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frannella 02-17-2012 07:11 PM

Washing Out Elmer's School Glue After Binding Your Quilt?
 
Was interested in all the posts on Sharon Schamber's binding technique using Elmer's school glue. I just finished a quilt binding using Sharon's terrific method and, per instructions on Elmer's web site, put that quilt straight into the bathtub to soak for 24 hours in room temperature water immediately after the last stitch. (woo hoo--a finished project!)

I am a fan, too, but for all of you who have been doing this for a while, especially those of you who said the glue washes out easily, what steps do you take to make sure all the glue gets gone? It doesn't really matter in a wall hanging or table runner, but what about bed and baby quilts? TIA

charmpacksplus 02-17-2012 07:54 PM

I make a lot of baby quilts and I use the elmer school glue just at the corners. When I'm done I wash them in the washing machine in plain cold water, no detergent, and the glue washes out just fine.

Handcraftsbyjen 02-17-2012 08:03 PM

I've never heard of using school glue before.

fatquarters 02-17-2012 08:08 PM

i did a test piece with scraps. Put in my washer with detergent and loaded the glue, It all came out just fine.

Havplenty 02-17-2012 08:34 PM

yes it does come out fine without having to presoak it. i have never done that. i just throw my quilts in the washer with some detergent, presto no glue.

Havplenty 02-17-2012 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Handcraftsbyjen (Post 4984960)
I've never heard of using school glue before.


it is a really nifty way to hold your bindings in place for machine or hand quilting. google search for Sharon Schamber's binding technique video. you may enjoy this method once you try it.:)

bluteddi 02-17-2012 08:42 PM

I glue EVERYTHING that I need to applique or temp hold down...... for appliques I use glue sticks...

Havplenty 02-17-2012 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by bluteddi (Post 4985024)
I glue EVERYTHING that I need to applique or temp hold down...... for appliques I use glue sticks...

i luv the glue sticks!!:)

RkayD 02-17-2012 08:57 PM

i just toss it in the washer..never had a problem with it not coming out and I use glue ALOT.

earthwalker 02-17-2012 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Havplenty (Post 4985009)
yes it does come out fine without having to presoak it. i have never done that. i just throw my quilts in the washer with some detergent, presto no glue.

Me too. The glue is pretty harmless and acid free.

Sally J 02-18-2012 06:55 AM

Elmers School Glue is really just starch washes out easily. I just throw in the washing machine like always when finished and never any glue left. It's a great way to do bindings.

Ardelle Coult 02-18-2012 07:01 AM

I am a little confused about the glue. Sharon says to be sure to buy "washable" glue - doesn't washable mean that you can wash it without it washing out. Wouldn't water soluble mean that it washes out? I use the glue frequently with great results, but just wondered about the wording.

ckcowl 02-18-2012 08:05 AM

every quilt i make gets tossed into the washing machine- washed then dried as the last step- all of the glue washes away....no problem
if i make a quilt that is to be used i expect it to hold up under normal care---wash it- dry it- put it back on the bed---i've never had any sign of glue or fusable stay after normal laundering

TerryQuilter 02-18-2012 08:11 AM

Just recently found the Shamber glue method and love it. I just toss the quilt in the washing machine when finished and the glue comes out fine. I have never soaked the quilt for 24 hrs before washing.

nativetexan 02-18-2012 08:33 AM

he, he. i tried to glue the binding once and evidently used too much glue. it ironed right through the fabric. yikes. I haven't tried it again.

knlsmith 02-18-2012 08:36 AM

This is the only way i do binding. I never heard of soaking it in tub, sounds like a waste of time and a big pain in thr butt. I just throw it in the washer...works every time. :)

omaluvs2quilt 02-18-2012 09:31 AM

Been doing it for a couple years, no soaking necessary, just wash as usual and never any residual glue left over. I do use the small metal tips on a small bottle I bought from the art store (they also make some for quilter's, Roxanne's I think). I found that the only problem if using too much is that it's really hard to stitch through...gotta get the pliers out to get the needle thru the corners, lol.

dublb 02-18-2012 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Ardelle Coult (Post 4985796)
I am a little confused about the glue. Sharon says to be sure to buy "washable" glue - doesn't washable mean that you can wash it without it washing out. Wouldn't water soluble mean that it washes out? I use the glue frequently with great results, but just wondered about the wording.

Washable means that it will wash out of the kid's clothes when they get it on everything at school.:D
I use glue on everything that I would have used pins with before. This is one of the reasons that I wash all of my quilts after I'm through quilting. I also want to know if anything is going to come apart & I want to get that krinkled look.

frannella 02-18-2012 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by TerryQuilter (Post 4985979)
Just recently found the Shamber glue method and love it. I just toss the quilt in the washing machine when finished and the glue comes out fine. I have never soaked the quilt for 24 hrs before washing.

Thank you all for your feedback. If you're interested, here's the link to Elmer's that specifies soaking in room-temperature water for 24 hours <http://www.elmers.com/about/faqs/clean-up-solutions> (and avoiding dryers until after natural in-the-air drying). I have soaked my creation over night-for about 18 hours and there is a visible film in the water but I can't tell how much of that film is from all the starch I used at EVERY step from cutting to binding to sewing and how much from the glue I used all around the edges. I have just drained the filmy water and drawn a new warmer-temperature tub into which I put some ovus soap. Think I am going to skip soaking for another 6 hours, rinse well, and start air drying.

