I fell in love with a quilt at a show recently so I went on line to buy the pattern. "Stars of Grace". Found it on ebay, my son did so I told him to order it for me. Well it came today. 3 pages torn out of a McCalls quilting magazine and he paid $8.25 including shipping. That is so sad. If I had known it was a McCalls pattern I could have ordered the magazine for less than $8.25. Sorry, but things like this do not sit well with me. Grrrrrr!

I hope you sent it back and raise a big fuss. Send a conplaint to Ebay on the seller

It doesn't sit well with me either, but it is legal. I think ebay should require that they state it is from a mag.

I can see why you're disgruntled! And the postage on three pages would definitely not be $8.25!

Sorry to hear you had a bad ebay experience. I have to wonder how McCall's quilting magazine feels about this. It doesn't seem right that someone should make money by selling individual pages of the magazine.

That's horrible. Complain to ebay!

we have already covered this topic thoroughly.

it's legal.

buyers need to read all the way through the description.

if they didn't state it was pages from a magazine, you can leave "not as advertised/described" in the feedback.

I just don't know how this could be legal.

FYI: You can request cheaper shipping if you think it is too high. I ask before I bid.

I did buy one of these "patterns" but my seller stated up front that was what it was. I didn't have the magazine and wanted the pattern so I went ahead and bought. Not my favorite thing to do.

Did the seller identify the source of the pattern in his posting? If he did not, I would ask for money to be refunded due to "not as described" complaint.

I think that is rude, crude, and ill mannered.

Buyers should always read the fine print.

Candace, sorry I am asking this but what is the pattern of your avatar? I would like to buy one.
thanks

Here is the post for the avatar pattern.
http://www.quiltingboard.com/t-48787-1.htm

I would complain too and i dont' see how it's legal to sell pages out of a magazine. you are making a profit off a designer. what's the difference in selling a quilt made from a designer's pattern and not asking first??

Thank you all so much for hearing me out. I emailed the person and let her know, very nicely, that I was more than unhappy about the matter. She is a widowed woman who makes her living this way. She researched it and found it was legal. So she picks what she feels will be good sellers and puts them up on Ebay. This one did say, in very small print, that my son didn't even notice, the pattern was from a magazine. However, reading it that way, I still would not have made the connection that it was 3 pages torn from a magazine. She was kind and I am now educated.

I have purchase patterns on eBay sold this way. It did state what it was in the description, but I only paid 99 cents for them. That particular seller had a lot of them listed. Shipping was reasonable. They were neatly cut out and in a plastic sleeve. I didn't mind because I wouldn't have gotten the magazine and with quilt patterns costing upwards of $10 I thought it was an OK deal.
As for absurd shipping charges, this is often the profit margin for eBay sellers. I was recently looking at a pattern on eBay at a really great price. Surprised to see no bids on it at the last few minutes. Then I spotted the $8 shipping. Not saying it is right, but it's the buyers responsibility to check out the fine (and not so fine) print.

The one I purchased did not say it was from a mag, but I think things have tightened up lately on the descriptions.

If you can't sell the complete pattern from a magazine, then we can't re-sell our quilt books either.

Leave feedback saying the pattern was pages from a magazine so be aware. You can say the truth in feedbacks.

Sorry to hear. Even if it is legal I would feel ripped off.

I did not know any of this. Good to learn. Thanks for sharing.

legal or not, i think it's wicked

Really you should put Negative feedback on the seller and also send info to Ebay I would send it back and insist upon a full refund.

I would have been livid! I recently got a pattern from Ebay that was also from a magazine but it was reproduced (I think) and was only $1.25 so I guess I did well.

I paid a lot less for a similar pattern and thought it odd but I wanted the pattern and the price was good...As for the legality, it seems to me that if you own something--whether it's a car or a magazine--you should have resell rights. My first thought at reading your note was, "What a nice son to be so helpful!" Guess that's at least a bright side...

You do have resell rights if you purchased the item to begin with. What is being complained about is taking the original and reproducing it in whatever fashion to make money on more than the original copy as I understand it.

Of course friends share things also. I don't see any fault in doing that.

1. the legal owner of a magazine may legally sell the original magazine in whole or part.

2. nobody can sell copies of those pages without written consent from the publisher.

3. if the ebay seller states in the description that it's pages from a magazine they are not doing anything illegal or unethical.

read the descriptions.

The ebay seller that I dealt with stated that the pages were from a magzine so I guess it was legal.

I've bought the patterns that were pages from the magazines, but they have said so in the description. Also I usually pay $.99 plus $1.99 postage. The vendor I bought from did not combine shipping so you pay for shipping for each item even if they ship together.

When you buy from E-bay, always make sure that you scroll down to find more information on the particualar item you are purchasing. If it was not stated that it was from a magazine then give them a bad rating and state why. These sellers depend on having high ratings in order for others to purchase from them.

You need to file a complaint. If you used paypal start there

There are people who do things like this every where you go. It's sad that so many have this kind of mind set.

there are no grounds for a complaint. she would lose.

to repeat: it's legal

the seller advertised it accurately

sorry for your mishap...but i am not sorry for anybody that buys from ebay,,,have heard too many horror stories..people just think they can get away with anything..but they are not going to get me///

I have seen quite a few patterns listed on eBay that say they are pages from a magazine. Have him go back and read the listing, they may have told him, and he missed it.

Candace...sometime the "fine print" is not there. I bought a ream of HP paper, and seller asked if I could come to his apartment in Louisville, KY to pick it up. I live in Florida :thumbdown:

Also, sellers don't always list the amount of fabric, and I'm so new I don't know how to find out, does anyone?

send it back and complain to ebay.

...and to McCall.

I've made hundreds of eBay purchases over a several year span of time and have had few problems. Three of my purchases were patterns from magazines in protective plastic sleeves. The descriptions did state that was what was being sold. These sound like the same deal as The Cat's Bell told about. For what I paid, I'm happy with the patterns. The seller pays eBay a listing fee, another fee when the item is sold, a PayPal fee, furnishes mailing materials (manilla envelope or whatever), and may have to drive to the post office to mail the package. This doesn't even count the seller's time. Most eBay sellers are honest, friendly, and helpful.