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Fraew 11-26-2012 06:11 PM

I use it for English Paper piecing and hand applique. Love it!

FabricHeaven 11-26-2012 06:53 PM

As a relative new quilter, I have followed this discussion with interest. My question is how do I wind a bobbin from a cone? I have just picked up sewing after a 30 year absence and am only familiar with winding bobbins from small spools of thread. Thanks very much.

LyndaOH 11-26-2012 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by FabricHeaven (Post 5681979)
As a relative new quilter, I have followed this discussion with interest. My question is how do I wind a bobbin from a cone? I have just picked up sewing after a 30 year absence and am only familiar with winding bobbins from small spools of thread. Thanks very much.

It depends on the sewing machine, but on mine you do it exactly the same way. Place the cone on the spool holder and thread it the same way you would if you were winding from a spool. If your machine can't use a cone, you can set the cone behind the machine (usually on a cone holder), thread it through the top of the cone holder and if your machine has one, through the little loop on your machine and then through the usual patch for winding a bobbin.

If your machine doesn't have a little loop built in, you can tape a safety pin to the machine and use the little loop in the pin as your first spot in the path.

I know I haven't explained this very well; maybe someone else will come along with a diagram. Actually, here's a much better explanation: http://www.ehow.com/how_7689581_use-...g-machine.html

BellaBoo 11-26-2012 07:32 PM

I use a thread holder (my favorite is this one: https://www.superiorthreads.com/shop...thread-holder/ Nancy Notions has it on sale sometimes) to wind bobbins from big cones. It can be used horizontal or vertical.

FabricHeaven 11-26-2012 07:36 PM

Thank you both so much. You have been very helpful.

luvstoquilt301 11-27-2012 02:46 AM

I USED to use it for piecing. I like to put a hot iron on my blocks. When a top went onto a long arm quilting machine, the seams were popping open. I am using up what I have left for machine stitching the binding on.

ghquilter53 11-27-2012 04:49 AM

Bottom line in polyester and works very well in my bobbin for machine quilting. My machine doesn't like it for the top thread. I also use this thread for hand applique. I purchased a couple of the selections of prewound bobbins and put them in a round bobbin holder for easy carrying.

stchenfool 11-27-2012 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by An Arm Long (Post 5678989)
I use bottom line in my bobbins alot. It is 60wt - very fine and strong. ( I think nylon or blend - my label does not say) Because it is so fine, I don't have to change the bobbin so often. At first I was afraid the stitches would not show because it is so thin, but I find that is not the case.

So good to know - always learn something new! Thank you all!

maryfrang 11-27-2012 10:12 AM

My APQS long arm just loves Bottom Line for the bobbin. I use in all the time.

Pepita 11-27-2012 11:26 AM

I have used bottom line quite a lot for quilting and piecing. It does hold a great deal more per bobbin than a spool wound with a 'regular' thread. Many years ago I made some heirloom machine clothes. The very fine bobbin thread (which is the same/similar ) as bottom line. I think you either love it or hate it. I ran out of the color of bottom line while quilting and went and bought a similar product. Not the same--as far as tension. Yes when you use bottom line in quilting you have to monkey around with the tension. But that is nothing new, we all have had threads that needs adjustment.
When I used the bottom line in the quilt, once I got the right tension-maybe 2 adjustments, it continued to sew perfectly. When I used (aurafil I think) I had many adjustments, and was blessing out the thread. If you like what you use, then use it. I think bottom line is a poly or a nylon, which is very strong.

89a677 11-27-2012 12:46 PM

I just used the bottom line thread when I quilted a quilt with my embroidery machine. I liked it alot

margecam52 11-27-2012 01:46 PM

Won't cut into anything...old quilter's tale. it's a finer thread is all...same as 40 wt poly, but finer. It can be used in the bobbin for embroidery...most newer embroidery machines call for 60-100 wt in the bobbin for decorative or embroidery work. It's also, as others said, nice for applique, and also for doing quilting if you are doing feathers, or tiny stipple...helps keep the build up to a minimum.

