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What do you think of this?
I received an email from an online dealer. This was part of the email:
Brother makes machines by other names. When you are deciding between 2 machines with different names made by theBrother company,BUY Brother- there is no other. |
This doesn't make sense to me!
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I would guess that they also make dedicated machines to big box stores that work on a profit margin per unit system. They may be made by Brother (indicated somewhere on the box) but labeled XYZ. There can be cheaper components to make the profit margin. Where a true Brother machine has it's usual quality. But thats just my guess.
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When I was researching to buy my sewing machine I found out there were only four companies that made sewing machines.
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I was told by a Babylock dealer that Brother & Babylock are made in the same factory. But of course, being a Babylock dealer, they told me that the Babylock models are the superior models.
I looked at some of the Babylock machines and I could tell a lot of the bits and pieces matched my Brother machine. I couldn't really tell if they were "superior" or not, though. |
I don't get it. I guess I am in the same group as Prism99.
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Originally Posted by zennia
(Post 6904773)
When I was researching to buy my sewing machine I found out there were only four companies that made sewing machines.
Cari |
Originally Posted by Sewnoma
(Post 6904776)
I was told by a Babylock dealer that Brother & Babylock are made in the same factory. But of course, being a Babylock dealer, they told me that the Babylock models are the superior models.
I looked at some of the Babylock machines and I could tell a lot of the bits and pieces matched my Brother machine. I couldn't really tell if they were "superior" or not, though. Cari |
Originally Posted by Onebyone
(Post 6904736)
I received an email from an online dealer. This was part of the email:
Brother makes machines by other names. When you are deciding between 2 machines with different names made by theBrother company,BUY Brother- there is no other. Here in the states brother has a lower end line of machines called Simplicity. I've heard they're about on the same level as the lower end Brothers. I don't know if Brother still badges machines under other names here. Back in the '50s and '60s Brother built many badged machines such as Wizard, Atlas, Home Mark and many other names. All of them were twins to Brother models and all were the same excellent quality. Cari |
I've been told that Brother also make Janome machines. I do know some (if not all) feet are interchangeable. I have 3 Brother embroidery machines and no complaints about any of them. Perhaps the other brands have some cheaper parts, as 'toverly' suggests.
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It doesn't make sense and they need to fire their proof reader. Or hire one.
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I found this article by someone who did a lot of research on sewing machines. The title explains a lot. Very extensive if you have the time to read it all. This was written in 2007 but I'm sure a lot of this article is very true.
http://www.evidently.org/2007/02/too-much-information/ |
Singer, Viking and Pfaff are now owned by the same company - SVP Worldwide.
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Originally Posted by Sunlover53
(Post 6905179)
I found this article by someone who did a lot of research on sewing machines. The title explains a lot. Very extensive if you have the time to read it all. This was written in 2007 but I'm sure a lot of this article is very true.
http://www.evidently.org/2007/02/too-much-information/ |
Well I own a Babylock and it is supposed to be the pow end of Brother. I was told when I bought it which was about 15 years ago or so , it has been a good machine. It is an Esanta ESe2 it does embroidery too. They made a Brother that was supposed to be the same thing only more expensive. I also have an Elna 740 which I was told is made by Janome now. I guess we never know who makes it, lol....I just buy what I like and know is a good machine, I love Husqvarnia Brands and that is what I buy now. I think there are many good machines and we have to choose what is best for us. It is also important how you care for your machine. That being said if you like Brother then buy Brother. I think the letter was meant to mean, make sure it is a Brother not one just made by Brother.
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A lot of big companies produce their products under different labels. Same machine, same peaches etc as big name brand often using the store label. Goes back to the saying ...you pay for the name. But always do your research
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is that like buying a Lincoln or a Ford?????
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Originally Posted by Grannyh67
(Post 6905427)
Well I own a Babylock and it is supposed to be the pow end of Brother. I was told when I bought it which was about 15 years ago or so , it has been a good machine. It is an Esanta ESe2 it does embroidery too. They made a Brother that was supposed to be the same thing only more expensive. I also have an Elna 740 which I was told is made by Janome now. I guess we never know who makes it, lol....I just buy what I like and know is a good machine, I love Husqvarnia Brands and that is what I buy now. I think there are many good machines and we have to choose what is best for us. It is also important how you care for your machine. That being said if you like Brother then buy Brother. I think the letter was meant to mean, make sure it is a Brother not one just made by Brother.
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so that's why my moms 1960 brother feet interchange perfectly with my 1990s Kenmore and my 2010 Janome!
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Years ago Kenmore machines were from many different manufacturers, as were their fridges and stoves. Don't know about that now.
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Originally Posted by gale
(Post 6904904)
It doesn't make sense and they need to fire their proof reader. Or hire one.
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It doesn't make sense and they need to fire their proof reader. Or hire one. |
Many machines share the same manufacturer. At one time Brother, Janome and Kenmore all shared the same manufacturer, that's why they are so similar and you can often interchange the feet. One year Euro Pro had a machine that was made by the same manufacturer as Janome and Brother, very high end, retailed for about $200, excellent machine. If you look at the Brother PE-150 embroidery machine, you can find that exact same machine under several different names. I own a Babylock 6 needle embroidery machine, which is exactly the same as the 6 needle Brother embroidery machine except the Babylock has a joined cursive alphabet and the Brother doesn't, that's what distinguishes one from the other. Same manufacturer, different features.
