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sunnycat 08-08-2010 12:57 PM

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I'm making my first quilt, a pinwheel table topper. I've finished the pinwheel blocks, and some are larger than others. Some of the blocks are larger at the bottom than the top, or vice versa, as well. Some of it is due to imperfect cuts, some to imperfect seams. It's all fractions of inches. Should I cut the blocks so that they're all the same size before sewing them together, or just go with it? I'm worried that at a certain point, I will wind up with an irreversibly not-square quilt. Thanks.

Also, if need be, I can post a pic of what I'm working on.

The first pic is of the overall project. I'm not decided on the color order, yet, but this gives you an idea. The yellow block in the middle needs to be completely redone for the start.

The second pic shows a block that isn't square. The top row is wider.

texas granny 08-08-2010 01:00 PM

Sunny you should square up your blocks get a square ruller close to the size your finished size should be
If your pinwheels are way off you might want to redo them.

kwiltkrazy 08-08-2010 01:06 PM

Love to have you post a picture. i would square them off before sewing them together, or you will end up with an unmatching mess.

cjomomma 08-08-2010 01:08 PM

Throw them away and start over. I am just kidding. Square them up. If you don't then the quilt will be wonky, not square at all.

kwiltkrazy 08-08-2010 01:19 PM

Looks like you are doing pretty good, seems there may be a variation in your seams. Be sure you square them off from the middle, not just squared around the outside.

Deecee 08-08-2010 01:20 PM

Its best to square as you go or else the problem grows with the quilt. Re-do any blocks that you are not really happy with now or you won't ever be happy with the finished quilt.

Up North 08-08-2010 01:20 PM

You are not going to loose any points by squaring these up so that is what I would do.

janRN 08-08-2010 01:55 PM

Are you pressing the seams as you go, before adding the next section of the block? Looks like some of your seams aren't flat and this can make them uneven. I'd try pressing them and then square them up to the same size. You really matched up the centers nicely-that's where I run into trouble. I also like your color choices.

lindyline 08-08-2010 01:57 PM

All of the above, an press, press, press the seams.This is not the hobby?(wrong word?) for anyone who's not friendly withtheir iron.

pocoellie 08-08-2010 02:03 PM

Whenever working with bias edges, make sure your fabrics are starched stiff, the stiffer the better. It will make the bias "behave" better and when pressing will hold the press better. How did you make them-by putting 2 squares together, then sewing diagonally or did you cut the squares, cut diagonally, then sew? All good advice offered on here, I think.

But, I do think you did a pretty good job, regardless.

sunnycat 08-08-2010 02:05 PM

Thanks for the advice. I'll square them up. I have been pressing as I go with each step (assembly line style), but haven't given them their final block press.

BellaBoo 08-08-2010 02:06 PM

Pinwheels are forgiving when squaring up. You can cut them all the same size and not loose any of the pattern. The goal of a pinwheel block is getting no cut off points in the middle. I press my seams open when making pinwheel blocks.

QuiltMania 08-08-2010 02:08 PM

Square them up. It will save frustration (and cussing) later.

sunnycat 08-08-2010 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by pocoellie
Whenever working with bias edges, make sure your fabrics are starched stiff, the stiffer the better. It will make the bias "behave" better and when pressing will hold the press better. How did you make them-by putting 2 squares together, then sewing diagonally or did you cut the squares, cut diagonally, then sew? All good advice offered on here, I think.

But, I do think you did a pretty good job, regardless.

I put 2 squares together, then sewed diagonally.

My fabrics weren't stiff at all. Part of my problem is that the muslin kept shifting and stretching while I was tracing the template shape.

cherylynne 08-08-2010 02:12 PM

You have a good start, but I would rip out the seams that have unmatched points and redo them. You will be happier with your finished product.

wvdek 08-08-2010 02:14 PM

Wait until you have all your blocks made, measure them all, take the smallest one and square up the rest to match that one.

Janie Q 08-08-2010 02:17 PM

They should square up nicely. The problem I had in making pinwheels is that I tend to let my seams get smaller at the end of the piece I'm sewing together. This will really mess up the pinwheel block in the center when you put it together. You might want to check and make sure your seams are consistent all the way across. Your colors are really pretty. The quilt is gonna turn out nice.

pocoellie 08-08-2010 02:23 PM

Are you using a ruler or a template? Are you using scissors or a rotary cutter? If you're using a template, I would see if I couldn't buy a ruler as soon as possible. If you're using scissors, I would also try to get a cutter as soon as possible, and of course, if you don't have a mat, you'll need one of those. Get the biggest one you can afford. Sometimes you can find these things at yard sales or thrift stores too.

For starching I use the concentrated starch, dilute 50/50 and spray it on pretty good, then I let it "soak" for at least 2 hours, then either air dry or put it in the dryer for a few minutes, then I iron. Starching will help tremendously, I believe.

quiltinghere 08-08-2010 02:39 PM

Quilting is PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE...

If it bothers you much, practice taking them apart and practice sewing together again. If they're cut incorrectly, practice cutting accurately again.

