PM

I use 505 basting spray and then pin lightly to enforce the hold while quilting. It doesn't have a strong odor and is safe to use indoors too. I wash and dry the quilt after to remove the 505 and give it the "quilt" look. Am always satisfied with the results.

lclang 09-01-2013 04:42 AM

I tried the basting spray and it's a sticky mess if you aren't very careful. Tried the pins and that's not for me. Basting works too but has to be taken out either as you go or after quilting. Try the Elmer's Washable School Glue. It's cheap and easy to wash off if you get it somewhere you don't want it. Lots of people love it. I have the glue but just haven't tried it yet.

lizzy 09-01-2013 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by glendel1944 (Post 6265223)
Do you use just regular white Elmer's glue? And is it permanent after it dries? I would have to use table since I have bad knees and can't crawl around on floor.

I covered my dining room table with the pad and then proceeded to use elmers washable glue to do all of the quilt, backing, batting, and top. I did have my husband help me when I had to shift it and smooth it out, but it turned out great. I used the bottle and just put dots instead of pins. For small quilts, I have used my planning wall to do the same thing. Great results, better than pinning. Saves on the knees!

bigsister63 09-01-2013 05:41 AM

I use 505 spray basting INSIDE in my basement. Hardly any odor unlike many of the other spray bastng products. I once used a "quilting spray basting" that was SO strong that it was really stinky even out side! I would suggest that you order 505 on line (can not find it locally) and try it- you will really like it. Spray basting is easier, quicker than pinning. Also the quilt sandwich is lighter and easier to work with than using pins that make quilt heavier. Also spray basing really lets yiou flop the quilt around without it moving since the layers are "glued" together.

Since you live where it is hot/warm most of the time you can sandwich you quilt OUTSIDE. Just get a large table and put a large piece of plywood on top and use that to sandwich your top. I love working on quilts outside in the fresh air! (in the shade of course)

Use a longarmer if you can afford it.(personaly I can not afford it). It is hard work to quilt your own large quilts what with stuffing the top thru the machine.

AZ Jane 09-01-2013 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by Dalronix (Post 6265281)
I would love to know the answer to that as no one was able to answer my question here:

http://www.quiltingboard.com/main-f1...ml#post6248015

The washable school glue, the "clear" means it dries clear but is still washable (washes out)
https://www.officeworks.com.au/retai...lues/JA0366860

tessagin 09-01-2013 06:51 AM

Check out Katie Amelie on YouTube. It's a really good video on how to baste a large quilt on a small table.

OrangeSherbet 09-01-2013 07:21 AM

Altho you didn't include Sharon Schambler's basting system as an option I will suggest it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhwNylePFAA

There are 2 videos...

dorismae904 09-01-2013 01:04 PM

My design wall is an old flannel backed plastic tablecloth pinned to the wall. If your quilt will fit try pinning the backing, spray with basting spray, smooth over the batting, spray that with basting spray and then smooth over the top. Works really well for me but none of my quilts are that large, maybe 43 x 52.

carrieg 09-01-2013 01:12 PM

I still use the bent safety pins for basting. Don't like the spray and haven't tried glue. I agree with the others that said to use a squiggly line or serpentine stitch down the sashings.

caspharm 09-01-2013 01:14 PM

I love the Web Bond spray. It smells less and works great. I found out about at the LQS (Quiltique). I use it when I get to the bottom of my quilt and am floating the top on my LA.

Kris P 09-02-2013 04:55 AM

I use basting spray and a 6 foot banquet table in the backyard. This way, I don't have to worry about overspray getting on my carpets and surrounding furniture.


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