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Thread: Washing Out Elmer's School Glue After Binding Your Quilt?

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    Washing Out Elmer's School Glue After Binding Your Quilt?

    Was interested in all the posts on Sharon Schamber's binding technique using Elmer's school glue. I just finished a quilt binding using Sharon's terrific method and, per instructions on Elmer's web site, put that quilt straight into the bathtub to soak for 24 hours in room temperature water immediately after the last stitch. (woo hoo--a finished project!)

    I am a fan, too, but for all of you who have been doing this for a while, especially those of you who said the glue washes out easily, what steps do you take to make sure all the glue gets gone? It doesn't really matter in a wall hanging or table runner, but what about bed and baby quilts? TIA
    I didn't make this beautiful GFG quilt but it's on my wish list to do

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    I make a lot of baby quilts and I use the elmer school glue just at the corners. When I'm done I wash them in the washing machine in plain cold water, no detergent, and the glue washes out just fine.

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    I've never heard of using school glue before.

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    i did a test piece with scraps. Put in my washer with detergent and loaded the glue, It all came out just fine.
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    yes it does come out fine without having to presoak it. i have never done that. i just throw my quilts in the washer with some detergent, presto no glue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handcraftsbyjen View Post
    I've never heard of using school glue before.

    it is a really nifty way to hold your bindings in place for machine or hand quilting. google search for Sharon Schamber's binding technique video. you may enjoy this method once you try it.
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    I glue EVERYTHING that I need to applique or temp hold down...... for appliques I use glue sticks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluteddi View Post
    I glue EVERYTHING that I need to applique or temp hold down...... for appliques I use glue sticks...
    i luv the glue sticks!!
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    i just toss it in the washer..never had a problem with it not coming out and I use glue ALOT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havplenty View Post
    yes it does come out fine without having to presoak it. i have never done that. i just throw my quilts in the washer with some detergent, presto no glue.
    Me too. The glue is pretty harmless and acid free.

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    Elmers School Glue is really just starch washes out easily. I just throw in the washing machine like always when finished and never any glue left. It's a great way to do bindings.

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    I am a little confused about the glue. Sharon says to be sure to buy "washable" glue - doesn't washable mean that you can wash it without it washing out. Wouldn't water soluble mean that it washes out? I use the glue frequently with great results, but just wondered about the wording.
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    every quilt i make gets tossed into the washing machine- washed then dried as the last step- all of the glue washes away....no problem
    if i make a quilt that is to be used i expect it to hold up under normal care---wash it- dry it- put it back on the bed---i've never had any sign of glue or fusable stay after normal laundering
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    Just recently found the Shamber glue method and love it. I just toss the quilt in the washing machine when finished and the glue comes out fine. I have never soaked the quilt for 24 hrs before washing.
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    he, he. i tried to glue the binding once and evidently used too much glue. it ironed right through the fabric. yikes. I haven't tried it again.
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    This is the only way i do binding. I never heard of soaking it in tub, sounds like a waste of time and a big pain in thr butt. I just throw it in the washer...works every time.

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    Been doing it for a couple years, no soaking necessary, just wash as usual and never any residual glue left over. I do use the small metal tips on a small bottle I bought from the art store (they also make some for quilter's, Roxanne's I think). I found that the only problem if using too much is that it's really hard to stitch through...gotta get the pliers out to get the needle thru the corners, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardelle Coult View Post
    I am a little confused about the glue. Sharon says to be sure to buy "washable" glue - doesn't washable mean that you can wash it without it washing out. Wouldn't water soluble mean that it washes out? I use the glue frequently with great results, but just wondered about the wording.
    Washable means that it will wash out of the kid's clothes when they get it on everything at school.
    I use glue on everything that I would have used pins with before. This is one of the reasons that I wash all of my quilts after I'm through quilting. I also want to know if anything is going to come apart & I want to get that krinkled look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryQuilter View Post
    Just recently found the Shamber glue method and love it. I just toss the quilt in the washing machine when finished and the glue comes out fine. I have never soaked the quilt for 24 hrs before washing.
    Thank you all for your feedback. If you're interested, here's the link to Elmer's that specifies soaking in room-temperature water for 24 hours (and avoiding dryers until after natural in-the-air drying). I have soaked my creation over night-for about 18 hours and there is a visible film in the water but I can't tell how much of that film is from all the starch I used at EVERY step from cutting to binding to sewing and how much from the glue I used all around the edges. I have just drained the filmy water and drawn a new warmer-temperature tub into which I put some ovus soap. Think I am going to skip soaking for another 6 hours, rinse well, and start air drying.