I also use Serger thread (oh no!! LOL) in the bobbin and for sewing at times. Does not work for embroidery bobbins though...like any 50 wt thread...when doing decorative (includes zigzag) or embroidery, will cause shredding and nests on the underside. Ugh...not a good thing for embroidery.
Marge


Originally Posted by Scissor Queen (Post 5679011)
Bottom line is intended for embroidery. When you're doing machine embroidery and have a thread dense design you don't want the thread so thick on the back side.

I personally don't see much point to using it to piece with. Sure it's finer and you get more on a bobbin but at the same time you've got two different threads in your seam and one may cut the other over time.


margecam52 11-27-2012 01:52 PM

I place the cone of thread (serger or quilting/embroidery cones) in a tall glass or jar set behind and close to my machine...I run the thread up through the guide (I have a Futura, so this would be the guide above the spool holder...but if you have a spool holder up top..you can use a large paper clip to make a thread guide...loop it around the spool pin, tape it...have other end out and looped...and that's what you feed the thread through...thing is to have the thread unfurl straight up, not at an angle. There are cone holders you can get...or, in a pinch...a clothes hanger hung on a curtain above the cone of thread works...long ways to the machine...but it works.

Once you have a guide above the cone...do your bobbins as you usually do.



Originally Posted by FabricHeaven (Post 5681979)
As a relative new quilter, I have followed this discussion with interest. My question is how do I wind a bobbin from a cone? I have just picked up sewing after a 30 year absence and am only familiar with winding bobbins from small spools of thread. Thanks very much.


A1penny 11-27-2012 03:55 PM

I took a class with Sue Nickels this summer, and she uses 'Bottom Line' for the bobbin, sometimes for the top. I have been using it and absolutely love it. I used it for the top and the bottom when I was doing a lot of stitch in the ditch. It gives ithe definition without looking terrible if you are not always terribly accurate!!

bobquilt3 11-27-2012 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by LyndaOH (Post 5679485)
Another place to buy both So Fine and Bottom Line, as well as many other threads, is www.sewthankful.com. They are great to deal with and have frequent specials.

Neat site. Thanks for sharing.

HuskerQuilter 11-28-2012 08:35 AM

I love it for the "not having to refill the bobbin so often'...but I've had it melt if the iron is too hot! So, I've strayed away from using it. I love the thread from Connecting Threads. They have great collections..and I use it top and bobbin.

gramquilter2 11-28-2012 04:45 PM

bottom line thread is great for machine embroidery and I have never had any of it melt when I have ironed my projects

Suze9395 12-05-2012 07:13 PM

I just ordered my first batch of Bottom Line and So Fine #50. I have been using the Bottom Line for my English paper piecing. I love it!! It absolutely glides through the fabric. It most closely reminds me of my silk thread. It is so fine I was having issues with it slipping out of my needle. So, I treated it like my silk thread and tied it to my needle. Awesome.

bonclay 12-27-2013 06:55 PM

Thank you for the input on the bottom line thread..i was also told that you needed to use like threads.
I have been struggling with my old singer machine and the bottom thread..my just have to try that out.
I'm looking at getting a small to mid arm quilter because of the volume of quilts i do. The frustration with tention... as i really love the finished effect of free motion quilting and have had to straight line quilt. Looking forward to getting back to free motion soon.
thanks again fot the info for the bottom line:thumbup:

Ladibug 12-27-2013 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by HouseDragon (Post 5679308)
??? Can you please point out where you found this information on their website?

I have also seen the before somewhere, where researching what thread to use. I was under the impression you weren't supposed to mix cotton and polyesters on a quilt and in fabric also.

Ladibug

stillclock 12-27-2013 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by carslo (Post 5680673)
I just pushed my like :) button for this comment. I, too, have been sewing since the 70s and mixing top and bottom threads with no problems with wear and tear - only problem I ever had was using 100 % cotton thread on top and bottom and the quilt is giving way in places after 8 years of use.

thanks for this. the women at the fabric stores say the same thing, but the lqs owner gave me a free spool of 100% cotton aurifil to try. i have been piecing with it and it has broken a couple of times in the machine. it feels so lovely, but i am wary...

aileen

quilter2090 12-28-2013 01:14 PM

I agree,but it's hard to stop old info.


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