Thanks again for the feedback--I tend to be a compulsive instruction follower and it's nice to have approval to 'skip a step.' ;->)

PS to charmpackplus--I am an old Grand Coteau girl (from about 100 years ago)--nice to see 'Lafayette' flit across my screen....I envy you your proximity to AllBrands....

Prism99 02-18-2012 10:50 PM

I wouldn't soak a quilt for 24 hours, as I don't like potentially bleeding fabric touching other fabric for that long while wet. If you let some washable glue dry on your hand, you can pretty well tell how easily it will wash out by rubbing it under some water. White water-soluble glue dissolves in water; I honestly don't understand why it would need soaking, especially not for 24 hours.

Edit: I'm not seeing a link to the Elmer's site mentioned by frannella. I have a bottle of Elmer's washable school glue here, and on the back it says "TO WASH: Pre-soak 10 minutes in cold water. Follow garment maker washing instructions." Ingredients are not specified, but my understanding is that this glue is simply starch.

applique 02-19-2012 05:31 AM

I hate glue sticks. When using it to keep the edges down they fray the intricate applique pieces. I use the Elmers to keep the edges very flat and tight to the background piece with no fraying..

pinkberrykay 02-19-2012 06:22 AM

I just found out about SS binding technique and used it for the first time yesterday. All I have to say is WOW, it makes binding so much easier!!!

Brandi 02-19-2012 09:11 AM

Do you just glue it? Do you use any wonder under too?

jmabby 02-19-2012 09:31 AM

When I used ESG (Elemer's School Glue) it seemed to harden and was hard to applique. Anyone else have that problem?

frannella 02-19-2012 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Prism99 (Post 4987808)
I wouldn't soak a quilt for 24 hours, as I don't like potentially bleeding fabric touching other fabric for that long while wet. If you let some washable glue dry on your hand, you can pretty well tell how easily it will wash out by rubbing it under some water. White water-soluble glue dissolves in water; I honestly don't understand why it would need soaking, especially not for 24 hours.

Edit: I'm not seeing a link to the Elmer's site mentioned by frannella. I have a bottle of Elmer's washable school glue here, and on the back it says "TO WASH: Pre-soak 10 minutes in cold water. Follow garment maker washing instructions." Ingredients are not specified, but my understanding is that this glue is simply starch.

Oops--sorry my cut and paste didn't work. It's on the Elmer's site in FAQ section under "Clean up Solutions" <http://www.elmers.com/about/faqs/clean-up-solutions> : "....when [glue is] dry, do not use hot water, dry cleaning solvents, a hot drum dryer or iron before the removal of the adhesive is complete, as they can fuse the adhesive film irreversibly, making removal impossible. Soaking in room temperature water for 24 hours or longer will help to redisperse or soften the film. After soaking, wash the fabric in a normal wash cycle and allow it to dry at room temperature. Check for discoloration and stiffness on drying. If so, repeat the process until the item is cleaned to your satisfaction."

I was thinking the soaking made sense because you were encasing heat-set glue in fabric, but I am really glad to know the 24-hour soak is unnecessary. Even though I used a lot of bright solids in my quilt, nothing ran, but I prewash everything in Synthapol and ovus soap before starting and if I can't get a purple or red (worst offenders) to stop leaching color I don't use the fabric.

Buckeye Rose 02-19-2012 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Havplenty (Post 4985028)
i luv the glue sticks!!:)

Me too! I buy glue sticks when they have the back to school sales....I use them instead of the liquid glue...easier

Peckish 02-19-2012 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by jmabby (Post 4988818)
When I used ESG (Elemer's School Glue) it seemed to harden and was hard to applique. Anyone else have that problem?

I did at first, and realized I was using waaaay too much glue. I put a metal tip on my bottle of clue, use 1 drop every half-inch or so, and now I have no problems. You only need enough glue to make sure the applique stays in one spot.

omaluvs2quilt 02-20-2012 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by frannella (Post 4988839)
Oops--sorry my cut and paste didn't work. It's on the Elmer's site in FAQ section under "Clean up Solutions" <http: clean-up-solutions="" faqs="" about="" www.elmers.com=""> : "....when [glue is] dry, do not use hot water, dry cleaning solvents, a hot drum dryer or iron before the removal of the adhesive is complete, as they can fuse the adhesive film irreversibly, making removal impossible. Soaking in room temperature water for 24 hours or longer will help to redisperse or soften the film. After soaking, wash the fabric in a normal wash cycle and allow it to dry at room temperature. Check for discoloration and stiffness on drying. If so, repeat the process until the item is cleaned to your satisfaction."

I was thinking the soaking made sense because you were encasing heat-set glue in fabric, but I am really glad to know the 24-hour soak is unnecessary. Even though I used a lot of bright solids in my quilt, nothing ran, but I prewash everything in Synthapol and ovus soap before starting and if I can't get a purple or red (worst offenders) to stop leaching color I don't use the fabric.

I'm thinking this is about a different glue than "school glue"? It's very important to only use this type of glue, as I believe it is starch based. When using the elmer's school glue, you actually need to heat set it, and it still washes out just fine every time.

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