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I have lower end Brother from Walmart that my daughter bought me, and a high end Brother from a dealer. That said, I would not part with either. The low end has way fewer stitches and bells and whistles, but is a work horse in its own right, and has travelled all over the country under a Grayhound bus and still works great if just a bit more vibration and noise than the high end one. The high end is the machine I would design if given the opportunity. The best feature for me is the needle threader since I can no longer see to do so. I hope this is helpful?
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Originally Posted by Sewnoma
(Post 6904776)
I was told by a Babylock dealer that Brother & Babylock are made in the same factory. But of course, being a Babylock dealer, they told me that the Babylock models are the superior models.
I looked at some of the Babylock machines and I could tell a lot of the bits and pieces matched my Brother machine. I couldn't really tell if they were "superior" or not, though. |
Makes no sense to me either. Maybe you signed up for something at a fabric store and the emails are now being marketed.
Are you looking to buy a new machine? If so, buy the machine with the most metal. And see if the dealer will open one up so you can see the metal inside. Some newer machine are not well built structurally. |
Originally Posted by Prism99
(Post 6904750)
This doesn't make sense to me!
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I have read many posts saying what a good machines Brothers are. I guess I got a dud. My mother in law bought me one about 22 yrs ago, probably from Wal-Mart or Hancocks, I'm not sure, but that machine never would work for me. She would fool with it and it would sew for a little bit then the tension would go. I finally got rid of it. I thought from then on that Brother machines were all bad quality. I guess it was just that one.
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If you watch Project Runway, the machines are Brother. Nothing like what you see at the dealers though.
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Most household appliance do the same.
i bought a tiara last year went to pick up extra bobbins and the lady told me Phaff as the same machine I said whaaaaaa, I don't like phaff , I have a Sewing machine that as given me nuttin but heartache, she said really , I said yes really, she said I've never heard a bad thing about Phaff, I said U did when I brought it here to be fixed and U offered me 300$ for my $2000 machine that needs fixing after every quilt. She said oh! Paid for my bobbins and out the door I went. sorry for ranting still peeved with the Phaff. |
Originally Posted by Onebyone
(Post 6905738)
I copied and pasted and the spacing was off when it went to the post format. You actually thought I'd take the time to change font and color and format for the post? That proofreader's job is safe.
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Originally Posted by Onebyone
(Post 6904736)
I received an email from an online dealer. This was part of the email:
Brother makes machines by other names. When you are deciding between 2 machines with different names made by theBrother company,BUY Brother- there is no other. My guess is that it's a scam & that's why the English is so messed up. Even if it were true that Brother branded machines were identical to some generic name, Brother is not going to tell you that. It would be counterproductive. Beyond that, there are usually legalities that mean that even though 2 products are made by the same company, the company does not provide the same level of support for both. In addition, they usually create a separate legal entity for the non-branded product so that if a consumer sues, the well-known Brand (company) is not liable. Instead, the no-name company with limited assets is and it may not even be legal to bring it up in court that the 2 companies are related. For those reasons, and more, if it is a major purchase, I usually will buy from a reputable dealer by a reputable manufacturer. I know that a large, established company like Viking, Brother or Singer is going to stand by their product and if something is really defective, they will repair or replace it without issue. Sewing machines are so expensive, I would hate to find out that I couldn't get parts, service or replacements on my machine after spending so much money (even if it did save me $100 at point-of-purchase). But that's just my take on it. ;) |
Originally Posted by Sunlover53
(Post 6905179)
I found this article by someone who did a lot of research on sewing machines. The title explains a lot. Very extensive if you have the time to read it all. This was written in 2007 but I'm sure a lot of this article is very true.
http://www.evidently.org/2007/02/too-much-information/ |
Each machine maker now does several. My son worked for a sewing machine dealer who sold both Brother and Babylock and he said Brother made the Brother brand
just a little bit different and better to sell their brand. |
Originally Posted by Onebyone
(Post 6906136)
If you watch Project Runway, the machines are Brother. Nothing like what you see at the dealers though.
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Brother makes Babylock. They add a few extras to charge a little more. There are no differences in the structure of the upper end Brothers and the Babylocks. Brother does not make many lower end Babylocks if you notice. Babylocks are for dealers. Some dealers only carry Brother and some only carry Babylock.
I was told this when I questioned Brother. It scatters their product among more dealers. |
I love the brother machines, I wore one out. Never had to have repairs.
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While shopping for a new embroidery machine I was told that PFAFF is soon going to not be able to support their product in the US. That is because they've been bought by a Chinese company or at least will be manufactured in China. I was also told that Bernina is the only one still manufactured in Europe by the original company. I know several people who have purchased a Brother machine at Costco. I know they are not top of the line but thy are very functional and quite versatile for just regular sewing and piecing.
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Odd email...
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Originally Posted by Gay
(Post 6904890)
I've been told that Brother also make Janome machines.
Cari |
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