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Cari-in-Oly 09-28-2014 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Sunlover53 (Post 6905179)
I found this article by someone who did a lot of research on sewing machines. The title explains a lot. Very extensive if you have the time to read it all. This was written in 2007 but I'm sure a lot of this article is very true.

http://www.evidently.org/2007/02/too-much-information/

Much of what he said is true, but some of it is inaccurate, especially the areas where he glosses over Brother. Where he talks about Brother being swallowed up by a conglomerate is not so. Yes Brother is a big conglomerate, but sewing machines are what they started with and they expanded from there into other products.

Cari

Cari-in-Oly 09-28-2014 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Grannyh67 (Post 6905427)
I also have an Elna 740 which I was told is made by Janome now.

Yes it was. So are some Bernette Deco embroidery machines, White machines and a few others.

Cari

Cari-in-Oly 09-28-2014 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by carolynjo (Post 6905619)
Years ago Kenmore machines were from many different manufacturers, as were their fridges and stoves. Don't know about that now.

Every hard lines product Sears sells is manufactured by someone else and the Kenmore name put on it. That's how Sears has always done it. Janome makes their sewing machines now, has for some time.

Cari

Cari-in-Oly 09-28-2014 07:22 PM

"At one time Brother, Janome and Kenmore all shared the same manufacturer, that's why they are so similar and you can often interchange the feet. "
This is not true. While Kenmore machines have had several different manufacturers including Janome who makes them now, they have never been built by Brother. Brother and Janome are two separate companies, one has never been built by the other. Possible exception is sergers.

If you look at the Brother PE-150 embroidery machine, you can find that exact same machine under several different names. I own a Babylock 6 needle embroidery machine, which is exactly the same as the 6 needle Brother embroidery machine except the Babylock has a joined cursive alphabet and the Brother doesn't, that's what distinguishes one from the other. Same manufacturer, different features.

Babylock is Brothers' high end brand. Always has been.

Cari

Onebyone 09-28-2014 07:36 PM

here is the way it was in the email. It was at the end after the description of the new machine and shop news. It was a legit email from a real quilt shop and dealer.Anyone being bothered over a post format or wording seems surely has too much stress in their lives. Stress kills. . laughter heaLs.
Brother makes machines by other names.
When you are deciding between 2 machines with different names made by the
Brother company,BUY Brother- there is no other.




Cari-in-Oly 09-28-2014 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by madamekelly (Post 6905829)
I have lower end Brother from Walmart that my daughter bought me, and a high end Brother from a dealer. That said, I would not part with either. The low end has way fewer stitches and bells and whistles, but is a work horse in its own right, and has travelled all over the country under a Grayhound bus and still works great if just a bit more vibration and noise than the high end one. The high end is the machine I would design if given the opportunity. The best feature for me is the needle threader since I can no longer see to do so. I hope this is helpful?

What differentiates a good machine from a low end machine is the low end machines usually don't have a metal internal frame. That's where vibration comes in and machines that won't stay in time, etc.. There are some decent inexpensive machines though, it all depends on what you want out of them. Most of my machines are from the 50s and 60s but I have a 10 yr old Euro Pro and a Juki I got last year that I like and use.

Cari

Cari-in-Oly 09-28-2014 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by mike'sgirl (Post 6906099)
I have read many posts saying what a good machines Brothers are. I guess I got a dud. My mother in law bought me one about 22 yrs ago, probably from Wal-Mart or Hancocks, I'm not sure, but that machine never would work for me. She would fool with it and it would sew for a little bit then the tension would go. I finally got rid of it. I thought from then on that Brother machines were all bad quality. I guess it was just that one.

Every brand has their lemons. I'm a huge fan of vintage 1950s and 1960s Brothers. The quality was as good if not better than Singer, even back then. By the 1970s, most manufacturers were using at least some plastic parts in their machines, and the 80s and 90s saw a few inferior machines by almost every brand. I had a Brother VX780 that was such a cute little machine but didn't sew worth a darn compared to my vintage ones.

Cari

Maggieloe 09-29-2014 04:01 PM

Yes, it is true. Brother is not the "only" machine, but it is often the same as baby locks but with a lower price tag. They are manufactured by the same company. The Brother Nouvelle 1500s is the same and the Baby Lock 1500 but 1/3 to 1/2 the price. This occurs with all the manufactures - sometimes just cosmetic differences. Shop around!

naosew 09-29-2014 04:31 PM

I was told that Janome makes Elna and Kenmore only.

Cari-in-Oly 09-29-2014 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by naosew (Post 6909166)
I was told that Janome makes Elna and Kenmore only.

They also make the Bernette Deco 330 and 340 embroidery machines. I may have mis spoke about White, not sure about other models but Brother makes the White 3300 embroidery machine.

Cari

Cari-in-Oly 09-29-2014 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by Onebyone (Post 6907852)
here is the way it was in the email. It was at the end after the description of the new machine and shop news. It was a legit email from a real quilt shop and dealer.Anyone being bothered over a post format or wording seems surely has too much stress in their lives. Stress kills. . laughter heaLs.
Brother makes machines by other names.
When you are deciding between 2 machines with different names made by the
Brother company,BUY Brother- there is no other.



It's marketing. Usually when there are two brands made by the same company, of course the company brand will be a bit better somewhere. For example, the almost identical Janome and Elna embroidery machines. Both built by Janome. What's the difference? The Janome machines have a bit better software in them but the Elna costs more.

Cari


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