    Thanks again for the feedback--I tend to be a compulsive instruction follower and it's nice to have approval to 'skip a step.' ;->)

    PS to charmpackplus--I am an old Grand Coteau girl (from about 100 years ago)--nice to see 'Lafayette' flit across my screen....I envy you your proximity to AllBrands....
    I didn't make this beautiful GFG quilt but it's on my wish list to do

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    I wouldn't soak a quilt for 24 hours, as I don't like potentially bleeding fabric touching other fabric for that long while wet. If you let some washable glue dry on your hand, you can pretty well tell how easily it will wash out by rubbing it under some water. White water-soluble glue dissolves in water; I honestly don't understand why it would need soaking, especially not for 24 hours.

    Edit: I'm not seeing a link to the Elmer's site mentioned by frannella. I have a bottle of Elmer's washable school glue here, and on the back it says "TO WASH: Pre-soak 10 minutes in cold water. Follow garment maker washing instructions." Ingredients are not specified, but my understanding is that this glue is simply starch.
    Last edited by Prism99; 02-18-2012 at 10:52 PM.

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    I hate glue sticks. When using it to keep the edges down they fray the intricate applique pieces. I use the Elmers to keep the edges very flat and tight to the background piece with no fraying..
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    I just found out about SS binding technique and used it for the first time yesterday. All I have to say is WOW, it makes binding so much easier!!!

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    Do you just glue it? Do you use any wonder under too?

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    When I used ESG (Elemer's School Glue) it seemed to harden and was hard to applique. Anyone else have that problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prism99 View Post
    I wouldn't soak a quilt for 24 hours, as I don't like potentially bleeding fabric touching other fabric for that long while wet. If you let some washable glue dry on your hand, you can pretty well tell how easily it will wash out by rubbing it under some water. White water-soluble glue dissolves in water; I honestly don't understand why it would need soaking, especially not for 24 hours.

    Edit: I'm not seeing a link to the Elmer's site mentioned by frannella. I have a bottle of Elmer's washable school glue here, and on the back it says "TO WASH: Pre-soak 10 minutes in cold water. Follow garment maker washing instructions." Ingredients are not specified, but my understanding is that this glue is simply starch.
    Oops--sorry my cut and paste didn't work. It's on the Elmer's site in FAQ section under "Clean up Solutions" : "....when [glue is] dry, do not use hot water, dry cleaning solvents, a hot drum dryer or iron before the removal of the adhesive is complete, as they can fuse the adhesive film irreversibly, making removal impossible. Soaking in room temperature water for 24 hours or longer will help to redisperse or soften the film. After soaking, wash the fabric in a normal wash cycle and allow it to dry at room temperature. Check for discoloration and stiffness on drying. If so, repeat the process until the item is cleaned to your satisfaction."

    I was thinking the soaking made sense because you were encasing heat-set glue in fabric, but I am really glad to know the 24-hour soak is unnecessary. Even though I used a lot of bright solids in my quilt, nothing ran, but I prewash everything in Synthapol and ovus soap before starting and if I can't get a purple or red (worst offenders) to stop leaching color I don't use the fabric.
    I didn't make this beautiful GFG quilt but it's on my wish list to do

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