At least that's what I did to learn how to piece accurately.

raptureready 08-09-2010 03:12 AM

Find your smallest block and square them all up to that size. It doesn't matter if the pattern said that they are all to be 12 1/2 and your's come out (once squared up) 11 1/2 it will just make the end result a little smaller. As long as they're square it will be okay.

p.s. I think pinwheels or any other block with diagonal seams is harder to get to come out right than if you're using square pieces.

cinjosie 08-09-2010 04:14 AM

Be careful when you press half square triangles --- always press with the grain ---- not pulling out on the bias - it will distort your block.

quiltin mimi 08-09-2010 04:21 AM

This is much better than my first attempt. I didn't have this board then, or I would have improved much faster.

I finally figured out that my 1/4 inch was not always the same. It might have been off only a smidge, but that was enough for my blocks to be not all the same. I now have a quilting foot with a little flange on the side that measures exactly 1/4 inch. It changed my quilting life! :-)

You are doing a great job.

nativetexan 08-09-2010 04:58 AM

square using the 45 degree line on ruler and centering the ruler. then starch them before going further.

dotski 08-09-2010 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by kwiltkrazy
Looks like you are doing pretty good, seems there may be a variation in your seams. Be sure you square them off from the middle, not just squared around the outside.

can you explain how u square from the center ? thanks

dls 08-09-2010 06:09 AM

I would suggest measuring your seams and making sure you have an accurate 1/4 inch seam on the ones that are not the correct size. Rip the incorrect seams out and resew. It may seem like a lot of work but when the project is finished you will be glad you did it correctly

Holice 08-09-2010 06:49 AM

next time when you trace and mark, put very fine sand paper on table. this will prevent the fabric from slipping.
Also. Measure the smallest square and use that as your squaring piece. You might cut paper that size and then recut the rest to match. I would not go with what the blocks should have been. the squares can be any size and still work. When you make your square and in placement, make sure the points of the square line up with your diagonal seam lines. They will then fit.

Bluphrog 08-09-2010 07:03 AM

There is a Quilt As You Go ruler to square up HSTs, and I love it. I got mine at JoAnn's with a 50% coupon.

libertykm 08-09-2010 07:42 AM

What is a quilt as you go ruler.

MillieH 08-09-2010 07:55 AM

Square them up. Even Eleanor Barnes has this problem, and she just squares them up before joining them together.

Candace 08-09-2010 08:05 AM

Every project is a learning experience. Sew buttons on the centers in wild colors. No one will see the points :>

craftiladi 08-09-2010 08:15 AM

Ok at the chance of sounding like a total beginner I am going to ask this question...everyone suggested finding her smallest block and using those measurements for squaring up the rest of the blocks,,,,,ok assuming the rest of the blocks are the right size why wouldn't you just redo the smallest one?
Mimi thank-you for posting I learn from all of you that are braver then I.

Bluphrog 08-09-2010 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by libertykm
What is a quilt as you go ruler.

I'm sorry, it's not a quilt as you go, it's one of Eleanor Burns' rulers specifically made for squaring HSTs.

I guess my fingers were typing faster than my brain was thinking.

catrancher 08-09-2010 08:53 AM

Definitely square them up. Pinwheels are a hard place to start. I was quilting over a year before I could get them to match up. Don't get discouraged. Practice, practice, practice. Fortunately, practicing quilting is fun.

Ardelle Coult 08-09-2010 08:56 AM

After years of frustration I bought a Eleanor Burns square up ruler - ahh, end of problem. Who says they have to be a certain size -- oops, I forgot all about the Quilt Police.

libertykm 08-09-2010 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Bluphrog

Originally Posted by libertykm
What is a quilt as you go ruler.

I'm sorry, it's not a quilt as you go, it's one of Eleanor Burns' rulers specifically made for squaring HSTs.

I guess my fingers were typing faster than my brain was thinking.

I looked it up on google and all I find is flying geese rulers and fussy cut rulers.

Bluphrog 08-09-2010 09:13 AM

go to www.quiltinaday.com; choose Shop Online; choose Rulers & Templates, then scroll down to 6 1/2 Triangle Square Up Ruler by Quilt in a Day.

If your HSTs are larger than 6 1/2", there's also a 9 1/2" Square Up Ruler.

cc 08-09-2010 10:41 AM

How do you square off from the middle?

Janette 08-09-2010 10:49 AM

Instead of tracing templates and cutting, invest in a rotary cutter and cutting mat as soon as you can. You don't run the risk of stretching the fabric as you trace around your template, plus, if your pencil isn't sharp you will have a thicker line to cut through and end up with shapes of different sizes. Also, when you press, especially on the bias, make sure you are using a dry iron. Steam will stretch your bias seams.

klgreene 08-09-2010 11:31 AM

I would square them up, for what you have done, then make pinwheels by taking two fabrics face to face, the size of the square you want, sew 1/4 completely around all four sides. Then cut corner to corner on the diagonal. then take that 1/2 triangle and cut it corner to middle of the long edge. It's so easy, I just hope I explained it so you can understand. I'm planning on doing a pin wheel soon, but have so many others I have to get done first.

libertykm 08-09-2010 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Bluphrog
go to www.quiltinaday.com; choose Shop Online; choose Rulers & Templates, then scroll down to 6 1/2 Triangle Square Up Ruler by Quilt in a Day.

If your HSTs are larger than 6 1/2", there's also a 9 1/2" Square Up Ruler.

Thank you very much


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